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Davidtcf
post Jan 1 2022, 11:30 AM

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Sold one stock yesterday and end up my account had - negative value.

Then support replied me I’m using cash account only, need wait for the sales to settle first in 2 days before can use the cash. Amount will appear as “Settled Cash”.

First time selling experience this. Could be the buyer using some sort of offline platform.

Just fyi for you in case you’d experience this later.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Jan 2 2022, 10:28 PM
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post Jan 4 2022, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 3 2022, 04:41 PM)
My friends’ account got frozen for certain time for violating this as well.

P/s anyone knows how u can get an offshore bank account, let’s say an US bank account opened under my own name.
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So means my account now frozen for 90 days? They got tell me about this when I ask but I’m not sure if they are referring to my account :

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Initial Description: Why is my account balance negative after selling a stock?
Response from IBCS at 03-Jan-2022

Dear Mr. XXX,

Thank you for reaching out.

You have a Cash account, therefore, you can trade as long as you have funds settled in your account or when the settlement date of the closing trade coincides with the settlement date of the trade you want to open.

Every time you execute a closing of positions, you must wait (T + 2) for the day of the operation plus 2 business days for the funds to be settled in your account. (T + 2) applies to stocks, ETFs, ADRs, corporate bonds, municipal bonds, CFDs, and ITU and mutual investment funds. For other products such as options, futures or options on futures the settlement or settlement is (T + 1).

A Broker can have rules that are more restrictive than required by regulators. IBKR's implementation of the free riding rule uses an end of day check to see if a position was closed prior to its opening trade settlement date. This IBKR end of day surveillance would still consider closing a position before settlement a Free Riding violation and automatically puts the account into "Cash Up Front" restriction (only SETTLED cash allowed) for the next 90 days. Your cash account is restricted to only use SETTLED cash.

Please visit the link below for more information about the Free Riding Rule:
https://ibkr.info/article/3101

If you need further assistance, please let me know.

Best regards,
Gabriel C.
IBKR Trade Desk


From what I gather it means account can be frozen if buy a stock didn’t wait for it to settle, then proceed to sell?

In my case I’m selling (I bought and hold for some time), so now just waiting 2 days to be over to get settled cash. Last Friday sold now is Tuesday. Currently no more negative but the amount is sitting on Cash+ but not appearing in Settled Cash amount yet.

Will update again on status.

edit: so I think I kena this free riding violation thing after reading closely. I admit I got do a trade or two earlier after sell, immediately buy again when able to.. so guess the system picked my habit up and now froze it forcing me to wait for settled cash.

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Davidtcf
post Jan 4 2022, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jan 4 2022, 04:44 PM)
Careful of day trade pattern too, 5 days account freeze if flagged. No problem if u have 25k usd and above.

It might arise from your stoploss as well..

I kena twice and it was miserable
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my account back to normal - the stock I sold back to my account.

yeah after sell best wait 2 days before use that money to trade again.
Davidtcf
post Jan 5 2022, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jan 5 2022, 04:01 PM)
Anyone here will consider switching to Syfe Trade after they have launched?

https://www.syfe.com/trade

looks tempting
1) Five free trades, every month, USD 0.99 per trade thereafter
2) Fractional trading
3) SIPC protected
4) Real-time stock quotes
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sounds good.. curious to know what is the rate of converting to USD for their trades.
Davidtcf
post Jan 15 2022, 05:46 PM

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Rakuten trade will be available to buy US stocks at end of this month. Ziet Invest just made a video:



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Davidtcf
post Jan 16 2022, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jan 16 2022, 03:59 PM)
Hey all, newbie here, appreciate some help here.

I just set up my IBKR for the first time and want to use the ACH method through Transfer Wise but after I click through the option in IBKR to transfer via ACH, it requires me to verify my bank account using their auto verification. After I clicked through that, it gave me a list of US banks (need to login to verify). Wise is not on the list obviously.

Watching Ziet's video, it goes straight to direct debit confirmation signature which is not what I got. So yeah, just wondering how I can set this up.

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Make sure you press on "deposit funds" and not something else. Then at ach transfer there click on "get instructions". I just tested doing so no issue similar to ziet video.
Davidtcf
post Jan 26 2022, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(Toku @ Jan 26 2022, 01:55 PM)
Hi TOS,

I'm new here. happened to see your posts and learned a lot. I have questions on how to select different exchange during your order. I can't find any place where I can change the exchange - EBS for swiss stock. Even when I try to find ROGz symbol which is the symbol for BAT / CHI, it returns nothing.

By the way, on the other thread you mentioned about the wise transfer issue (AMLA). I happened to transfer using Wise using MYR to CHF directly into IBKR without issues. The receipt is showing the name : TransferWise Ltd on behalf of xxxxx. So I guess IBKR will see my name from Wise. There should be no issue but I safekeep the receipt just in case.

Another question, when you set dividend reinvestment, does it apply to all stocks you hold or you can select which stock to have dividend reinvestment enabled?

Besides, where to you submit the form to stamp (Malaysia govt which department) to claim witholding tax from Swiss govt? The swiss tax on dividend is 35% I wonder how many % we can claim back?

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You can't claim withholding tax from another country.. only can do so if you're a citizen of that country. Same like Malaysians how we file income tax and claim back those extra paid %.

This applies to US stocks as well with 30% withholding tax for dividends.
Davidtcf
post Feb 5 2022, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Feb 4 2022, 08:36 PM)
Any recommended USD accumulating European ETF that is equivalent to QQQ?

Based on what I've found, CNX1 seems to fit the bill but it seems to be in GBP instead of USD
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For Irish domiciled accumulating is CNDX. But Ziet recommend QQQ. Can watch more here:



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post Feb 8 2022, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(Toku @ Feb 7 2022, 06:32 PM)
Money in your hand is always better. Your allocation at the right time and right place is much better than just blindly top up at every dividend distribution.
And the estate tax avoidance is good for long term investor. US estate tax will apply for any amount >$60k in any US assets (the bar is low). That is why most of the ETF are Ireland domiciled.
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agree, I went and bought some SG REITs right after 2nd day of CNY, then suddenly prices drop like few %. If know earlier would have waited then come in to buy. Sometimes holding for a few days is better.. especially right after 2 days CNY holiday break at the SG stock market.

Morning and evenings are bad times to buy, as that's when many desperate buyers. If sell then it is good time. Middle of the month usually market will cool down also, as people wait for their next salary/income to invest.. most are broke that time.

Next drop for US likely in March this year, as Fed already hinted they might increase interest rates once again. Now stocks are not rallying yet as many are still in red. Good time if you want to accumulate stocks at discount.. but nobody know if they will drop further. Feds might increase multiple times interest rates just to combat inflation @US. What happens in US will affect the rest of the world's stock market.

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post Feb 9 2022, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(premier239 @ Feb 9 2022, 11:40 AM)
do u guys have experience buy/sell fractional shares?

are they liquid enough?

my concern is to buy big share like google, as 1 share is almost $3k

say to q buy for 0.1/fractional share of this type of "popular" stock, hows the experience?

also, to make it "liquid", better is to accumulate them till it become 1 share unit right?

then i can q at non-fractional listing?
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wait for Google to split in July 2022 if wanna buy it cheap. It will split 20 meaning 3k/20 = 150USD per stock.

easier to buy and sell whole stocks.. I wouldn't buy fractional also due to this.
Davidtcf
post Feb 10 2022, 08:27 PM

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If anyone got RM12k to spare, now is a good time to buy Alphabet stocks. Price keep rising ever since they announce 20-1 stock split this coming July.

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post Feb 10 2022, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Feb 10 2022, 08:27 PM)
If anyone got RM12k to spare, now is a good time to buy Alphabet stocks. Price keep rising ever since they announce 20-1 stock split this coming July.
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Guess not. Stocks dropped 40 points at today’s opening.

Unpredictable market now.
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post Feb 11 2022, 12:21 AM

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I’m actually interested in China.. knowing how much they are growing. Problem is with Xi Ji Ping a CCP hawk supporting old ways of China dealing with the world - via supremacy and closing up China further.

Examples are : how he threaten war with Taiwan
Banning of crypto in China overnight
How he pissed off western countries
Controlling children and teenager gaming hours down to 1-2 hours a day.
Seizing islands on South China Sea and strengthening his grip on them.
Earlier going to war with India at their borders. After India started banning China products and games only they retreated.
Fining Alibaba after founder Jack Ma uttered some things in a public speech that CCP doesn’t wish to hear.
Not sure what else he will unleash on China or the world.

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post Feb 11 2022, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Feb 11 2022, 10:37 AM)
big brother usa likes to sanction anyone any company that threatens their self-interests... look at huawei, zte, tiktok, alibaba, tencent, etc...

nothing to do with investors... everything bout politics and foreign policies...
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can't blame US also.. maybe they have classified information, such as how Huawei is alleged to be able to spy on behalf of big bro China.

China well known with their espionage. You can't blame western countries to take counter measures if they have proof of it going on.
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post Feb 16 2022, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(mangoes4life @ Feb 12 2022, 02:13 PM)
Hello all, newbie here.

I've just started dipping my toes into the investing world. I have no one irl to refer to on whether my understandings are correct, hope fellow sifus can help with my dumb questions notworthy.gif

I am aware that investing in Ireland-domiciled ETF can save 15% tax compared to USA. But US allows to buy in fraction which is ideal for me currently, as I want to start slowly with my extra cash in hand  tongue.gif

Yes can save 15% dividend tax if buy irish domiciled ETFs. That's what most of us here are doing. Selling fractional shares is tough harder to get your asking price. Buying whole shares is better.

If buy US stocks will make more sense to get stocks that are not dividend focus. Hence why for Malaysian to get US REIT stock does not make sense. If you want to buy REITs go for Singapore exchange no tax on dividends. Why people still buy US stocks then? Coz higher growth and potential to earn more when you focus buy on one stock. Do note higher risk if do this you need to monitor the company performance since no ETF fund manager to help you to rebalance.

For expensive stocks like Tesla or Amazon.. Then ok to buy fractional. But imo better to wait for their stock split like what is happening to Alphabet stock this coming July 20-1 stock split. Once done split price will drop to 100+ usd a share.. Existing stockholders will get number of shares equal to old price if they bought at current high. Read up history of Amazon and Tesla splitting their stocks last time to reduce stock price. Why? Make it more affordable for retail investors like you and me. As said most ppl prefer buying whole stocks.


1. Say I invest in a US ETFs, I will receive dividends back into my account. And this dividend will be charged a 30% tax. Other than that is there any other fees/tax that will be charged later on? And is the situation the same if I buy (fraction) shares from a single company like Tesla?

Yes before you get your dividend already the withholding tax "eat" it already.. What you get is after tax. Do note that accumulating ETF also get taxed on their dividends even when it get reinvested back to the ETF. Fees for US stocks or ETF is cheaper for IBKR at 0.35 cents usd - make sure change your pricing to Tiered pricing at account settings. Default is fixed pricing which is higher. For Irish domiciled since based in London, price is 1+usd. You can check this at IBKR website on fees for London Stock Exchange

2. Does accumulating means I will be buying more shares with the dividends? and I profit through selling these shares?

Means it rolls back the dividend into the ETF price. Hence why usually accumulating type ETFs has a higher price if compare to distributing type (provided they both started selling at same price for you to compare).

3. What about accumulating ETFs on LSE? As far as I know there's no fractional shares option on LSE? Then where will the accumulation go?

Accumulating will go back to the stock. So you don't have to worry about reinvesting the dividend. Like this you will see the ETF grow more in same period as well. If you go for distributing then you'll keep see few dollars being sent to your IBKR account every few months. Need to wait it accumulate a lot before worth withdrawing or reinvest.

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Agree with what others say here also.. Keep a pile of money before investing.. RM4-5k is a nice figure. Can save up higher also if you wish. Since after convert become USD1k+ only. While saving can put into MMF funds like Versa so can withdraw anytime and fast.

Sometimes I can't wait just transfer RM2k+ over to IBKR. But I invest long term la. However keep doing this also not a good practice since I'm paying more fees to IBKR per trasaction overall.

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post Feb 19 2022, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 18 2022, 04:11 PM)
following ziet's way to fund tru wise transfer
but i'm stuck @ this page; lack info on bank's details and add

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Basically just fill in the routing and account number at Wise.

As below how I fill in.

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Reference is your account number at IBKR, account number is also unique to you, then routing just follow.
In your screenshot got the details liao if u notice. I notice the address is missing now after choosing in IBKR.. But should be allright if use Ziet address. They likely remove it from the website maybe is extra info only. Most important acc number routing etc will able to deposit the money already. So far I send like this all ok.

Account type at Wise choose send to Business/organization, then choose "checking". Address also follow what Ziet mentioned in his video. Pause his video if he too fast till u get it.

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For Wise to IBKR transfer make sure u keep all your receipt. Because the fund is coming from 3rd party which is Wise. Got ppl kena audit from IBKR before where they ask him where the fund came from and show proof is his own money. If transfer from CIMB SG to IBKR then no need worry.

I use Wise to IBKR also coz easier. I keep all my receipts: maybank to Wise, Wise to IBKR in my Dropbox folder so phone also can access.

Once u succeed do this once.. Can repeat same transfer again by saving it in Wise for next time.. So don't have to retype all over again. After first transfer u will confident liao. First time only hard, later is easy peasy.

If you scare, transfer small amount like few bucks first. Once confirm went through then transfer bigger amount. Will need +1 biz day before IBKR will update your account for fund receive.

In IBKR setting make sure change fee rate to Tiered instead of Fixed. Default is Fixed rate which is more expensive for most of us.

This post has been edited by Davidtcf: Feb 19 2022, 01:38 AM
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post Mar 4 2022, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Mar 3 2022, 07:47 PM)
Ibkr is just teasing me now for 2 weeks with email stating we have lots of account to check and ibkr prioritize funded account 😂

Unless approved I am not so sure to fund it yet 👀

Wonder how long does it take to get approved though
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Welcome to the IBKR club 👍👏

I like to see lots of greens in the US market. Easy to the moon. This year abit special due to interest rate hike and Ukraine war. But if u come in now really right time lar.. All US stocks and ETFs at a nice discount!

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post Mar 9 2022, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Mar 8 2022, 01:30 PM)
How much did you save?

The banker called me and emphasize need to direct transfer from CIMB instead of wise..
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yeah, but the money will still go through to CIMB SG bank if use Wise. Can check Ziet Invest youtube video on this topic.
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post Mar 21 2022, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(stickymud @ Mar 21 2022, 05:42 PM)
Hello I am a complete newbie here. Want to try buying stocks in the us. Can anyone tell me where to start? Do I need to submit a form to be able to start trading in foreign countries?
Form like this one:
<a href='https://pictr.com/images/2022/03/21/BCDKN9.md.jpg' target='_blank'>https://pictr.com/images/2022/03/21/BCDKN9.md.jpg </a>
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Check Ziet Invest YouTube videos on the subject IBKR. Use Wise to fund it.

Get a referral code when sign up for some freebies.
Davidtcf
post Mar 23 2022, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(clovercliff @ Mar 23 2022, 03:48 PM)
anyone using IBKR?
I just got my new account ready but why they're charging fee when it claim the stock trading is 0% fee?

eg. i try to place an order APPL for $160, and when preview the order it show it need to have $161, which is $1 fee incured.
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you're likely on Fixed fees (default).. change to "tiered" at account settings.

Need to trade very large amounts before fixed fees become cheaper.
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/en/index.php?f=commission

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