Anyone have experience with this model as i search i saw a lot 2014 - 2016 model and selling with reasonable price form 140k - 170k.
OK for that price i'm not sure it's really reasonable for you guys and whether it worth to get it.
My take is the car interior look good and comfortable and i believe the drive sud be very comfortable as all the toyota is.
Also the legroom at the back passenger seat is very good as well...

Don't buy, CVT gearbox of Harrier recond is very fragile, high number of recond Harrier has CVT konk issue.

About RM7-10k to get it repaired, if that is acceptable to you within 3 years you buy the car, then it's ok.

Why not a brand new CX-5 with warranty and free service? The local spec Harrier 2.0T launched by UMW made the recond Harrier look like a con. It's not worth it in my opinion, lacking a lot of spec, turbo engine & no warranty.

However it's your hard earned money. If that's what makes you happy, just go ahead. Forummer usually will give all kind of opinion.

Wah is that bad ??? considering i know that toyota gearbox is reliable all the while...
Anyway thanks for the head-up.....
not acceptable lah if there's the risk ...

Ya ..actually i'm comparing this 2 car now.
I look at the harrier, seem nice and drive good as well..nvr drive it but from my x neighbour before this but since it's x i cant get respond from him again...

Harrier anytime over CX5

You may verify my statement with workshop and service Recon Harrier to find out more. My younger brother car hasn't been perfect despite he got a very new recon unit (body and undercarriage super clean and solid, verified by workshop upon purchase). Still problem hit him RM7k plus with CEL (check engine light) on dashboard now even after the repair.

What make u say this.....mind to share here

I would choose CX5..for me the design is better la

Harrier more gaya and premium vs CX-5.
CX-5 all over the road in Klang Valley.

But with that budget, better get brand new CX-5 for peace of mind.

The harrier 2.0T is very nice, but for the same amount of money I won't buy the recon harrier non turbo over the CX-5. The CX-5 engine and transmission is more advanced than N/A harrier.

Looks are subjective. I love the CX-5

Kind of agree with you but what i love about the harrier is the interior especially the back seat...comfortable and lots of legroom.
If we pit against 2.0NA and cx-5, both have their pro and con...that's why i'm pondering on this option..
i bet the safer way sud just go for the brand new cx 5 right ??

CX-5 2.5Turbo all the way. no regret!

The feeling of taking delivery of a new car with all the plastic wrapper still intact & new car smell. It's priceless!

Not to mention full 5 year warranty and service from Bermaz! This is a proper premium ownership experience.

This post has been edited by budang: Oct 2 2019, 10:01 AM

Yaya...the 5+5 is really great...
taking delivery of new car..it's been a while
Waiting for the time to check it out the new refresh CX 5

Question is are you driving or are you seated behind? CX-5 isn't uncomfortable in the rear. Just less space when compared to the Harrier. Then you have to ask yourself how often % you have passengers? And is it really *bad* or just *not as good*?

Brand new car is better because you have the warranty. Plus it's new. For the same price, both 2.0L, both same segment, 1 new and 1 recon and a few years old, I'd pick the new car.

Go for CX-5 2019. Better design

I'm driving it but ya ..i will always fetch my two 'King's around with the queen seated beside me...not to the extend of 'bad' i can say...ya not as good is the right words...
I always pay attention to the rear passenger seat when choosing my ride...
And the main reason i ignore the Subaru Forester is beside the outlook, the rear seat thigh support is very noticeable short although the legroom is great..
Ya...Brand new car wit warranty is a very great pushing point...

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.....
Both look great for me actually...

Agree. Still something within your budget

Regularly ride in my ex boss recond harrier.

Very nice and comfy. Every weekend he travel kl - johor.

Owned for 3 years, never heard he said had any breakdown

It's a Toyota bruh. But recon don't have new car smell... lol. And no warranty. Wear and tear items like absorbers, bushings, you're on your own.

Agree. Ya without warranty actually = higher ownership cost = higher price lor...

This price? Better get Fortuner brand new, peace of mind.

Fortuner vs harrier - the comfort level is comparable ???

More comfort & more space. If harrier better off with sedan, so-so only.

recon now come with basic parts warranty and also optional Full warranty which can buy now
not expensive though
still cheaper than u send your car back to service center.
my first service recon nx200t just rm380 , perhap new myvi when send back to SC more expensive than mine.
imagine if send back to lexus ?

Roughly how much is the full warranty cost you for your nx ??

recon car normaly dealer will buy basic coverage parts warranty either 1 year or more depends on dealer , the coverage parts are steering rack , engine and gearbox .
if u need to upgrade to pro warranty then u need to let the warranty company know before the car delivery to u.
the price is subject to car model.
lexus around rm3000 per year for pro warranty
if basic warranty round rm1500 per year

This post has been edited by danielisme: Oct 3 2019, 03:24 PM

Ohh...so in your case if something equivalent to 5 years , its cost ard RM15K. Maybe the price diff of the recon unit compare to brand new is worth to pay this 15K

harrier still a reliable car . car like wish , estima and 8 seater mpv maybe have to caution the condition because it may use for ferry workers and used as taxi in japan
no one brand car is 100% problem free.
u can visit to sc , mazda , toyota , honda, VW, Merz .
still got some new car have manfacturer defects .

This post has been edited by danielisme: Oct 3 2019, 03:35 PM

but i dint upgrade the warranty !
if bmw , mini copper then better extend the warranty la

Ya its true..very much depends on our luck as well unless we're talking about certain French beauty few years back...

Suggest u go test drive both to find out further on ‘comfort level’ difference. Different chassis frame already a clear indicator, not to mention ground clearance and body roll. If comfort is your priority, avoid ladder frame chassis vehicle. Lol.

Ya but if im not mistaken, fortuner is on ladder frame chassis right ?? same like Hilux...if this is the case, i definitely give this car a miss...

harrier if you don't rev high rpm or keep using the sport button the gearbox is fine. if you like sporty drive and like to push the engine then get something else.

our workshop changed so many gearbox for this model already

Wow..so you have a workshop and this is real first hand experience...good advise ..thks
No im not those spirited driver or sport car driver type...ya occasionally when drive alone i did push my car a bit...but generally i'm the type who 'sayang' my car very much..from engine to exterior and interior.
But from what you say, mean this car is prone to gear box failure....

Fortuner is built by ladder frame chassis. If hilux kind of ‘comfort’ is acceptable to u then fortuner is within your scope as fortuner is a notch or two better than hilux but to compare to a Harrier? Sky high difference lol.

Lmao biggest joke of the day fortuner more comfortable than harrier. I’ve been in so many fortuner especially when in Thailand and Indonesia. Seated at the back is like roller coaster, extremely stiff suspension, being tossed around on uneven road, horrible comfort. The seating position is also extremely tall making it almost impossible to get in without the side step. Older people or kids won’t be able to get in with comfort.

Harrier won’t have any of the problems above. The fortuner is just a pick up truck turned SUV. Avoid the fortuner at all cost if comfort is priority.

This post has been edited by budang: Oct 4 2019, 01:21 PM

Some people like roller coaster.

Most don’t need this drama. Especially when going from point A to B

we sell import recon and used cars. our panel workshop done many of this already. 2 of our customers kena. that's out of around 6 units or so. if you drive like normal ok la. if you like to speed then look elsewhere. the sport mode makes it rev high easily, which is really bad for the cvt

Wow..this is a very very honest answer i guess..thanks mate..
Seem like is not wise to take the risk ...or else with this car, really have to test my patient everytime i drive it

Risk vs Reliable

Choose yourself. Once a recond car is sold to a person
They do not care about anything happen to it. Warranty? 1 year of full crap excuses

If you want a ease of mind and warranty. Better stick with new

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my relative act smart even though most of us try to persuade him and he eventually bought a audi tt.

He is that kind of person who do not really listen to people opinions until he experience it. He fork out more than 50k of repairs in cash within 3 years only

Audi already discontinue the vehicle . Probably too many problems

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Oct 5 2019, 10:20 AM

Noted..i'm not a stubborn person for sure...
Ya ya..oso i can safely say that i can't really 'afford' the recon car from what i get from K.
Not goin to throw so much money to maintain a car...50k for 3 yrs i can go for few holidays with my family....

Hi Guys, i've decided to get the cx 5 instead..new car less problem..missus and kids love it..so easier choice..
Thanks for all the input guys.....

is it all cvt cars are exposed to lifespan shortening if the driver always floor the pedal?

Cx5 over harrier IMO harrier na very underpower

CX 5 i oso opt for non turbo...no need so much power...

Which spec did you opt for?

2.5 na..i wanted little bit more power as my current ride is a 2.0 c segment.
Dont need so much so not consider 2.5 T..
A 2.0 T is the best option but sadly not with CX 5

Those recon 2.0 cvt harrier have 2 problem only. Gearbox n aircon. The gearbox is the torque converter pin break. Its a defect affecting the early batch. U can repair the gearbox by replacing the pins cause around 5k. Then it is problem free. The aircon will sometime stuck 1 side blow hot n another side cold. Then u must use computer to reset it.

This is the problem someone mentioned here but 5K to replace the pin..guess i can't afford to maintain this car..
Air con like this, i hate it whenever i encounter aircon problem with my car..think i made a right decision not to go with this car..

Harrier 2.0 Turbo will fulfill your requirements.

But sadly it did not fulfill my pocket..

Good choice. I will go with u on the cx 5. Hassle free for 5 years. If those still wanted a harrier, i suggest go with the turbo harrier. If ur wallet deep enough or wait 2 more years for recon within the wallet reach.

Think CX 5 is good choice..haha
But donno 2.5 na that i choose i really a good one compare to 2.0 or to some extend why not just go for 2.5T....

Exactly,for Early batch of harrier and vellfire with 2015/16 all car 2.5 before 2016 April,will having the torque converter problem,AC Colling coil need to change around 70K km.
CVT gear box for me no problem I drive 2.4 vellfire 2009 brought 2014,until now for normal service and has been change fan motor two unit,price around rm 1K including labour,
Colling coil both side RM 2500 done in same day,break pad,front rotor due to bending Toyota common problem, steering rack never change before,front bumper two times,doe to some minor accident,two HID light bulb brought chop shop RM 200 for tow piece next project going to change whole set of suspension system including many bush and rod, bearing today getting quote rm 3080 only for buying parts.
New drive shaft cover RM 350 original,master cylinder pump buying chop shop RM 500.for my own experience overall it's good if you ask me compare with new car,warranty don't really care about it.last time i brought new car, service booking and spending from early morning 7:30am to waiting until 11am only for oil change.the car brought new still under warranty,some undercarriage parts having problems need to rectify and many excuse send you the quote for 10K they say if you request to change this parts the rest of suspension system need to change only will work effectively,bull shit.i sold off the car and brought this.drive to ah beng shop 30min done for normal oil change save my time.new car under warranty oil change RM 480,recon car service ah Beng shop RM 250.
As for Toyota you can choose buy OEM(fake) or original spare parts.if you don't trust as beng,buy your self at weng hin Toyota.sure ori form Japan. Usually the price has a big gap between original and they called OEM.box looks a like,but quality different.you get what you pay for.
Now got scrut or can ask dealer to send you their auction report,don't trust what they say the report can be altered or fake,cause usually they buying high mileage car cause their cost it's much more cheaper when buying a low grade car.
As I know the tax and excise duty are same if the car has a same manufacturer year and slightly different in different segment and higher engine capacity.
For me I am satisfied with what I buying,cause I can choose slowly and target what I want.if you are regular with certain dealer you can request pre order , browsing your self and see with car you like in Japan used car website and send the link you wish to buy.dealer usually will make 5%or maybe slightly more profit on top of the margin they pay for.
Learning how to inspect the car,buy a Bluetooth ODB reader online cheap. Pay rm 50 for scrut for extra secure report.
At the end you save a lot from UMW new car,and getting some unique spec.as for vellfire the optional home theater system will cause you around 26K when they purchase as a manufacturer option, modellista body kit and others option all paying,I found out Malaysia spec really kiam siap,my friend brought brand new 2018 vellfire comes with 2 LED head light .
Local 4 cam and the tiny head unit localized by Toyota.
Paying RM 350K,I can get a full spec 2018 TRD or modellista
ZG spec with sunroof,moon roof,JBL home theater system,Japan 4 cams, ventilation seat(hot and cold function).
Auto high beam assist,lane keep assistant and many extract,after all its my own opinion,to choose a recon car just like finding a piece of gem in a beach.you may found it if you having experience,many small details usually dealer don't know how to touch up or refurbished.
I learn a lot when I start to survey my next car.
A grade 6AA car it's hard to find,but I saw it unit truly like new car ,the pain and interior I never see in any local used car.brand new,with new car smell mileage only 3K some of them event less, usually dealer will selling slighhagher price.
But if their price it's under the bracket why not?
Don't forget many recon car dealer will bring in repaired car or minor accident unit,or some maybe more worse they buy a low spec car while buying chop shop parts to convert to different spec,many local dealer they installation fake body kit and selling high price.
I usually can tell by just looking their pictures,the colour not match especially white car.new and ageing colour
Just many way to play with the customer,but just remember,don't rush unless you make a final decision to get that unit.do some paper work before purchasing,better then buying a new car just like purchase a uniform.

Wow..good experience and lots of effort you got there...
Maybe i don hav that kind of preserverance and passion to do that

These 2 problems were a big no to many.

Me in the same dilemma now, but slightly different. Currently owned 2013 CX5 2.0.
Dilemma to buy harrier or new CX5 2.0.
My budget is only 150K, so cannot afford higher specs CX5.
Being using CX5 for 6 years now I know the problem I will face at year 5 & 6 of this car. Mazda ori spare parts also expensive. A pair rear absorbers is RM1.5k. After warranty ends, absorbers, aircond, engine mounting, top oil cover head gasket leak, belt tensioner leak... this may cost 7-8K. As a member of CX5 few FB groups, I fully understand their struggles. The free service only use semi synthetic oil, you want fully syn, add a couple of hundreds ringgit more.
At this moment, I’m still researching.
Recond Harrier with 3 years warranty I also found in many adverts.
*added: CX5 waranty is 5yrs or 100k km, normally i will reach 100k km within 3 yrs

This post has been edited by colnago_C64: Jan 11 2020, 08:42 AM

i suggest you check their warranty booklet before done deal . see the coverage part list and who is the warranty company insurance too . normaly dealer provide one the coverage parts are selected only, the common part spoil one they excluded .
rm1.5 for a pair is consider cheap . i think harrier is slighty expensive
i just changed mine rm 5800 front pair

Holy moly.....

You could have sent the absorbers for refurbishment, I think RM250 per pc in Klang valley.

izzit ? got contact ?
mine one with AVS

https://www.facebook.com/SaisokuMotorsports/
https://www.facebook.com/SaisokuMotorsports...23740?__tn__=-R

AVS means adjustable suspension ? Those are not good for users' pocket, expensive to replace yet do not last long. And 90% of the time the user only use comfort setting given Malaysia's road condition. I would suggest to mod the ori suspension to become passive type, and get the ECU bypass to eliminate the error code.

This post has been edited by 4WD_er: Jan 10 2020, 03:35 PM

Adaptive variable suspension . can change ? would it affect the car handling for high speed ? becos the car have drive mode selector which one of it will adjusts a variety of engine, transmission and even suspension settings
got any expert workshop do this kind of modificatiion ?

Denggg... what absorber is that rm5.8k per pair!! I feel you man..

This model sucks, mostly Singaporean use harrier 2.0 gasoline turbo with 6AT gearbox similar stuff like hilux revo gear box.

We are not Singaporean.. lol
I sat in my friend's recond harrier, reasonably spec-ed with adequate power..
He needs a big reliable SUV with a touch of luxury to ferry around his family.. turbo vroom vroom is not his priority..

When ppl said Japan made super reliable cars, it is only Toyota/Lexus comes into my mind, not others.. other manufacturers just ride on the "Japan made" reputation because of Toyota track record..

I read the FB link, it appears that the shop does support the refurbishment of adaptive dampers too.

interesting , mind share the link ?

https://www.facebook.com/SaisokuMotorsports...23740?__tn__=-R

Read the text in this post, it said DCC meaning AVS in your case.

This post has been edited by 4WD_er: Jan 13 2020, 11:02 AM

normally which year Harrier recond having more issue / problem?