QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 31 2020, 01:31 PM)
Neither "faith alone" nor "grace alone" nor "works alone" are correct when it’s used to say that you don’t need to in any way to cooperate with God’s grace, that a merely intellectual faith would save you, nor accepting the initial grace given but not persevering, nor relying on works alone without faith. All three by themselves without the others are false.
"Faith alone" - dead
"Grace alone" - without cooperating on our part make us like robots.
"Works alone" - reminiscent of Pelagianism, relying purely on human nature for salvation.
If we are talking about salvific faith, then yes, salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone, not of anything by your own merits.
I think Catholic theology agrees on this.
It it only when it comes to when the Christian falls into mortal sin that catholicism and protestants differ.
You believe that after the Christian falls into mortal sin, he has to work his way back into good standing with God, this is where penance, confessions, meritorious prayers, mass all come into play, and if he dies without enough deeds, he will be sent to purgotory.
This is where generally where we differ. (or at this point, we are in the sanctification stage).
Just to be accurate about the terms we are using here.
QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Mar 31 2020, 02:17 PM)
Why are some Christians committing willful or intentional or voluntary sins/law-breaking and publicly confessing that nobody can actually keep the Law, including Christians like 'unknown warrior'.?
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I don't think he is preaching lawlessness.
But the law with reference to the new and old covenant is a very complicated matter.
In the new testament, sometimes the law can mean old testament, sometimes the 5 books of Moses, sometimes the 600 Israelite laws, sometimes the 10 commandments, sometimes the moral code of God, sometimes the jewish interpretation of all of those (the talmud)
It demands a very thorough understanding of the old testament.
QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Apr 1 2020, 04:37 AM)
Stay safe everyone! & also
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Thanks, you too.