I dont know where to ask this so i resort here.. me and my boyfriend had unprotected sex once and i end up pregnant.. i know its not something to brag about but I don’t want to abort the baby..I’m muslim here in malaysia and my boyfriend is non muslim and he’s not malaysian.. if i were to give birth to the baby is the baby eligible for malaysian citizenship? The father is korean nationality and obviously not muslim so my question is do we have to get married first in order for the baby to be eligible to get malaysian citizenship?

yes. the child would be a malaysian, the father section would be empty, ur child will be 'bin Abdullah' in birth cert and in IC

This post has been edited by kurangak: Sep 21 2019, 06:00 PM

Are you both planning to live in Malaysia or South Korea?

Not sure yet..because he’s actually a student here.. he will have to go back to south korea february next year.. but probably if i were to raise the baby maybe i will have to move south korea with him.. especially here for muslim they say child out of wedlock will face the stigma of “bin abdullah”.. in korea they dont have stupid shaming culture like this..

have you talked to him about it? will he marry you and take care of the children? Will you be able to take care of the children on your own?

I see.. dont malaysia have dual nationality as well? Because i saw somewhere dual nationality exists but i dont know if it applies to my current situation..

Why don't consider marrying in South Korea, and South Korean citizenship for your baby? Then later apply Malaysian PR for your baby

Currently if you give birth in Malaysia the baby will be Malaysian. If you give birth outside Malaysia, the baby won't get citizenship automatically. If you somehow plan to give birth in South Korea, you going have to check the law there. Worst case the baby don't have any citizenship, and that's a huge problem.

How many months is the pregnancy? If it's less than 3 months, and if you are willing, marry someone else immediately so the baby will inherit someone else name. If you are willing.

Nowadays can be name other than Abdullah.. Rahman etc.

No.. malaysia doesnt allow dual citizenship..

Malaysia does not accept dual nationality. You either be a citizen of Malaysia or another country. Can't be both. If you are caught with dual citizenship... Your Malaysian citizenship will be revoked.

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This post has been edited by toos99: Apr 3 2022, 03:50 AM

No never heard before. But I'm sure baby will get malaysian citizenship

Does your parents know about this?

What is their view on this matter?

First thing first, have a serious conversation with your boyfriend first - work out a solid plan and next steps.

Personally, think parents from both sides will need to know and be involved as well as both of you are still pretty young.

Having a baby is a totally different kind of commitment (and a huge one). Hopefully, you and your boyfriend, with your respective families involved can work out a sound solution amicably. *fingers crossed

This post has been edited by EuPhoBoy: Sep 21 2019, 08:22 PM

Don't give wrong advise. It was in the news the other day.. If child born outside of Malaysia by Malaysian women, you might have headache getting Malaysian citizenship

My advice, have the baby here. Even if you will marry him 1 day, I assume it will not be before your due date. I don't know the law in korea but I don't think it will easily grant citizenship out of wedding lock. Recheck again, have a talk with your bf. Not just make decision out of assumption.
If you delivered your baby outside of Malaysia, no automatic citizenship of Malaysia will be awarded. Have to apply, and don't know how long will be accepted.

This post has been edited by Noryume: Sep 21 2019, 08:36 PM

Is that so? But problem here is that baby is born here. Read back what ts write first.

Marry someone else? Not easy for someone to accept also.

1. You can keep your little “blip”, but.. he/she would get an Abdullah as his/last name. (Out of wed)

2. Easier to apply malaysian citizenships for your baby in the future if you give birth here(Out Of wed). Give birth overseas is not made of cupcakes and rainbow if you are not fully loaded, in legal relationships, on a legal visa.


3. Your baby won’t get dual citizenship. Choose one Either become malaysian citizen, or other country’s citizen, can’t be both, applied for all malaysian regardless what’s your status, even if you are a royal or minister’s daughter, Only One Malaysia! 👆🏻🙂


4. Without a wedding certificate, your baby can get Korean citizenship, would much easier if you give birth in korea, if you give birth in malaysia of course would be complicated.. the father needs to apply and do all the heavy duty paperworks then submit to the korean Embassy. Your baby’s original birth certificate would only filled by your name, without the father’s name if both of you are not married. The father needs to apply rayuan to court and usually Followed by paternity test. Once get korean citizenship, her/his Malay citizenship would be revoked. But remember, you might loose your child forever if after granted korean citizenship your boyfriend make U turn and don’t want to marry you. As your child is a korean National and no marriage certificate. If you choose to give birth in SK, please think what Visa you’ll apply to stay in South Korea without being kicked out right after or before gave birth because of overstay. Safer option is marry first and get a spouse visa.


5. If you planned to get married, better act fast.. as procedure to marrying a foreign citizen is quite complicated, especially for moslem.


6. Please allow me to PM you, I’m a woman, and a mother. I can’t promise you a way out. But you should know that you are not supposed to facing this alone.

Firstly congratulations on your baby.

Secondly, if I was you I will go to Korean embassy and ask them about the baby's eligibility and nationality and also about dual citizenship. Normally their normal staff at the counter will know all this info.

This post has been edited by kuci_mayong: Sep 21 2019, 11:04 PM

Ok let me make it easier for ts. 3 main problems here.

1. You are not married
2. Bf a foreigner
3. He's not a Muslim

1. You need to get married to reg the the baby. If not the child will need to be adopted to be eligible for citizenship

2. If you decided to get married he needs to convert to Muslim so everything is properly documented for birth certificate.

3. Most important don't take advise here. Have a proper advised from lawyers for free. "We" can only give OPINION not solutions. What you need to do is to go to LEGAL AID Center in KL BAR. 03-2691 1121 they will help you out. Everything is free. The solution is straight forward.. you (and him) just need to see it through

4. As a fellow Muslim I have to say that.. you know I know lah yer.. there is a reason why we need to set boundaries in a relationship... so go get married.. have a stress free and a happier life.. Good luck to you girl .. stay strong .. make sure you have support .. you are not alone.. seen this case many times..

1. How many weeks pregnant? Less than 3 month (lebih 6 bulan qamariah), you still can get married (if both agree) and your newborn will not be subject under section 13 of birth registration. Meaning can nasab under father's name.
2. If it already more and 3 months (kurang 6 bulan qamariah), still can get married and register under section 13 of which the newborn will have to take either one of 99 Allah's name as nasab.
3. If do not want to marry, JPN will normally ask to register under single parent. Actually according to court ruling you both can register the baby without marriage certificate but the baby will still take one of Allah's name as nasab.
3. You can register as single parent, without father info.
4. If the child is born out of wedlock outside Malaysia to a Malaysian woman with a foreign man, the baby will not be given automatic Malaysian citizenship. No provision of law for that.
5. If you get married outside Malaysia and child is born outside Malaysia, your child can become a Malaysian if you want to. Good thing is, your newborn name is not bound by Malaysian ruling, meaning if you put your baby name as Ali Jung Kook (say if you are to get married and give birth in Korea). When you register back your baby name in Malaysia, JPN will not issue a new birth certificate. They will use Korean birth cert of your baby and, they will issue your baby a Borang W which is basically a confirmation of the child status as Malaysian citizen. That can be done anytime before you child reach 18 years old.

This post has been edited by frossonice: Sep 21 2019, 10:53 PM

based on all the matured replies here, looks like old pakcikmakcikunkeraunti are the ones bohsia in /k at night.

#proudofmalaysianimsomniacs.
#ustaz-facebook-tido-awal

dont worry. your parents will help you. ask them for help.

Holy shit this is the worst thing I've read in this topic.

The other guy who she needs to accept her and her baby also needs to be willing. You dont go around covering your pregnancy by marrying guys that didnt get you pregnant.

You don't have to put bin or binti on Malaysian IC.

this is where you're wrong.. a baby born by a citizen mother will have birth rights whether the mother is married or not.
without a Muslim father the baby would be deemed illigitamate with the fathers details blanked... so if you're a Malaysian make sure you give birth here.. a Korean citizenship is secondary att the moment.. don't be afraid to register your child once you give birth to him/her.. how I know? Well let's just say I've experienced the same situation..

child will be Malaysian if baby is delivered in Malaysia.

Go to government hospitals.
initiate your booking at Klinik Kesihatan.

Yes give birth in msia first then move with him to Korea

1)How many weeks is your pregnancy?
2) Do u plan to tell your parents about this or handling it on your own?
3)Will the father be commited and take responsibility?

this is very important.

dont worry if people say when nurse ask for kad kahwin and u dont have, they not gonna accept u.

thats not true.

they will accept u.

its not klinik isteri dan anak.
its klinik ibu dan anak.

u are a mother (to be).

agree.

then become worse than k-drama.

this is not solution, but just cover up.

Seems like nobody ask the most important question

How sure are you that a foreign student would bring your back KR and marry you ?

When you said he's going back Feb next year, does that mean he's just gonna pretend nothing happen from now till Feb next year ? With a child in your belly are you seriously gonna just wait till Feb next year to find out if he's gonna be a great guy and bring a pregnant girl back home ?

Stupidest quote ever.

ts went missing already