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TSEternalgl0ry
post Sep 18 2019, 01:45 AM, updated 7y ago

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Anyone know the ideal , popular or best soundproofing shop to recommend?

That do those sound dampening and insulation throughout the car
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post Sep 18 2019, 07:44 AM

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post Sep 18 2019, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Sep 18 2019, 01:45 AM)
Anyone know the ideal , popular or best soundproofing shop to recommend?

That do those sound dampening and insulation  throughout the car
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I am looking for soundproofing too.

Currently there are 2 types I found. One is those normal using soundproofing mats. Take note, for proper soundproofing you need to use 2 types of material. Sound deadening and sound proofing. One type is thicker to be laid on first layer then the thinner one will be laid on top. This is more expensive but is very effective compared to just using 1 layer.

Another type is called autofoam. This is done by filling up all the doors and crevices with a type of soundproofing foam. I am not sure if this one is better but I see potential issue when next time need to do maintenance. For example, the wires or connections will be covered in the foam. Advantage of autofoam is the it make the car more solid and have better handling.

I would prefer the first method but I am not sure if I want to invest 3k into doing it.
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post Sep 18 2019, 12:29 PM

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post Sep 18 2019, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 18 2019, 12:19 PM)
I am looking for soundproofing too.

Currently there are 2 types I found. One is those normal using soundproofing mats. Take note, for proper soundproofing you need to use 2 types of material. Sound deadening and sound proofing. One type is thicker to be laid on first layer then the thinner one will be laid on top. This is more expensive but is very effective compared to just using 1 layer.

Another type is called autofoam. This is done by filling up all the doors and crevices with a type of soundproofing foam. I am not sure if this one is better but I see potential issue when next time need to do maintenance. For example, the wires or connections will be covered in the foam. Advantage of autofoam is the it make the car more solid and have better handling.

I would prefer the first method but I am not sure if I want to invest 3k into doing it.
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Dude.... this one is part rubbish. Just soundproof with sheets is more than enough already. The foam is really waste of money. It does not have direct effect to flat surface panels {metal or plastic) that generates the most amount of sound.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 18 2019, 12:57 PM)
Dude.... this one is part rubbish. Just soundproof with sheets is more than enough already. The foam is really waste of money. It does not have direct effect to flat surface panels {metal or plastic) that generates the most amount of sound.
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I agree. That's why I am not that keen on researching on autofoam further. Just mentioned here to provide information and discussion for everyone. Maybe those who have used autofoam can attest to that.
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post Sep 18 2019, 09:05 PM

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post Sep 19 2019, 10:38 PM

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I also heard some non and existing autofoam customers say it is rubbish. A few are form singapore that travel all the way from SG to KL in order to do this foam thing. but most say is Just marketing gimmick and overpriced

Most also mention need to do both the foam and the soundproofing mats in order to get " results " dry.gif

One of them autofoam the whole vehicle. But when he got into a accident

He say it is a big hassle. That is what the panel workshop told him mentioning need to remove the foam crap in order to process what and what

I dont know whether that is true but when i watch autofoam youtube video. It did mention here in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRIAY2GDNoo

He did say it will take longer. So it looks like the customer who told me is true

If live outside KL. Consider jialat omg situation unless autofoam willing to go to the workshop lol to remove the foam using some sort of chemical i think ? since it is resistant to fire hazard rclxub.gif

I am 49% interested on autofoam but i hear more bad reviews more than good
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I also researched a bit and find out there are cheap to good and better brands for soundproofing. This must be choose wisely as it sticks on it forever

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CCS car comfort shop looks popular but they only mainly do budget to medium level . Meaning the products they carry are not really for people who want good results.... Its acceptable since it is cheap to begin with but you get what you pay for

I do not know whether they carry better ones but it seems like they always use " russian " installers for their advertisements unsure.gif whistling.gif
Maybe they are not showing to people or something for their premium products ??? rclxub.gif

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Apart from the brands. I notice the dismantle and install part are more important
That is the main reason why i am looking for a good shop lol because i witness my colleague's car getting dismantle in the hard way ( when done all we can see are the scuffs, scratches, missing screws and wrong fitment inside)

The worst part is that even though the noise are reduced after being done in a shakehead.gif lousy car accessories shop. Some of the fitment caused irritating rattle later only found out the installer anyhow do it back. The stuffs were all dismantled again
i heard and only able to fitback in a more professional shop he found later

Easy to remove , hard to put back that is what i can say

This post has been edited by Eternalgl0ry: Sep 19 2019, 10:59 PM
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post Sep 19 2019, 11:51 PM

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Just to share my 2 cents experience for couple of car I own before.. My ICE hobby since IASCA very active in Malaysia till they dead & replace with EMMA by others group. Have use premium brand like Dynamat, Brown Bread & Brax before but the result not much diff compared to cheap SikaDamp deadening made in Ulu Kinta.. Till today I'm still regular customer to KF Audio..
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in terms of autofoam, it's to fill hollow cavities.

shout in a cave and you'd understand
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post Sep 20 2019, 03:54 AM

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post Sep 20 2019, 10:32 AM

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I am thinking why they do not include these things during manufacturing the cars sad.gif


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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Sep 20 2019, 10:32 AM)
I am thinking why they do not include these things during manufacturing the cars sad.gif
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cut cost and profit to the max
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Do you guys think that soundproofing for the bonnet will increase the chance for the engine to overheat, especially for turbo engines? Myth or truth?
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Sep 20 2019, 03:49 AM)
in terms of autofoam, it's to fill hollow cavities.

shout in a cave and you'd understand
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Where do you hear the sound in the cave? Only in the cave right?

Autofoam is snake oil.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ Sep 20 2019, 10:55 AM)
Do you guys think that soundproofing for the bonnet will increase the chance for the engine to overheat, especially for turbo engines? Myth or truth?
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I think it will. Heat is harder to dissipate. Not only engine, all those plastic part under bonnet also.
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QUOTE(thurtin @ Sep 20 2019, 10:55 AM)
Do you guys think that soundproofing for the bonnet will increase the chance for the engine to overheat, especially for turbo engines? Myth or truth?
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Sound proofing bonnet is one of the silliest thing I've seen. where are you blocking the sound from? Blocking it from passerby?

Yes, the more you put under the bonnet, the more heat, so it is bad for any engine. The heat /sound protector from the manufacturer is sufficient.
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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Sep 20 2019, 10:32 AM)
I am thinking why they do not include these things during manufacturing the cars sad.gif
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Cost, especially bread and butter price sensitive models. If invest RM100 in soundproof material in 100,000 units thats RM10M less profit.

Plus nowadays people only wants more features/equipment which can be seen and felt compare to improvements that are not visible like NVH. Thus, manufacturer tend to lean against the visible features to deliver 'perceived value'.

Look at the econobox vios, from 1 airbag kosong spec to pack full of features including BSM just to counter the GM6 City. If market demands have not changed, I bet UMW could still get away with J spec dino 4spd+1nz-fe shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Sep 19 2019, 10:38 PM)
Apart from the brands. I notice the dismantle and install part are more important
That is the main reason why i am looking for a good shop lol because i witness my colleague's car getting dismantle in the hard way ( when done all we can see are the scuffs, scratches, missing screws and wrong fitment inside)

The worst part is that even though the noise are reduced after being done in a  shakehead.gif lousy car accessories shop. Some of the fitment caused irritating rattle later only found out the installer anyhow do it back. The stuffs were all dismantled again
i heard and only able to fitback in a more professional shop he found later

Easy to remove ,  hard to put back that is what i can say
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This is my main concern too when looking for soundproofing fitment shops. Lots of them just don't care to do things properly. If they broke a clip, they will not be bothered to replace it. They will cause rattling sound later which is irritating to driver.

That is why I am thinking of DIY myself. If I do DIY, I will take my own sweet time to do it properly and slowly. Just need to get the proper soundproofing materials. That is the part that I am unsure about. I don't have the luxury of test and trials to find best material.
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QUOTE(jamespaul @ Sep 20 2019, 11:10 AM)
Where do you hear the sound in the cave? Only in the cave right?

Autofoam is snake oil.
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Autofoam saved my life pls.

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