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Hong Kong Exchange & HK Stocks, Per title post-Extradition Bill W/drawal
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Cubalagi
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Sep 4 2019, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 4 2019, 09:50 PM) Yes and No,..... Yes, looks like I'm still watching because I got triggered today by all these news,... and No because, well,.. I have really not been watching closely,.. In fact, I never thought that this 'change' would come in that quickly,... guessed different countries have different environment,... I thought we would still have easily another few weeks to go before something major wld happen, ie in time for the 'national day' of the CCP on October 1st,... Dont discount PLA action completely. Can still happen. The ball is now in the demonstrators court. HK govt has shown willingness to compromise. If demonstrators become stubborn n get worse then there is now more justification for drastic action.
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Cubalagi
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Sep 5 2019, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 4 2019, 11:03 PM) China Mobile's Net Profit Growth and EPS Growth has been negative except for FY2017. You think this will improve later ? China Mobile currently has 740 million 4G customers. Over the next few years, these people will be upgrading their package to 5G. N China govt is pushing 5G hard as a national priority. That is what I'm excited about. Other than China Mobile.. Well basically tech, consumer n autos should be good long term plays. The big thing about China is the growing middle class. What will they spend on? Think along that line. The traditional export manufacturing sectors are taking back seat in China economy. The trade war will accelerate this further as China try to build domestic resilience. Early this year they introduced fiscal policies to encourage domestic consumption. Expect more to come. Banking is out..still too risky now with their bad debt problem. Insurance is ok (eg AIA) as middle class will start buying more insurance. Short term.. Watch Cnooc and Petrochina.. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 5 2019, 12:32 AM
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Cubalagi
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Sep 5 2019, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Sep 5 2019, 12:36 PM) Any sifus have any thoughts on Sinopec (0386)? Oh.. I missed out Sinopec. Yes. Im bullish OnG atm but I picked Petrochina. Oil prices looking strong. if u think there will be a US China truce this month n HK calm.. this will be good place to put some bets. Of course, high risk bet. Get ready to take profit or cut loss fast. It only takes a bad tweet... 😅 N not sifu... don't believe what I say.. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 5 2019, 11:38 PM
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Cubalagi
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Sep 9 2019, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 8 2019, 10:41 PM) I guessed it's important to decide what type of investor one is ! As a Fixed Income (FI) investor, I preferred not to occupy my mind with those quick actions you mentioned above, bro,... but yeah, if one is a cap gain investor, taking profits and cutting losses should be set in. I don't see the need to limit to one type. High dividend types tend to be stable, low growth companies. Low/no dividend types tend to be high growth types. Depending on market cycle, one will outperform the other. And of course, a great way to boost income is to get a nice capital gain somewhere and to dump it into a high yield instrument.. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 9 2019, 01:12 PM
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Cubalagi
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Sep 9 2019, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 9 2019, 01:26 PM) HSBC is one of the secondary bookrunners for the Historical Saudi Aramco IPO. Aramco IPO.. Why u think I bullish OnG? 😆 This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 9 2019, 02:30 PM
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Cubalagi
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Sep 11 2019, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Sep 11 2019, 11:25 AM) So talk so long , What did u guys shop these few weeks ?  Â  Â  Petrochina. End Aug just before Merdeka weekend.. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 11 2019, 02:04 PM
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Cubalagi
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Sep 11 2019, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Sep 11 2019, 08:23 PM) Interesting choice. Hmm quite surprise someone will choose OnG counter since our malaysia market have plenty choice. Hehe Well yes.. I have parked some in Malaysia OnG also.. 😆 But u see, Malaysia OnG are small n mostly retail investor plays. So these will be slower to move n very volatile as Malaysian retail investors are still cautious. But if they move, I hope to make good $$$. Petrochina is an HK index linked stock. So immediately benefit from the international flows n already up 10% in 2 weeks. . Btw these are short term opportunistic trades.. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Sep 11 2019, 08:57 PM
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Cubalagi
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Sep 13 2019, 01:57 AM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Sep 12 2019, 10:19 AM) Interestingly,... I have always been a Fixed Income investor,.. never tried much as a Cap Gain investor. I believe in the fact that if a particular ctr has sufficient dividend-paying qualities, it will ultimately turn out to provide capital gains too,... and the more of such 'Unrealized' capital gains in the price of the ctr, I treat it as the higher my margin-of-safety is. My view is that u should only be this "Fixed Income" investor if u are a retiree or close to retiring and need the dividend for income to cover expenses. I focus more on total return. Money is money regardless from dividends or capital gains. I'm happy to get dividends but capital gains are usuallly a faster way to increase total return. I have both high divdend stocks and low/no dividend stocks, for diversification purposes. However, I don't need the dividend as income as I'm still earning a paycheck every month. Dividends get reinvested. Progress is measured not by how much income I make but how much my investment portfolio grows every year.
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Cubalagi
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Sep 23 2019, 11:19 AM
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U guys think that the political risks to HK stocks has abated?
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Cubalagi
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Oct 28 2019, 06:34 PM
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China blue chips up.. AIA big jump.. HSBC drop big..
This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Oct 28 2019, 06:38 PM
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Cubalagi
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Nov 11 2019, 02:50 PM
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HSI really down today, a good reminder of the risks of Market.
Buy the dip or stay put or get out..?
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Cubalagi
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Nov 13 2019, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 13 2019, 10:40 PM) I'm not quite sure how it works. Will the BABA:HKSE be priced similarly to their US counterpart? so 185 USD => 1450 HKD?? and will it dilute the shares for BABA:NYSE? edit: and previously they talked about 1-to-8 share split? Still haven't taken place. Report says it will raise USD13 billion. So it will dilute, but not by much considering its market cap is nearly USD500b. Price in HK should be very close to US, but not the same due to hours difference.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 13 2019, 11:02 PM
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Now I remember that Baba in US is a depository receipt. Not sure now what will be listed in HK. Stock or DR.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 14 2019, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 14 2019, 03:08 PM) eh, 10% WHT for HKSE? I had always thought HK was tax-free. What SG REITs are you holding? For the Chinese listed stocks.. like China Mobile, ICBC etc. Not for HK stocks like HSBC, AIA..
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Cubalagi
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Nov 17 2019, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 14 2019, 10:56 PM) I'm waiting for EWH (iShares MSCI Hong Kong Index Fund) to come back down a little more. Despite all the disturbance in Hong Kong and slips into technical recession last quarter, the index still quite resilient. EWH doesn't have Tencent. So unlikely it will have AliBaba in the index.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 17 2019, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 17 2019, 01:34 AM) Sis,.. how much is the IBKR brokerage ? How abt charges from the HK side ? Hong Kong stocks have stamp duty. Etfs are exempted. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Nov 17 2019, 01:28 PM
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Cubalagi
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Nov 27 2019, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 27 2019, 12:04 PM) For myself,... and other SGreans who hold SGD,... the forex risk is high for holding the HKD. Today, I have many pals in SG who kept telling me that they're holding so much HKD and AUD which have weakened badly against their/my SGD. Want to chg back - losing out in exchange rate. Perhaps if our natural currency is the RM, the scenario would be different. I have not made the study. I just invested in one small 'testwater' lot of HSBC HK, though I am in the green now (holding price HKD58.15, I think),... if I convert back into the SGD, I'm still losing out on exchange rate. Maybe if convert back into the RM, might gain,... but we have to be conscious of the mechanism here. Some mechanisms will just 'force' us to lose out. The China companies, like AliBaba, earn revenue in RMB not HKD. So the right currency to be worried about is RMB. In the situation where HKD is to weaken, then the stock should go up HKD wise, all things being equal. Of course a HKD peg break is a big market negative event n risks assets globally will be negative. This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Nov 27 2019, 12:20 PM
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Cubalagi
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Nov 27 2019, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 27 2019, 11:32 AM) Buy either the HSCEI etfs or the China A shares ETFs, there are many to choose form.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 27 2019, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 27 2019, 01:10 PM) wah...... BABA has risen close to 10%. Isn't it overbought already? Got more upside if trade deal signed. PE is still lower than Amazon, with higher earnings growth. My exposure to Baba is currently via a Bursa Malaysia Etf (0829EA) which has a 11% exposure in Baba. Currently, it's invested in the US one, but I expect it will convert to the HK one next month.
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Cubalagi
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Nov 27 2019, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 27 2019, 01:42 PM) Baba will join one of these 2822 and 2828 indices soon? Not 2822. That's China A index. Mainland China listed stocks. No Baba there. 2828, which tracks HSCEI index, is quite likely, but I dont know when. Baba could even join the main index, HSI, soon enough.
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