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 Hong Kong Exchange & HK Stocks, Per title post-Extradition Bill W/drawal

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cthinker926
post Nov 14 2019, 01:07 PM

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Hi bros & sis,

which platform is the best to trade hk stocks ya from malaysia right now?

Thx...
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post Nov 14 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(cthinker926 @ Nov 14 2019, 01:07 PM)
Hi bros & sis,

which platform is the best to trade hk stocks ya from malaysia right now?

Thx...
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I use FSM SG
elea88
post Nov 14 2019, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 4 2019, 07:04 PM)
Don't know. I already add at 3.83. Not going to add. Save bullet for Ascendas.
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just notice.. Agricultural Bank of China Limited (1288.HK)

at today price 3.17.. if same div its 5% wor...

what u think? with slowing China.. will bank business be badly affected?

This post has been edited by elea88: Nov 14 2019, 02:39 PM
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post Nov 14 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 14 2019, 02:35 PM)
just notice.. Agricultural Bank of China Limited (1288.HK)

at today price 3.17.. if same div its 6.1% wor...

what u think?
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I think there will be a 10% WHT and the divvy will be paid out once a year,... Not so attractive, sis,... Having said this, I noticed many of the HK REITs pays out twice a year only. This frequency is not that attractive compared to SG REITs which pay out 4 times a year.

Added,.. furthermore there are the following issues :-
1) there is exchange risk, especially when you are investing through FSM SG. FSM SG will always pay out the dividend in HKD. If we wish to, we can exchange this HKD into the SGD using their platform, but when I last checked, the rate is not attractive.
2) if we need to TT out our dpu in HKD to wherever we wish to, the charges are expensive.

All of the above will finally eat-in into the dpu received and then to the yield, making the yield unattractive again,....

This post has been edited by Hansel: Nov 14 2019, 02:45 PM
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post Nov 14 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 14 2019, 02:41 PM)
I think there will be a 10% WHT and the divvy will be paid out once a year,... Not so attractive, sis,... Having said this, I noticed many of the HK REITs pays out twice a year only. This frequency is not that attractive compared to SG REITs which pay out 4 times a year.

Added,.. furthermore there are the following issues :-
1) there is exchange risk, especially when you are investing through FSM SG. FSM SG will always pay out the dividend in HKD. If we wish to, we can exchange this HKD into the SGD using their platform, but when I last checked, the rate is not attractive.
2) if we need to TT out our dpu in HKD to wherever we wish to, the charges are expensive.

All of the above will finally eat-in into the dpu received and then to the yield, making the yield unattractive again,....
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eh, 10% WHT for HKSE? I had always thought HK was tax-free.

What SG REITs are you holding?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 14 2019, 02:41 PM)
I think there will be a 10% WHT and the divvy will be paid out once a year,... Not so attractive, sis,... Having said this, I noticed many of the HK REITs pays out twice a year only. This frequency is not that attractive compared to SG REITs which pay out 4 times a year.

Added,.. furthermore there are the following issues :-
1) there is exchange risk, especially when you are investing through FSM SG. FSM SG will always pay out the dividend in HKD. If we wish to, we can exchange this HKD into the SGD using their platform, but when I last checked, the rate is not attractive.
2) if we need to TT out our dpu in HKD to wherever we wish to, the charges are expensive.

All of the above will finally eat-in into the dpu received and then to the yield, making the yield unattractive again,....
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buy using Interactive Broker...

so, collect HKD park in HKD wallet..
hmm the 10% why i never thought of that...?


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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 14 2019, 03:08 PM)
eh, 10% WHT for HKSE? I had always thought HK was tax-free.

What SG REITs are you holding?
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For the Chinese listed stocks.. like China Mobile, ICBC etc. Not for HK stocks like HSBC, AIA..
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post Nov 14 2019, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Nov 14 2019, 01:20 PM)
I use FSM SG
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Thanks Krv23490, btw is this the cheapest platform to trade in HKEX currently?
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are you guys planning to buy BABA next week?

but I think Warren Buffett advised against buying at IPO.
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post Nov 14 2019, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 14 2019, 02:35 PM)
just notice.. Agricultural Bank of China Limited (1288.HK)

at today price 3.17.. if same div its 5% wor...

what u think?  with slowing China.. will bank business be badly affected?
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I only buy ICBC. I stay away from the rest.

QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 14 2019, 03:41 PM)
buy using Interactive Broker...

so, collect HKD park in HKD wallet..
hmm the 10% why i never thought of that...?
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10% only for China listed stock in HK Those hoping banks.

QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 14 2019, 07:52 PM)
are you guys planning to buy BABA next week?

but I think Warren Buffett advised against buying at IPO.
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post Nov 14 2019, 10:56 PM

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I'm waiting for EWH (iShares MSCI Hong Kong Index Fund) to come back down a little more.
Despite all the disturbance in Hong Kong and slips into technical recession last quarter, the index still quite resilient.



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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 14 2019, 10:07 PM)
I only buy ICBC. I stay away from the rest.
10% only for China listed stock in HK Those hoping banks.
Yes.
Is like Google.
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IB since brokerage low.. i intend go for 1000 each of the 4 banks.. dunno logic or not.
collect slowly.

BTW our packaging came down a lot...

last time with STD CHART.. hv to buy lots coz want save on the brokerage.
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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 14 2019, 07:52 PM)
are you guys planning to buy BABA next week?

but I think Warren Buffett advised against buying at IPO.
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Yes, you are right he said that, but this is different as Alibaba has been listed in US and has historical performance data and 'reputation'.

Most IPOs dont have performance history and you need to wait and see how it perform post listing.


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does anyone know if IBKR can receive HKD via InstaRem?

and BABA is definitely in HKD? It will not be in USD right?

edit:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/15/alibaba-pri...ng-listing.html

Retail shares will be priced at no more than 188 Hong Kong dollars (about $24.01).

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 15 2019, 09:34 AM)
IB since brokerage low.. i intend go for 1000 each of the 4 banks.. dunno logic or not.
collect slowly.

BTW our packaging came down a lot...

last time with STD CHART.. hv to buy lots coz want save on the brokerage.
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If you are using pure IB, make sure to pick tiered pricing. It will bring down your cost further.Pick the best bank. Max buy 2.

What packaging?
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 16 2019, 12:11 AM)
If you are using pure IB, make sure to pick tiered pricing. It will bring down your cost further.Pick the best bank. Max buy 2.

What packaging?
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Greatview Aseptic Packaging Company Limited
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post Nov 17 2019, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Nov 15 2019, 01:34 PM)
does anyone know if IBKR can receive HKD via InstaRem?

and BABA is definitely in HKD? It will not be in USD right?

edit:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/15/alibaba-pri...ng-listing.html

Retail shares will be priced at no more than 188 Hong Kong dollars (about $24.01).
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Yes, to apply for the coming Baba IPO, you must use ONLY HKD !

Guys and Sis,... have you guys thought abt this ? If, let's say, you are not successful in your application, your funds will be stuck in the HKD which keeps weakening. Isn't this an issue ?
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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 15 2019, 09:34 AM)
IB since brokerage low.. i intend go for 1000 each of the 4 banks.. dunno logic or not.
collect slowly.

BTW our packaging came down a lot...

last time with STD CHART.. hv to buy lots coz want save on the brokerage.
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Sis,.. how much is the IBKR brokerage ? How abt charges from the HK side ?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 17 2019, 01:23 AM)
Yes, to apply for the coming Baba IPO, you must use ONLY HKD !

Guys and Sis,... have you guys thought abt this ? If, let's say, you are not successful in your application, your funds will be stuck in the HKD which keeps weakening. Isn't this an issue ?
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hkd is peg to usd right? Hmm...
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 17 2019, 01:34 AM)
Sis,.. how much is the IBKR brokerage ? How abt charges from the HK side ?
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I use tradestation global and only got charged HKD20/transaction. Don't really bother about how much HK govt charge.

Not sure how much if using our IB.

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