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post Aug 29 2019, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Aug 29 2019, 02:35 PM)
rather just give the breakfast free to rural area students.. city students malnourished? lol.. in the end the food will be wasted or obese kids for city kids..
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this one I half agree.. because some city students may also have financial difficulties.

But some have commented also that fix the cleanliness first.

Not my favourite move, but it's still considered a good one.
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post Aug 29 2019, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:00 PM)
1st, i dun want govt use rakyat money to subsidize t20 group....
i am sure u dun want use tax money go subsidize some parent staying at tropicana landed salary 10k above punya kids....

2nd prepare 40, choose not to eat...so what happen to all this food? food wastage.... doh.gif
food wastage = money wastage...ur tax money down the drain

so why not really give / aim the b40

it wont take huge resources, the school has the data of family income when u register.
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1. the T20 will not go into public school, most likely they will be in private school with private teachers. I don't think we need to worry about them.

2. the food will not be wasted, the teacher can ask anyone who need it can bring it home, there's plenty of B10 (yes, those who worse than B40) will bring it back home for their family. The point is making sure all the kids felt they are equal and if got extra food who need it can bring home.

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post Aug 29 2019, 03:06 PM

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waiting how they gonna implement this thing,
if one parent can provide better and tastier bfast,would that student quota go to waste or given to another student?
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post Aug 29 2019, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 29 2019, 03:05 PM)
1. the T20 will not go into public school, most likely they will be in private school with private teachers. I don't think we need to worry about them.

2. the food will not be wasted, the teacher can ask anyone who need it can bring it home, there's plenty of B10 (yes, those who worse than B40) will bring it back home for their family. The point is making sure all the kids felt they are equal and if got extra food who need it can bring home.
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1st...we dunno if t20 go to what school or not.
aint our debt high? so why are we giving to ALL...like i said now debt high as what LGE said...dun do all 1st cannot? start small n see if it works cannot?
until now we dun even know how is the food , who is the operator , where to eat for ALL student. why need so gung ho start so huge?
i dun want to see tax payer money goes to family with can afford accord n etc.

2.bring it home? the food was prepared midnight as it is prepare for hundreds of student.
bring home means noon time already...later basi...or food poison another issue pulak. doh.gif
i am not sure midnight prepare food can last until noon or not. hmm.gif hmm.gif and not every food can be done so hmm.gif

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post Aug 29 2019, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:01 PM)
school got parent data of income when registration la bro
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still an additional task/procedures rite? wanna further burden the school ppl?
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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Aug 29 2019, 03:12 PM)
still an additional task/procedures rite? wanna further burden the school ppl?
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is just a 1 time job to seperate only.
as the food programme is year long

dun they have all this in data / pc?
sort aje by income no? hmm.gif

This post has been edited by M4A1: Aug 29 2019, 03:14 PM
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post Aug 29 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:09 PM)
1st...we dunno if t20 go to what school or not.
aint our debt high? so why are we giving to ALL...like i said now debt high as what LGE said...dun do all 1st cannot? start small n see if it works cannot?
until now we dun even know how is the food , who is the operator , where to eat for ALL student. why need so gung ho start so huge?
i dun want to see tax payer money goes to family with can afford accord n etc.

2.bring it home? the food was prepared midnight as it is prepare for hundreds of student.
bring home means noon time already...later basi...or food poison another issue pulak. doh.gif
i am not sure midnight prepare food can last until noon or not. hmm.gif  hmm.gif  and not every food can be done so hmm.gif
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1. if people are worry about debt, they can just test it on a few rural schools to see how it goes. Starting with a few rural schools is also start small what.

2. about food spoilage, it's always the challenge in any food preparation organisation, be it worker canteen or breakfast program. My suggestion it could be in a packaged bread + 1 box of milk, which for me can be safely bring back home and will not spoil.

Anyway, don't worry too much, it's just an idea and not even starting yet.

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blom implement lg dh byk complain
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 29 2019, 03:15 PM)
1. if people are worry about debt, they can just test it on a few rural schools to see how it goes. Starting with a few rural schools is also start small what.

2. about food spoilage, it's always the challenge in any food preparation organisation, be it worker canteen or breakfast program. My suggestion it could be in a packaged bread + 1 box of milk, which for me can be safely bring back home and will not spoil.

Anyway, don't worry too much, it's just an idea and not even starting yet.
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i thought they are starting next year already? still IDea? hmm.gif hmm.gif
only left 4 mths to sort everything out laugh.gif

but as usual, sure many hiccup...tu la gung ho sangat


PETALING JAYA: Free breakfast will be served to children in primary schools throughout the country from January next year, Education Minister Maszlee Malik said today.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2019/08/27...-starting-2020/

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post Aug 29 2019, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:13 PM)
is just a 1 time job to seperate only.
as the food programme is year long

dun they have all this in data / pc?
sort aje by income no? hmm.gif
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thinking about if got changes In parents income, go to makcik canteen show card makan free?budak lupa how?
I think wateva additional hassle of monitoring can be exclude if all are given..and also pretty sure we do not want students to feel rendah diri when they get it free cuz parents earn lesser than their peers.. u know students now days pandai compare who earn more, who drive wat car, my father richer than ur father bla blalba… do not want to create such dividing standards .
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:13 PM)
is just a 1 time job to seperate only.
as the food programme is year long

dun they have all this in data / pc?
sort aje by income no? hmm.gif
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it's not 1 time job.

if the B40 parents next year increase salary become M40 .... so how?

if the M40 parents suddenly lost their job and no money .... so how?

it's very tedious to update who qualify and who not.

might as well give all the student breakfast in the same school.

rich kids parents also pay a lot of taxes to the government, and they don't deserve to have free breakfast as others?

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 29 2019, 03:19 PM)
it's not 1 time job.

if the B40 parents next year increase salary become M40 .... so how?

if the M40 parents suddenly lost their job and no money .... so how?

it's very tedious to update who qualify and who not.

might as well give all the student breakfast in the same school.

rich kids parents also pay a lot of taxes to the government, and they don't deserve to have free breakfast as others?
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if govt can handle current BR1M

why not this? hmm.gif

let each school handle la, govt no need to stress as when parent register, they already fill up the income form
any changes...go update school la, apa susah
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:16 PM)
i thought they are starting next year already? still IDea? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
only left 4 mths to sort everything out laugh.gif

but as usual, sure many hiccup...tu la gung ho sangat
PETALING JAYA: Free breakfast will be served to children in primary schools throughout the country from January next year, Education Minister Maszlee Malik said today.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2019/08/27...-starting-2020/
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see how first, probably next year the MoE also change head liao biggrin.gif

these ministers I tell you ... always hangat2 tahi ayam one, after 1 month they probably change their mind liao


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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Aug 29 2019, 03:18 PM)
thinking about if got changes In parents income, go to makcik canteen show card makan free?budak lupa how?
I think wateva additional hassle of monitoring can be exclude if all are given..and also pretty sure we do not want students to feel rendah diri when they get it free cuz  parents earn lesser than their peers.. u know students now days pandai compare who earn more, who drive wat car, my father richer than ur father bla blalba… do not want to create such dividing standards .
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only left 4 mths to prepare all issue of all breakfast to all student.
good luck brows.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Aug 29 2019, 03:21 PM)
see how first, probably next year the MoE also change head liao  biggrin.gif

these ministers I tell you ... always hangat2 tahi ayam one, after 1 month they probably change their mind liao
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i am sure now tender semua sudah out...cause left 4 mths only leh

unless U turn la laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 29 2019, 03:25 PM

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But i really do hope they have a proper way to monitor the foods. If cant find a way, postpone it till can find 1.

This is kids health here. Should not do half baked
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:22 PM)
only left 4 mths to prepare all issue of all breakfast to all student.
good luck  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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this is another issue.. stick to the original issue we are debating , which is why t20 also include yada2 why not only b40 .
lol
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:21 PM)
if govt can handle current BR1M

why not this? hmm.gif

let each school handle la, govt no need to stress as when parent register, they already fill up the income form
any changes...go update school la, apa susah
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I think the context is different here.

BR1M you apply privately for individual, gov will not chop on your face say you are B40.

but during breakfast time you will really see who can get the breakfast and who not, which is sometimes making the students feel uncomfortable like being announced they are poorfag.

so i disagree with income segregation



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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Aug 29 2019, 03:25 PM)
this is another issue.. stick to the original issue we are debating , which is why t20 also include yada2 why not only b40 .
lol
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this 1 debate until tmr also no conclusion

i have stated my point
whether everyone agree or not is up to u all laugh.gif
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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Aug 29 2019, 03:27 PM)
this 1 debate until tmr also no conclusion

i have stated my point
whether everyone agree or not is up to u all laugh.gif
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well I think u'll agree with my last point. then suddenly change to execution time line lel

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