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post Aug 29 2019, 12:45 PM, updated 7y ago

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Huawei Mate 30 can’t launch with official Google apps, says Google cry.gif

Huawei may face a major roadblock for its next flagship phone, the Mate 30 — it won’t be able to launch with Google apps and services due to the White House banning US companies (like Google) from doing business with the Chinese telecommunications firm, according to a report from Reuters.

That means that the Mate 30 — and presumably, other upcoming devices like the now-delayed foldable Mate X — could be severely limited at launch. They’ll still run Android, which is at its core open-source software that’s freely available. But Google has confirmed to The Verge that the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro (rumored to launch on September 18th) won’t be able to ship with Google’s apps and services on board, which could put them at a severe disadvantage given how important Google’s apps are.

THE MATE 30 WILL BE CUT OFF FROM THE PLAY STORE ENTIRELY

Huawei was granted a three-month extension from the United States Commerce Department back in May to allow it to take action “necessary to provide service and support, including software updates or patches, to existing Huawei handsets that were available to the public on or before May 16, 2019.” A second 90-day extension was just granted to the company last week and is set to end on November 19th, but that only applies to previously released phones. The Mate 30 (and any other variants of it that Huawei plans to release) doesn’t fit that bill and therefore won’t be included under that exemption.

Google apps and services — including, crucially, the Google Play Store — are considered a key part of Android as an operating system, so much so that the European Union fined Google a record $5 billion last year for using Play Store access as leverage to force Android phone manufacturers to default to Google search on their hardware. The only real success story for Android without Google services is Amazon’s inexpensive Fire tablets, and those aren’t exactly in the same ballpark as the Mate 30, which is a flagship device meant to compete with devices like the Galaxy Note 10 Plus, Pixel 4, and OnePlus 7 Pro.

Chinese phone companies have had to work without the Play Store for years (since Google doesn’t offer services within the country), but its a much more chaotic marketplace, with hundreds of app stores all competing and different apps available depending on the store.

Huawei has been working on its own Play Store alternative since 2018 as a contingency for this exact sort of situation, but the US’s ban means that it’ll still have an uphill battle ahead, since companies like Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, or any other US-based company won’t be able to offer apps for that store, even if they wanted to.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/28/20837492...white-house-ban

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Huawei plans to launch a new flagship phone even though it's banned from using Google’s Android

Huawei plans to forge ahead with the launch of new high-end smartphones in Europe even though it may not be able to offer Google's official Android operating system and widely used apps such as Google Maps, company executives told Reuters.

The world's No. 2 smartphone maker is set to unveil its new Mate 30 line of phones on September 18 in Munich, according to a source familiar with the matter, though it is not clear when the devices would go on sale.

The Mate 30, made to work on new 5G mobile networks, is Huawei's first major flagship smartphone launch since US President Donald Trump's administration effectively blacklisted the company in mid-May, alleging it is involved in activities that compromise US national security, a charge the company denies.

A Google spokesman told Reuters the Mate 30 cannot be sold with the licensed version of Android and associated Google apps and services due to the US ban on sales to Huawei. A temporary reprieve that the US government announced last week does not apply to new products such as the Mate 30, the spokesman said.

US companies can seek a license for specific products to be exempted from the ban. Google, a part of Alphabet Inc, would not say whether it had applied for a license for Android and the package of apps and services known as Google Mobile Services, though it has said in the past that it wants to continue supplying Huawei.

Reuters reported this week that the US Commerce Department has received more than 130 applications from companies for licenses to sell US goods to Huawei, but none have been granted.

The uncertainty surrounding the Mate 30 shows the confusion that reigns for Huawei and its business partners as a result of the escalating trade war between China and the United States. While the Huawei blacklisting was cast as a response to security concerns, President Trump has indicated it could be lifted as part of a trade deal.

"Huawei will continue to use the Android OS and ecosystem if the US government allows us to do so," Huawei spokesman Joe Kelly told Reuters. "Otherwise, we will continue to develop our own operating system and ecosystem."

The Commerce Department declined to comment.

Huawei can likely use an open-source version of Android without falling foul of the US ban on sales to them. But Google's apps can only be used under a paid license.

"Without Google Services, no one will buy the device," said independent analyst Richard Windsor. The Google software normally comes pre-loaded on Android devices.

Huawei earlier this month announced its own mobile operating system, dubbed Harmony. But analysts are skeptical that it is yet a viable alternative to Android.

As late as last week, senior Huawei executives struck a confident tone regarding Android and Google.

"Our new phones will still be based on Android," Vincent Pang, senior vice president and board director of Huawei, told a media gathering at the top of New York City's One World Trade Center, an iconic American symbol of perseverance.

"We want to maintain one standard, one ecosystem, one technology," he said.

Huawei is confident that other hardware in the new phone will be compliant with US law.

https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-plan...ban-2019-8?IR=T

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QUOTE(cringe @ Aug 29 2019, 12:45 PM)
Huawei Mate 30 can’t launch with official Google apps, says Google cry.gif

Huawei may face a major roadblock for its next flagship phone, the Mate 30 — it won’t be able to launch with Google apps and services due to the White House banning US companies (like Google) from doing business with the Chinese telecommunications firm, according to a report from Reuters.

That means that the Mate 30 — and presumably, other upcoming devices like the now-delayed foldable Mate X — could be severely limited at launch. They’ll still run Android, which is at its core open-source software that’s freely available. But Google has confirmed to The Verge that the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro (rumored to launch on September 18th) won’t be able to ship with Google’s apps and services on board, which could put them at a severe disadvantage given how important Google’s apps are.

THE MATE 30 WILL BE CUT OFF FROM THE PLAY STORE ENTIRELY

Huawei was granted a three-month extension from the United States Commerce Department back in May to allow it to take action “necessary to provide service and support, including software updates or patches, to existing Huawei handsets that were available to the public on or before May 16, 2019.” A second 90-day extension was just granted to the company last week and is set to end on November 19th, but that only applies to previously released phones. The Mate 30 (and any other variants of it that Huawei plans to release) doesn’t fit that bill and therefore won’t be included under that exemption.

Google apps and services — including, crucially, the Google Play Store — are considered a key part of Android as an operating system, so much so that the European Union fined Google a record $5 billion last year for using Play Store access as leverage to force Android phone manufacturers to default to Google search on their hardware. The only real success story for Android without Google services is Amazon’s inexpensive Fire tablets, and those aren’t exactly in the same ballpark as the Mate 30, which is a flagship device meant to compete with devices like the Galaxy Note 10 Plus, Pixel 4, and OnePlus 7 Pro.

Chinese phone companies have had to work without the Play Store for years (since Google doesn’t offer services within the country), but its a much more chaotic marketplace, with hundreds of app stores all competing and different apps available depending on the store.

Huawei has been working on its own Play Store alternative since 2018 as a contingency for this exact sort of situation, but the US’s ban means that it’ll still have an uphill battle ahead, since companies like Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, or any other US-based company won’t be able to offer apps for that store, even if they wanted to.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/28/20837492...white-house-ban
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 29 2019, 12:49 PM)
Well...there goes Huawei sales..
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 29 2019, 12:55 PM)
yes but if u can earn much more..

why stop at China?

but now thy have no choice...
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 29 2019, 12:56 PM)
yes but if u can earn much more..

why stop at China?

but now thy have no choice...
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Huawei can get more business oversea of course, that is the US ban for. They just cant compete with huawei
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lol means no play store?
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yeay 2k mate 30 incoming.

srsly, i would still buy it at 2k even if doesn't have play store..... lol...

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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Aug 29 2019, 12:59 PM)
lol means no play store?
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QUOTE(wilsonjay @ Aug 29 2019, 12:59 PM)
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Likely might still be able to use APK and install those apps?
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Huawei stop using android la. Time for Harmony/Red Dream/Hong Meng etc to become reality.

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Android phone without Google apps?
Hmm..
Seems pretty interesting
Those Google's app seems contribute alot for battery drain

Then again,
Wonder if Huawei will make their own server to host, akin of playstore/appetite


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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Aug 29 2019, 01:19 PM)
Oi....
Don't splash me cold water la...
2moro I plan to get mi9t pro la.....
My oneplus 3 screen black out, iphone 6 pregnant...
Need new phone...
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My oneplus 3 screen black out, iphone 6 pregnant...
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:33 PM)
Android phone without Google apps?
Hmm..
Seems pretty interesting
Those Google's app seems contribute alot for battery drain

Then again,
Wonder if Huawei will make their own server to host, akin of playstore/appetite
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Huawei got their own app store

And you can install play store apk lol
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:34 PM)
Huawei got their own app store

And you can install play store apk lol
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Huawei may let the user install play store, and from my experience, it's not as simple as just install playstore APK. If it's during 2.1, ok la.. Plus Google may block access to Huawei phones

Actually, the main problem for them imo is android and it's dependent of Google and USA firm's ecosystem

Most of those apps/services are linked to USA companies.

Advance user can easily just search and install APK but normal user, and most of them are normal user, will not willing to go thru the trouble. Probably can easily overcome if Huawei asked reseller install for them but updates?


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gone are the days when android/playstore/googleapps rule the phone industry. huawei are going to break that tradition.
tbh, google are more concerned about huawei's new os.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:34 PM)
Huawei got their own app store

And you can install play store apk lol
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I also don't even know how to do it.

Only nerd nerd that know how to install that thing. Ain't nobody got so much time to do that
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i been wondering. y only huawei kena?
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gone are the days when android/playstore/googleapps rule the phone industry. huawei are going to break that tradition.
tbh, google are more concerned about huawei's new os.
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i don't think google will not fare well. China will develop its own google and rival against google.
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i been wondering. y only huawei kena?
y other phone company like 1plus, asus, xiaomi tarak kena ini ban? all china geng rite? asus taiwan maybe
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QUOTE(bukankhadam @ Aug 29 2019, 02:02 PM)
i been wondering. y only huawei kena?
y other phone company like 1plus, asus, xiaomi tarak kena ini ban? all china geng rite? asus taiwan maybe
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because Huawei is world largest and most advanced 5g maker

trump afraid Huawei going to spy them using the same technology

hence they banned whole Huawei all together
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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:54 PM)
gone are the days when android/playstore/googleapps rule the phone industry. huawei are going to break that tradition.
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A phone with only firefox opera browser
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No waze,instagram,facebook??
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QUOTE(ymc2303 @ Aug 29 2019, 01:54 PM)
gone are the days when android/playstore/googleapps rule the phone industry. huawei are going to break that tradition.
tbh, google are more concerned about huawei's new os.
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Sooner or later. They can sustain their own market in China and slowly breakthru with their own OS.

You can see people bash iOS, Android bla bla bla...But they are still standing strong here, I believe the same goes to HongMeng.
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This is wonderful news, first steps for PRC to fail is on the way.

Won't be long before countries that are American allies would start doing the same especially those that are dependent on America for their defence needs.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 29 2019, 02:49 PM)
This is wonderful news, first steps for PRC to fail is on the way.

Won't be long before countries that are American allies would start doing the same especially those that are dependent on America for their defence needs.
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why stop buy samsung? samsung actually clap hands bcos of this. profit gonna increases 1000%
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 29 2019, 02:49 PM)
This is wonderful news, first steps for PRC to fail is on the way.

Won't be long before countries that are American allies would start doing the same especially those that are dependent on America for their defence needs.
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Past sanctions on China by the US, Europe and even the Soviet Union had all backfired. China became more self-reliant.
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Past sanctions on China by the US, Europe and even the Soviet Union had all backfired. China became more self-reliant.
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Right.........
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A phone with only firefox opera browser
No google play means cannot download apps

No waze,instagram,facebook??
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Not sure but I think can. May be use apk files?

Then there are other Stores beside Google Play Store


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Right.........
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Soviet Union thought China couldn't build their own atomic bomb after they withdrew all their technicians. China managed to build their first atomic bomb and then quickly followed by its first hydrogen bomb.

Europe used to supply weapons to China. Then imposed arms embargo on China after Tiananmen. Now China can build almost any weapon, no need to import from Europe.

US didn't allow China to participate in International Space Station. China is proceeding with its own space station.


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 29 2019, 12:57 PM)
Huawei can get more business oversea of course, that is the US ban for. They just cant compete with huawei
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American pu$$y whipped nations will also follow suit...

China will need to do business only with China pu$$y whipped nations...
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I guess they'll just settle for China market only for now until they're done with the new OS. Quite honestly I hope they succeed. Getting really tired of the US and their monopoly.

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I guess they'll just settle for China market only for now until they're done with the new OS.
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A big internal market like China can make a lot of things possible. Once successful there very easily pushed out to others. Many people just don't understand the magic of having a billion people market.
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if huawei manage to pull up Hong Meng/Harmony OS, it will be a big threat for google in future for sure. What doesn't kill it make it stronger.

Don't forget Huawei has support of the government and they will strive in their local market.
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huawei will prevail because big China market, as some said...yah yah yah...so funny... last time Windows phone got world market but still failed. ask yourself, without google, and those apps will u still buy the phone @ 3k++ ... if u still buy that idea.. good...without android n those US tech... Huawei will b dead meat very soon
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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Aug 29 2019, 04:14 PM)
Quite honestly I hope they succeed. Getting really tired of the US and their monopoly.
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Samsung had tried to be less reliant on Google so it wouldn't be surprising if it joins in to use HarmonyOS, together with LG, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi.

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QUOTE(voltan @ Aug 29 2019, 04:26 PM)
huawei will prevail because big China market, as some said...yah yah yah...so funny... last time Windows phone got world market but still failed. ask yourself, without google, and those apps will u still buy the phone @ 3k++ ... if u still buy that idea.. good...without android n those US tech... Huawei will b dead meat very soon
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Windows phone cannot run Android apps. Huge difference.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:29 PM)
Samsung had tried to be less reliant on Google so it wouldn't be surprising if it joins in to use HarmonyOS, together with LG, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi.
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Huawei may let the user install play store, and from my experience, it's not as simple as just install playstore APK. If it's during 2.1, ok la.. Plus Google may block access to Huawei phones

Actually, the main problem for them imo is android and it's dependent of Google and USA firm's ecosystem

Most of those apps/services are linked to USA companies.

Advance user can easily just search and install APK but normal user, and most of them are normal user, will not willing to go thru the trouble. Probably can easily overcome if Huawei asked reseller install for them but updates?
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Why not as easy as install apk? Other appstore also the same.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:29 PM)
Samsung had tried to be less reliant on Google so it wouldn't be surprising if it joins in to use HarmonyOS, together with LG, Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi.
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East vs West
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1 day say ban lifted
another day say ban incoming

fearmongering tactics???
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QUOTE(voltan @ Aug 29 2019, 04:26 PM)
huawei will prevail because big China market, as some said...yah yah yah...so funny... last time Windows phone got world market but still failed. ask yourself, without google, and those apps will u still buy the phone @ 3k++ ... if u still buy that idea.. good...without android n those US tech... Huawei will b dead meat very soon
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Windows phone never had a market. It was introducing itself when Android and iOS already took majority while Blackberry was getting its ass kicked. There were no space for Windows phone. The difference is China market isn't relying on Google in China. You need to be on VPN to use google services in China.

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East vs West
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Not even east vs west. Without China and South Korea, practically no Android maker in the US and Europe. And Google probably knew this.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:33 PM)
Windows phone cannot run Android apps. Huge difference.
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Windows had the market but their ego ruin n kill it, can't blame others.
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There will be a sudden influx of
WTS Huawei phones in marketplace. Lol.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Aug 29 2019, 04:37 PM)
Windows had the market but their ego ruin n kill it, can't blame others.
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It simply failed because couldn't run Android Apps. Many developers couldn't be bothered to develop for a 3rd platform.
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QUOTE(voltan @ Aug 29 2019, 04:26 PM)
huawei will prevail because big China market, as some said...yah yah yah...so funny... last time Windows phone got world market but still failed. ask yourself, without google, and those apps will u still buy the phone @ 3k++ ... if u still buy that idea.. good...without android n those US tech... Huawei will b dead meat very soon
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Huawei died meat ? Hahahaha ....
Even they stop manufacturer phone, us still can't kill huawei n no way,
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:39 PM)
It simply failed because couldn't run Android Apps. Many developers couldn't be bothered to develop for a 3rd platform.
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Get the fact first, don't hamtam for the sick of hamtam.
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Get the fact first, don't hamtam for the sick of hamtam.
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That is the fact. Windows Phone had an app gap problem.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:39 PM)
It simply failed because couldn't run Android Apps. Many developers couldn't be bothered to develop for a 3rd platform.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:44 PM)
That is the fact. Windows Phone had an app gap problem.
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Two different fact by you, so which one ?
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 29 2019, 12:55 PM)
China market > all
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 29 2019, 04:18 PM)
if huawei manage to pull up Hong Meng/Harmony OS, it will be a big threat for google in future for sure. What doesn't kill it make it stronger.

Don't forget Huawei has support of the government and they will strive in their local market.
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Google understands this perfectly and is trying to reason with Trump.
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QUOTE(gestapo @ Aug 29 2019, 04:46 PM)
Sked later ppl say jaguh kampung only
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Except this kampung is really huge one. See how all their jaguh kampungs spreading around the world. Lazada - Alibaba. Shopee - Tencent. GoJek - Tencent.
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It will be like Geely X70, sell within China 1st, then slowly export it.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Aug 29 2019, 04:45 PM)
Two different fact by you, so which one ?
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Its the same thing la..education fail.

Dr M says became education minister because there are ‘a lot of uneducated people
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Two different fact by you, so which one ?
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Both same unless you have a comprehension problem.
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:46 PM)
Google understands this perfectly and is trying to reason with Trump.
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China already give up negotiate with Trump, if Trump re-elected then China has to suffer another 4 years laugh.gif

If u ask me lah, US corporation will not give up China market due to the population, even costco creating impact on their first outlet at Shanghai laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Aug 29 2019, 04:54 PM)
True.

QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 04:54 PM)
Both same unless you have a comprehension problem.
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Hahhaha finally I know why.
End here.
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QUOTE(judehow @ Aug 29 2019, 12:53 PM)
time to stop buy huaaaaweeeiii , samsung and real mi  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  cool2.gif  rclxms.gif huawei battery not lasting  sweat.gif
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huawei bat not lasting?
dude my huawei device used for 2 years plus with 2-3 charges 4-5x per week since i play game a lot.
now still got 90% battery left healthy. what said u?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 29 2019, 04:59 PM)
China already give up negotiate with Trump, if Trump re-elected then China has to suffer another 4 years laugh.gif

If u ask me lah, US corporation will not give up China market due to the population, even costco creating impact on their first outlet at Shanghai laugh.gif
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By extension, all of us also have to suffer. Trump probably thought if China gives in, everyone else straightaway surrender. I think Trump should have targeted the smaller economies first.


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Where is that almighty hong meng?
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 05:07 PM)
By extension, all of us also have to suffer. Trump probably thought if China gives in, everyone else straightaway surrender. I think Trump should have targeted the smaller economies first.
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US still remain strong is their intellectual property like computer software, IT related. Look at their manufacturing side, almost most of it losing to China currrently with exception of Aircraft manufacturing (Boeing, airbus, bombardier) and chip processor.

On the current situation, everybody suffer for sure. Trump advisor would thought this is a good time to attack China because the winning percentage is higher, if fast forward to 5-10 years then US has lower winning chance, US has killed UK, Soviet Union and Japan in the past.

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There are google services installer for China phone without google services.

https://www.digitbin.com/google-installer-apk/

We had been using this for a long time.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Aug 29 2019, 05:02 PM)
huawei bat not lasting?
dude my huawei device used for 2 years plus with 2-3 charges 4-5x per week since i play game a lot.
now still got 90% battery left healthy. what said u?
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User problem. My huawei going to hit 5 years soon (my first phone to last more than a year) and it wasn't even flagship (honor 5x). Reach 5 years going to finally retire the phone cause old proc, lack of ram and space for this day and age. Next phone definitely going to be the huawei P30 without a doubt.

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Huawei plans to launch a new flagship phone even though it's banned from using Google’s Android

Huawei plans to forge ahead with the launch of new high-end smartphones in Europe even though it may not be able to offer Google's official Android operating system and widely used apps such as Google Maps, company executives told Reuters.

The world's No. 2 smartphone maker is set to unveil its new Mate 30 line of phones on September 18 in Munich, according to a source familiar with the matter, though it is not clear when the devices would go on sale.

The Mate 30, made to work on new 5G mobile networks, is Huawei's first major flagship smartphone launch since US President Donald Trump's administration effectively blacklisted the company in mid-May, alleging it is involved in activities that compromise US national security, a charge the company denies.

A Google spokesman told Reuters the Mate 30 cannot be sold with the licensed version of Android and associated Google apps and services due to the US ban on sales to Huawei. A temporary reprieve that the US government announced last week does not apply to new products such as the Mate 30, the spokesman said.

US companies can seek a license for specific products to be exempted from the ban. Google, a part of Alphabet Inc, would not say whether it had applied for a license for Android and the package of apps and services known as Google Mobile Services, though it has said in the past that it wants to continue supplying Huawei.

Reuters reported this week that the US Commerce Department has received more than 130 applications from companies for licenses to sell US goods to Huawei, but none have been granted.

The uncertainty surrounding the Mate 30 shows the confusion that reigns for Huawei and its business partners as a result of the escalating trade war between China and the United States. While the Huawei blacklisting was cast as a response to security concerns, President Trump has indicated it could be lifted as part of a trade deal.

"Huawei will continue to use the Android OS and ecosystem if the US government allows us to do so," Huawei spokesman Joe Kelly told Reuters. "Otherwise, we will continue to develop our own operating system and ecosystem."

The Commerce Department declined to comment.

Huawei can likely use an open-source version of Android without falling foul of the US ban on sales to them. But Google's apps can only be used under a paid license.

"Without Google Services, no one will buy the device," said independent analyst Richard Windsor. The Google software normally comes pre-loaded on Android devices.

Huawei earlier this month announced its own mobile operating system, dubbed Harmony. But analysts are skeptical that it is yet a viable alternative to Android.

As late as last week, senior Huawei executives struck a confident tone regarding Android and Google.

"Our new phones will still be based on Android," Vincent Pang, senior vice president and board director of Huawei, told a media gathering at the top of New York City's One World Trade Center, an iconic American symbol of perseverance.

"We want to maintain one standard, one ecosystem, one technology," he said.

Huawei is confident that other hardware in the new phone will be compliant with US law.

https://www.businessinsider.com/huawei-plan...ban-2019-8?IR=T

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QUOTE(bukankhadam @ Aug 29 2019, 02:02 PM)
i been wondering. y only huawei kena?
y other phone company like 1plus, asus, xiaomi tarak kena ini ban? all china geng rite? asus taiwan maybe
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Muricunt cannot compete in 5G
coz 5G can generate huge money from patent and license, like 4G doing
so they try to get it free from 5G leader Huawei
Huawei say fark off
so Muricunt angry wanna kill Huawei
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Aug 29 2019, 02:30 PM)
plan to get from physical store...
just hope got stock...
cos want to test the demo unit first....
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i know xiaomi not kena...
but who know future will not as trump lately abit crazy....
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XiaoMi 100% safe lah, coz XiaoMi dun have 5G technologies that Muricunt want
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 29 2019, 05:12 PM)
US still remain strong is their intellectual property like computer software, IT related. Look at their manufacturing side, almost most of it losing to China currrently with exception of Aircraft manufacturing (Boeing, airbus, bombardier) and chip processor.

On the current situation, everybody suffer for sure. Trump advisor would thought this is a good time to attack China because the winning percentage is higher, if fast forward to 5-10 years then US has lower winning chance, US has killed UK, Soviet Union and Japan in the past.
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I heard not much chip manufacturing left in the US. They mostly do design. Boeing definitely not doing well lately.

Soviet Union easily defeated by asking Saudi Arabia to boost oil production.

Not sure why Japan was that stupid to give in to the US demand to appreciate the yen.



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QUOTE(cringe @ Aug 29 2019, 01:55 PM)
Normal user don't have time or don't even know on how to install APK Playstore.
I also don't even know how to do it.

Only nerd nerd that know how to install that thing. Ain't nobody got so much time to do that
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wow.. you sure got lots of time to install fb/wa/tumblr/tinder/twitter/ig/messenger/grab/foodpanda/chrome/blah² on ur phone
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so will mate 30 be sold cheap to compensate?

if so then i will buy it and side load with google play services and some useful google apps.. "win win"...
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QUOTE(voltan @ Aug 29 2019, 04:26 PM)
huawei will prevail because big China market, as some said...yah yah yah...so funny... last time Windows phone got world market but still failed. ask yourself, without google, and those apps will u still buy the phone @ 3k++ ... if u still buy that idea.. good...without android n those US tech... Huawei will b dead meat very soon
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nothing is irreplaceable, just a matter of time
Huawei can still use profit from other divisions to support its mobile phone division, if they decide not to close it, until their own OS can stand on its own
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QUOTE(trusol @ Aug 29 2019, 05:22 PM)
I heard not much chip manufacturing left in the US. They mostly do design. Boeing definitely not doing well lately.

Soviet Union easily defeated by asking Saudi Arabia to boost oil production.

Not sure why Japan was that stupid to give in to the US demand to appreciate the yen.
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Oh forgot that chip manufacturing part mostly are at Korea or Taiwan.

Japan's ball was holding by US because they need US for their military protection, after WW2 they are not allow to have Army anymore mah.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Aug 29 2019, 05:02 PM)
huawei bat not lasting?
dude my huawei device used for 2 years plus with 2-3 charges 4-5x per week since i play game a lot.
now still got 90% battery left healthy. what said u?
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Mine man battery 3k m.a.h very fast finish
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Apa lagi,release itu Hong Meng la.
So we all can laugh at shitty Hong Meng.
1st thing they should change it name first.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 29 2019, 05:29 PM)
Oh forgot that chip manufacturing part mostly are at Korea or Taiwan.

Japan's ball was holding by US because they need US for their military protection, after WW2 they are not allow to have Army anymore mah.
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Giving in to US demands but let South Korea, Taiwan and China to take the lead. Now no more industrial leaders. I believe Japan must have really regretted it. Don't think China would be stupid enough to follow the same path.
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They actually named it as HarmonyOS
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QUOTE(Imkenashadowban @ Aug 29 2019, 05:35 PM)
Apa lagi,release itu Hong Meng la.
So we all can laugh at shitty Hong Meng.
1st thing they should change it name first.
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Harmony OS lah for the international market.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 29 2019, 04:33 PM)
Why not as easy as install apk? Other appstore also the same.
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If my memories are right, The last custom pure android os I flashed, i think is lollipop/jellybean which requires Google play services and there's tones of them, ranging from different API and based on chipset.

Imo, normal user don't want the hassle of finding the right APK. Especially when competitor are just as easy plug and play

But this was few years back, so I don't know if it's any different now.


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talking is pointless.. we will see then.. to all Huawei die hard fan
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QUOTE(voltan @ Aug 29 2019, 06:14 PM)
talking is pointless.. we will see then.. to all Huawei die hard fan
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make it more interesting want ?
i'm not interested in run nekkid but money will do ....
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Aug 29 2019, 05:28 PM)
nothing is irreplaceable, just a matter of time
Huawei can still use profit from other divisions to support its mobile phone division, if they decide not to close it, until their own OS can stand on its own
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in his mind HUAWEI just manufacturer phone la .....
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Aug 29 2019, 12:56 PM)
yes but if u can earn much more..

why stop at China?

but now thy have no choice...
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China just have to ban iphone then Huawei sales in CHina will make up for it...
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no google apps, then I wont be buying mate30. period.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 29 2019, 06:25 PM)
China just have to ban iphone then Huawei sales in CHina will make up for it...
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dont even need to ban.
huawei beat apple in china since 2015 12.6% VS 15.6% n never look bad.
2019 is 6.7% vs 37%.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 29 2019, 06:25 PM)
China just have to ban iphone then Huawei sales in CHina will make up for it...
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In China, iPhone is for poorfag.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Aug 29 2019, 06:37 PM)
dont even need to ban.
huawei beat apple in china since 2015 12.6% VS 15.6% n never look bad.
2019 is 6.7% vs 37%.
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Their patriotism is high..support local product..meanwhile in malaysia..
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QUOTE(yed @ Aug 29 2019, 07:37 PM)
Their patriotism is high..support local product..meanwhile in malaysia..
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patriotism is one thing, we need one GOOD product first ar, look at proton in 198X, everyone also support what ,,,,,
prices point, features and so on.
look at iphone ...
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 29 2019, 12:55 PM)
China market > all
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China people don't even like their own country product. If able to afford they go for Apple or Samsung.
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Aug 29 2019, 06:07 PM)
If my memories are right, The last custom pure android os I flashed, i think is lollipop/jellybean which requires Google play services and there's tones of them, ranging from different API and based on chipset.

Imo, normal user don't want the hassle of finding the right APK. Especially when competitor are just as easy plug and play

But this was few years back, so I don't know if it's any different now.
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I just installed Aptoide a month ago, smooth as hell. The thing is if Google wants a pie of Huawei's user, they will find ways to provide a proper apk. There will be a dedicated website where users can just to there to download, and there will be step by step instructions. Very simple.

I see this as a benefit, in a way that Huawei's phone will be made without Google bloatware and I can pick and choose what to install. Of course, that's assuming they don't come up with extra bloatware.
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Aug 29 2019, 07:44 PM)
patriotism is one thing, we need one GOOD product first ar, look at proton in 198X, everyone also support what ,,,,,
prices point, features and so on.
look at iphone ...
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Don't you worry. China's internal competition is enough to keep the companies there on their toes. They are not like Malaysia, different market and culture.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 29 2019, 07:57 PM)
Don't you worry. China's internal competition is enough to keep the companies there on their toes. They are not like Malaysia, different market and culture.
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yup .... they serious with their staff ...
i really admire their wisdom n vision, before that i don't understand why block international internet access now i all out to respect them.

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Aug 29 2019, 07:58 PM)
yup .... they serious with their staff ...
i really admire their wisdom n vision, before that i don't understand why block international internet access now i all out to respect them.
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Same reason why your beloved Murica subsidises their agriculture industry heavily and taxed foreign car imports.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 29 2019, 08:05 PM)
Same reason why your beloved Murica subsidises their agriculture industry heavily and taxed foreign car imports.
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So after November I no longer can update apps from playstore?

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bila mau release ah beng os ?
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QUOTE(Lyu @ Aug 29 2019, 08:10 PM)
So after November I no longer can update apps from playstore?
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No lar. Old Huawei phones will still work.
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Nice move. To shows china is not invincible. So no one can monopoly everything. Hope other country have something against US too, to prevent US being the untouchable.

More ppl gonna use this excuse to purchase iphone, haha. Apple ftw!
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Things will not get better while Trump is president.

Next election, he needs to be kicked out.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 29 2019, 07:56 PM)
I just installed Aptoide a month ago, smooth as hell. The thing is if Google wants a pie of Huawei's user, they will find ways to provide a proper apk. There will be a dedicated website where users can just to there to download, and there will be step by step instructions. Very simple.

I see this as a benefit, in a way that Huawei's phone will be made without Google bloatware and I can pick and choose what to install. Of course, that's assuming they don't come up with extra bloatware.
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for us, enthusiasm user, no problem. easy peasy
but just like i said, imo, most user are just normal user, which is just wanted to buy and use, without the fuss to install this and that follow this and that.


i doubt google will goes against the sanction tho.

but im seriously agree huawei to build something that can go toe to toes with ios/android.
samsung kinda realised the world far too dependent to the west, and developed bada and tizen.

hope and good luck to them

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In China Baido more power than google,


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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 29 2019, 08:22 PM)
No lar. Old Huawei phones will still work.
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Cukur...
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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Aug 29 2019, 09:32 PM)
In China Baido more power than google,
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Define power and y u think baidu more superior than Google?
Google are way better when compare to baidu.
Remember they ban Google for entering China 🤪
Now when US do that all cry mother father lol
Kek. China attitude can do to other when hit it own nose start barking 😂

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Aug 29 2019, 07:56 PM)
I just installed Aptoide a month ago, smooth as hell. The thing is if Google wants a pie of Huawei's user, they will find ways to provide a proper apk. There will be a dedicated website where users can just to there to download, and there will be step by step instructions. Very simple.
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There already is a dedicated site just for google services for all/most phones.

https://opengapps.org/

few problems though.

1. since huawei sends telemetry data of your phone activity to China, they prevent people from disabling this "feature" by locking the bootloader in the most extreme way, even by Chinese standards. so no, you still can't "install" gapps.

2. have you seen the process of rooting P30 Pro? laugh.gif

3. gapps are not like how it used to. it used to be "just an apk" but not anymore. if you want a reliable gapps, you need root access. and since huawei die2 will not give you root access.... seriously, if you wanna tinker with your phone, why did you get huawei? they are even worse than samseng's knox.

4. you wouldn't want to install some random apk when it comes to google play. seriously. it's not like last time when google play is just an app store.
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cannot sideload?


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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 29 2019, 12:55 PM)
China market is enough lol
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And you assume all people in China is buying Huawei?
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Aug 30 2019, 12:15 AM)
cannot sideload?
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Was wondering about that too

Many imported china phones doesn't come with any google services,yet ppl still buy them coz u can easily sideload google apps



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Things will not get better while Trump is president.

Next election, he needs to be kicked out.
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hell no.
most of the americans favour Trump now. look at the jobs he able to secure for americans.
Trump for another term, 98% confirm
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Aug 30 2019, 12:15 AM)
cannot sideload?
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last time can


maybe possible with pico gapps, but even if you can, google services are so complex now that you'll risk force closing gapps/google service every few secs without root access or recovery access.


consider that the main important "app" is not google play, but google service. last time can la, when google play is mostly its own app. now even fingerprint reader is "built in" inside google service that links with google play and others.


long story short, if consumers cannot push huawei/china to open their bootloader or even recovery, then don't bother.
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hell no.
most of the americans favour Trump now. look at the jobs he able to secure for americans.
Trump for another term, 98% confirm
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what jobs?
jobs in china did not goes to us,
they went to vietnam,
ban vietnam,
they goes to indonesia/thailand,
us is too expensive,
to be competitive,

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most dodgy app on playstore are made-in-china

if using chinese store, who noes how infected ur phone will be after 1 mo. of use
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Aug 30 2019, 01:00 AM)
what jobs?
jobs in china did not goes to us,
they went to vietnam,
ban vietnam,
they goes to indonesia/thailand,
us is too expensive,
to be competitive,
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you need to define, competitive for whom?

US citizens more than happy to buy made-in-us vs made-in-asia. Tat is why new consumer goods factories are being built in the USA

on profit, US company can always sell made-in-asia goods to asia and europe
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QUOTE(Redhunt @ Aug 30 2019, 01:44 AM)
you need to define, competitive for whom?

US citizens more than happy to buy made-in-us vs made-in-asia. Tat is why new consumer goods factories are being built in the USA

on profit, US company can always sell made-in-asia goods to asia and europe
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example,
iphone not manufacture in us,
explain why?
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Aug 30 2019, 02:06 AM)
example,
iphone not manufacture in us,
explain why?
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juz wait after tarriff kena a few more years

factory not like mushroom , can popup overnite
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QUOTE(Redhunt @ Aug 30 2019, 03:32 AM)
juz wait after tarriff kena a few more years

factory not like mushroom , can popup overnite
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apple is moving out of china,
and relocate to vietnam,
if they can build a factory in vietnam,
what is preventing them building one in us?
the answer is plain simple - cost,
worker salary in us is way higher than in vietnam,
also worker in us demands many benefits,
china/vietnam - no worker union,
productivity is higher than in us,

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How come no use hongmeng?

Btw pretty sure by then things get sort out

Murica need PRC more than other way
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Aug 30 2019, 01:00 AM)
what jobs?
jobs in china did not goes to us,
they went to vietnam,
ban vietnam,
they goes to indonesia/thailand,
us is too expensive,
to be competitive,
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did you even read the tariff news?
just bcos one single Apple factory moved from China to Vietnam and yet you concluded that no jobs secured.
study something more substance.
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Aug 30 2019, 12:21 AM)
And you assume all people in China is buying Huawei?
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and you assume Huawei only produce mobile phone?
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Aug 30 2019, 09:25 AM)
and you assume Huawei only produce mobile phone?
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and you assume USA only bans mobiles from Huawei?
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Who still use china phone in 2019? Seriously
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QUOTE(MPIK @ Aug 30 2019, 09:26 AM)
and you assume USA only bans mobiles from Huawei?
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show me which other mobile phone brand ban by Muricunt
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ah beng os gonna florish

eh wait isnt there android go for all phones
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QUOTE(jasonsuna1 @ Aug 30 2019, 09:27 AM)
Who still use china phone in 2019?  Seriously
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Those who can't afford to buy Samsung and Apple?

Those lower income people can afford China phone such as Xiaomi and other china brands
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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Aug 30 2019, 09:28 AM)
show me which other mobile phone brand ban by Muricunt
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I mean USA not only ban huawei phones but also other huawei hardware
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QUOTE(kllonely1 @ Aug 30 2019, 03:40 AM)
apple is moving out of china,
and relocate to vietnam,
if they can build a factory in vietnam,
what is preventing them building one in us?
the answer is plain simple - cost,
worker salary in us is way higher than in vietnam,
also worker in us demands many benefits,
china/vietnam - no worker union,
productivity is higher than in us,
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no China - enuf win liao

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