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TSfirefly3x
post Aug 27 2019, 11:58 AM, updated 6d ago

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Hi. Although I can change to new tyres, how can I prevent it in the future? Only front tyres have the problem (both sides). 3 years old less than 10k km, never done rotation before. Some say alignment is off, some say cos tyres already old. Some say didnt put enuff air. Thanks.

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post Aug 27 2019, 11:59 AM

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I thought its normal?
TSfirefly3x
post Aug 27 2019, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Aug 27 2019, 11:59 AM)
I thought its normal?
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Still can use if i do rotation? The cracks are scary.
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post Aug 27 2019, 12:08 PM

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tyres too old, those cracks are normal

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post Aug 27 2019, 12:10 PM

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If me... I will replace it ASAP.
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post Aug 27 2019, 12:11 PM

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Looks old. Mine same as you but really at the end, and the thread wear almost none thread.
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post Aug 27 2019, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(akib_mullen @ Aug 27 2019, 12:11 PM)
Looks old. Mine same as you but really at the end, and the thread wear almost none thread.
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My thread wear still alot. Back tyres are still in perfect condition. Only front is like that. Less than 10k km drive. Can replace all but just wana know if can prevent from happening.
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post Aug 27 2019, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 12:14 PM)
My thread wear still alot. Back tyres are still in perfect condition. Only front is like that. Less than 10k km drive. Can replace all but just wana know if can prevent from happening.
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Maybe you can check the tyre make date. Even you drive less than 10k but if the tyre itself is old so maybe that's why it is happening
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post Aug 27 2019, 12:23 PM

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Tread looks fine, but tyres appear underinflated.

Inflate to recommended pressure.

You must rotate your tyre in a X pattern.

Use also your spare tyre (if full size).


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post Aug 27 2019, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(akib_mullen @ Aug 27 2019, 12:19 PM)
Maybe you can check the tyre make date. Even you drive less than 10k but if the tyre itself is old so maybe that's why it is happening
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Already. 2016. Bought in 2016 so 3 years. Just that there might be something I am missing. Probably under inflate tires for the front.
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post Aug 27 2019, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Aug 27 2019, 12:23 PM)
Tread looks fine, but tyres appear underinflated.

Inflate to recommended pressure.

You must rotate your tyre in a X pattern. 

Use also your spare tyre (if full size).
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Yes I suspect is cos of under infiltrate too. Happened to my old tyres also (diff brand). Weird that the back tyres are still in perfect condition, just that this front ones are like that. Q is can i still use if i rotate? Or do i need to get new ones?

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post Aug 27 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 12:32 PM)
Yes I suspect is cos of under infiltrate too. Happened to my old tyres also (diff brand). Weird that the back tyres are still in perfect condition, just that this front ones are like that. Q is can i still use if i rotate? Or do i need to get new ones?
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Your front tyres suffer more wear because:

1. The front wheels are driven by the engine
2. The front wheels are also used for steering.
3. The fornt wheels are subject to more pressure due weight of the engine ,

No need new ones.

Just inflate and rotate.

Next time check and inflate your tyres once a month.




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post Aug 27 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 11:58 AM)
Hi. Although I can change to new tyres, how can I prevent it in the future? Only front tyres have the problem (both sides). 3 years old less than 10k km, never done rotation before. Some say alignment is off, some say cos tyres already old. Some say didnt put enuff air. Thanks.

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3 year old tyre with 10k km usage is still very good and fit to use some more . No need change to new tyres, wasting money.
What's the psi you use now ? Driver side door say how many psi?

Inadequate tyre pressure is likely in your case. Avoid 29/30 psi , go for 36 psi depending on your tyre specs on the side , that helps if you can provide pictures on date of manufacture and tyre specs.

With higher pressure, do rotation first to see whether same problem crops up later, before spending money now on alignment which may not be necessary especially no accident banging hard on tyre before.

Only do alignment if same thing happens after rotation was done with say, 36 psi.

Edit:Inadequate tyre 'pressure'

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post Aug 27 2019, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 12:04 PM)
Still can use if i do rotation? The cracks are scary.
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Cracks is on the thread area, still ok and safe to use. But check root of problem first.

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Tyres should go by age not mileage.
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post Aug 27 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 12:30 PM)
Already. 2016. Bought in 2016 so 3 years. Just that there might be something I am missing. Probably under inflate tires for the front.
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post Aug 28 2019, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 27 2019, 02:48 PM)
3 year old tyre with 10k km usage is still very good and fit to use some more . No need change to new tyres, wasting money.
What's the psi you use now ? Driver side door say how many psi?

Inadequate tyre is likely in your case. Avoid 29/30 psi , go for 36 psi depending on your tyre specs on the side , that helps if you can provide pictures on date of manufacture and tyre specs.

With higher pressure, do rotation first to see whether same problem crops up later, before spending money now on alignment which may not be necessary especially no accident banging hard on tyre before.

Only do alignment if same thing happens after rotation was done with say, 36 psi.
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Side sticker recommended 220 kpa or 31psi.

I used to pump at 200 due to some advise to pump lower than the recommended spec, thus my old tyres suffered the same fate like this, thus there must be my fault of doing it wrong. Lately I am pumping at 220/230 again when others commented that the car seems to have not enuff air. Asking around, many ppl advised that tyres need to change at the 2-3 years period, but I am not satisfied with the answer due to mine having low mileage (the older tires have almost 35k km in 3 years, so maybe its understandable that its worn out and i never rotate it before).

Thus i posted here to ask for more advise. Having little or no knowledge on tyres is really scary, scared of tyres blown and other horror stories. I did not rotate this tyre cos usually ppl advise to only rotate above 10k km.
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post Aug 28 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 28 2019, 09:20 AM)
Side sticker recommended 220 kpa or 31psi.

I used to pump at 200 due to some advise to pump lower than the recommended spec, thus my old tyres suffered the same fate like this, thus there must be my fault of doing it wrong.

That's underinflation, and very dangerous at prolonged high speed/distance traveling as tyre surely gets hot faster .... leading to tyre burst whilst in motion.


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Lately I am pumping at 220/230 again when others commented that the car seems to have not enuff air. Asking around, many ppl advised that tyres need to change at the 2-3 years period, but I am not satisfied with the answer due to mine having low mileage (the older tires have almost 35k km in 3 years, so maybe its understandable that its worn out and i never rotate it before).

That's a common myth spreading around.
Tyre manufacturer recommends tyre replacement only when tyre tread is 1.6 mm or 10 years post production in normal use.
My XM2 pair was replaced at about 115,000 km usage when tread depth was 2 mm , the tyre age was around 7 years.
Currently another pair of XM2 is at about 60000 km usage/tyre age about 4 over years all running at 300 kph (44 psi) where manual says Front 31 psi Rear 35 psi... ..... still in use with about 3-4 mm tread depth.Won't change them until 1.6 mm or so tread depth.

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I did not rotate this tyre cos usually ppl advise to only rotate above 10k km.
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I stopped rotating tyres a long long time ago, like some 10-15 years.

Bitog on tyre pressure.

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post Aug 28 2019, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 28 2019, 10:04 AM)
That's underinflation, and very dangerous at prolonged high speed/distance traveling as tyre surely gets hot faster .... leading to tyre burst whilst in motion.
That's a common myth spreading around.
Tyre manufacturer recommends tyre replacement only when tyre tread is 1.6 mm or 10 years post production in normal use.
My XM2 pair was replaced at about 115,000 km usage when tread depth was 2 mm , the tyre age was around 7 years.
Currently another pair of XM2 is at about 60000 km usage/tyre age about 4 over years all running at 300 kph (44 psi) where manual says Front 31 psi Rear 35 psi... ..... still in use with about 3-4 mm tread depth.Won't change them until 1.6 mm or so tread depth.

I stopped rotating tyres a long long time ago, like some 10-15 years.

Bitog on tyre pressure.
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Thanks for the infos, i guess i can call you sifu. Yes its a common myth to change tyres every 2-3 years. I know some even change after 2 years. Most of the time when i asked outsiders for advise, i usually got the answer that tyres are not that expensive, around RM500-RM600 for 4 tyres, and they see no reason not to change every 2-3 years and i should not be stingy.

So from the link u shared, i should pump slightly higher than recommended psi, correct? As the front tyres need to support engine, i notice that the tyres tend to sink slightly even after pumping air into it.
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post Aug 28 2019, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 28 2019, 10:25 AM)
So from the link u shared, i should pump slightly higher than recommended psi, correct?
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Yes.
At 260 kpa, you're in compliance with tyre manufacturer specs.
At 300 kpa, also in compliance.
Side marking on your tyre may allow up to 350 kpa maximum , which I see no reason to exceed it in real life .
Select a 'higher' pressure where ride harshness is fine/tolerable with you, whilst having FE.

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