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post Aug 27 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 11:58 AM)
Hi. Although I can change to new tyres, how can I prevent it in the future? Only front tyres have the problem (both sides). 3 years old less than 10k km, never done rotation before. Some say alignment is off, some say cos tyres already old. Some say didnt put enuff air. Thanks.

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3 year old tyre with 10k km usage is still very good and fit to use some more . No need change to new tyres, wasting money.
What's the psi you use now ? Driver side door say how many psi?

Inadequate tyre pressure is likely in your case. Avoid 29/30 psi , go for 36 psi depending on your tyre specs on the side , that helps if you can provide pictures on date of manufacture and tyre specs.

With higher pressure, do rotation first to see whether same problem crops up later, before spending money now on alignment which may not be necessary especially no accident banging hard on tyre before.

Only do alignment if same thing happens after rotation was done with say, 36 psi.

Edit:Inadequate tyre 'pressure'

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post Aug 27 2019, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 12:04 PM)
Still can use if i do rotation? The cracks are scary.
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Cracks is on the thread area, still ok and safe to use. But check root of problem first.

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post Aug 27 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 12:30 PM)
Already. 2016. Bought in 2016 so 3 years. Just that there might be something I am missing. Probably under inflate tires for the front.
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post Aug 28 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 28 2019, 09:20 AM)
Side sticker recommended 220 kpa or 31psi.

I used to pump at 200 due to some advise to pump lower than the recommended spec, thus my old tyres suffered the same fate like this, thus there must be my fault of doing it wrong.

That's underinflation, and very dangerous at prolonged high speed/distance traveling as tyre surely gets hot faster .... leading to tyre burst whilst in motion.


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Lately I am pumping at 220/230 again when others commented that the car seems to have not enuff air. Asking around, many ppl advised that tyres need to change at the 2-3 years period, but I am not satisfied with the answer due to mine having low mileage (the older tires have almost 35k km in 3 years, so maybe its understandable that its worn out and i never rotate it before).

That's a common myth spreading around.
Tyre manufacturer recommends tyre replacement only when tyre tread is 1.6 mm or 10 years post production in normal use.
My XM2 pair was replaced at about 115,000 km usage when tread depth was 2 mm , the tyre age was around 7 years.
Currently another pair of XM2 is at about 60000 km usage/tyre age about 4 over years all running at 300 kph (44 psi) where manual says Front 31 psi Rear 35 psi... ..... still in use with about 3-4 mm tread depth.Won't change them until 1.6 mm or so tread depth.

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I did not rotate this tyre cos usually ppl advise to only rotate above 10k km.
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I stopped rotating tyres a long long time ago, like some 10-15 years.

Bitog on tyre pressure.

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post Aug 28 2019, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 28 2019, 10:25 AM)
So from the link u shared, i should pump slightly higher than recommended psi, correct?
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Yes.
At 260 kpa, you're in compliance with tyre manufacturer specs.
At 300 kpa, also in compliance.
Side marking on your tyre may allow up to 350 kpa maximum , which I see no reason to exceed it in real life .
Select a 'higher' pressure where ride harshness is fine/tolerable with you, whilst having FE.

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post Aug 31 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Aug 27 2019, 11:58 AM)
Hi. Although I can change to new tyres, how can I prevent it in the future? Only front tyres have the problem (both sides). 3 years old less than 10k km, never done rotation before. Some say alignment is off, some say cos tyres already old. Some say didnt put enuff air. Thanks.

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Wait, are you using uni-directional aka Ultra High Performance tyres ?

If so, not sure if the tyres are pasang terbalik .

OP, care to provide tyre brand/model/size to see if it's UHP ?

Also indicates on pictures external sides and whether it is left side or right hand side front tyres .

Edit:Anyway it makes no difference to the underinflation issue at hand.

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post Aug 31 2019, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Aug 31 2019, 02:31 PM)
Wait, are you using uni-directional aka Ultra High Performance tyres ?

If so, not sure if the tyres are pasang terbalik .

OP, care to provide tyre brand/model/size to see if it's UHP ?

Also indicates on pictures external sides and whether it is left side or right hand side front tyres .

Edit:Anyway it makes no difference to the underinflation issue at hand.
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It is ok as silverstone powerblitz is assymetric , not unidirectional thread tyre.

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post Sep 3 2019, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ciypher @ Sep 3 2019, 11:05 AM)
Possible underinflation and high speed cornering?...
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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Sep 3 2019, 12:28 PM)
No. 1 yes. No. 2...errr....I am often a careful driver, but there again, maybe i do corner quite fast. You noticed the side wear and tear?
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External edge wear at front tyres can be explained by physics as valid as brought up by some posters above. This phenomenon could be further aggravated by any one or all of the following scenarios , namely:
a )hard and sharp cornering at higher speeds and rougher road surface during cornering,which may or may not be the case with TS;
b )Inadequate tyre pressure or heavier loads/passengers even if one follow OEM recommended tyre pressures displayed at driver side door pillar, which surely applies in TS case here; and/or
c )Incorrect alignment in having too much toe-in , which cost some $$$ to do now, or while changing new tyres in future.

IMHO, spending some $$$ to rotate tyres today (and more $$$ if alignment is done simultaneously today) is not quite worth it for the potential savings (but is not definite saving, mind you) in getting marginal 'extra' 3000-5000 km out of (low'ish RM buying price ) front tyre life, IF there is really such problems which I'm not convinced.

But, that's up to TS really ..... which I personally won't recommend spending $$$ today other than increasing front tyre pressure from very low'ish 200 kpa (vs OEM's 220 kpa) to say 230-260 kpa, and then observe or move from there.

Edit:I'm doing 280 kpa with Wira and 300 kpa with Avanza 1.3 currently.

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