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TSchaukeng
post Aug 9 2019, 05:33 PM, updated 7y ago

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As per topic, current tyre worn out, went to few tyres shop and all of them recommended me to change my 16 inch stock rim to aftermarket 15 inch rim for 195/55/15 tyres.

I have studied feedbacks from this and other forums and this is what I have gathered.

Pros: cheaper tyres, more protection for rims against scratches, better ride comfort and better fuel consumption.

Point is, does it makes sense to downgrade a larger size rim to a smaller one? And having to Topup in the process.

Fairly new to this part of expertise so any feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Thanks!
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post Aug 9 2019, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 9 2019, 05:33 PM)
As per topic, current tyre worn out, went to few tyres shop and all of them recommended me to change my 16 inch stock rim to aftermarket 15 inch rim for 195/55/15 tyres.

I have studied feedbacks from this and other forums and this is what I have gathered.

Pros: cheaper tyres, more protection for rims against scratches, better ride comfort and better fuel consumption.

Point is, does it makes sense to downgrade a larger size rim to a smaller one? And having to Topup in the process.

Fairly new to this part of expertise so any feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Thanks!
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It does make sense if you value the benefits that it provides. FYI for my son's Swift Sport, we also went thru downsizing from 17' (which was the size that came with it when we bought the car), to 16', and now finally to 15'. We absolutely love the transformation and not a single regret in going through this downsizing. Some people may say it doesn't make sense because it's smaller, looks worse or whatever but those are just subjective and not real. As long as you are ok with how it looks and you do value the benefits then by all means go ahead. Even though in the short term you may spend more to change rims but in the long term the cost of tires is much cheaper for 15'. You can also sell off your 16' to recover some of the cost.

Like now my my recent car purchase, I also want to down size from 18 to 17 as the 18' is ridiculously harsh due to the super thin profile tires on it.
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post Aug 9 2019, 05:45 PM

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Original GK 16 inch rim is enkei, if you change to aftermarket, you will get taiwan or thailand no brand
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QUOTE(sb53a @ Aug 9 2019, 05:45 PM)
Original GK 16 inch rim is enkei, if you change to aftermarket, you will get taiwan or thailand no brand
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Many Enkeis are also made in Taiwan or even Philippines or Indonesia. You can buy good branded Taiwan or Thailand rims like Enkei Tuning, Advanti, Konig, Lenso and it'll be better and lighter than the stock Enkei. Of course have to top up, nothing is for free but in the long run compensated by the much cheaper 15' tire price.
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post Aug 9 2019, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 9 2019, 05:50 PM)
Many Enkeis are also made in Taiwan or even Philippines or Indonesia. You can buy good branded Taiwan or Thailand rims like Enkei Tuning, Advanti, Konig, Lenso and it'll be better and lighter than the stock Enkei. Of course have to top up, nothing is for free but in the long run compensated by the much cheaper 15' tire price.
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Wonder if a RM1k to RM1.3K 15 inch rims will be a safe enough rims?

One of the shop offers me to Topup RM1.3K for Taiwan rims (can't rmb the brand but the rims are around RM1K), 4 15inch hankook tyres (again sorry can't rmb the model). But have to trade in my stock rims.
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post Aug 9 2019, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(sb53a @ Aug 9 2019, 05:45 PM)
Original GK 16 inch rim is enkei, if you change to aftermarket, you will get taiwan or thailand no brand
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Didn't know the original ones are from enkei. Anyway if I were to change to an aftermarket one, will definitely choose one that is better in quality (unless I can't afford it that is 😂)
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post Aug 9 2019, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 9 2019, 06:05 PM)
Wonder if a RM1k to RM1.3K 15 inch rims will be a safe enough rims?

One of the shop offers me to Topup RM1.3K for Taiwan rims (can't rmb the brand but the rims are around RM1K), 4 15inch hankook tyres (again sorry can't rmb the model). But have to trade in my stock rims.
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Decent 15' original rims like Konig, Advanti Storm, and Lenso are around 1.2-1.3k just for rims only. Now for good tires, say Hankook V12 Evo 2 is about rm165/pc so total is around 650-700. So total package should be about rm2k if buy all without trade in.

Now if they say you top up rm1.3k to get all that then it's pretty good actually coz stock 16' rims won't sell much. (FYI I sold my stock 16' Swift rims made by Enkei Japan for only rm550). BUT if they give fake rims (like those fake Thailand ce28/TE37/re30/rpf1 etc2) and even cheaper/lower class tires than that V12E2, then you might get conned! Coz those fake rims are much cheaper, only rm500-600/set for 15'. So just be careful coz I doubt they would give you those good rims with good tires and only top up 1.3k with trade in.

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post Aug 9 2019, 06:55 PM

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A lot of benefits from changing to 15" aftermarket rims.

Plenty of good tyre choices and cheaper too.
Better ride comfort.
Better fc.
Better looks (subjective)

But only get original rims like konig/advanti/lenso/enkei tuning. This rims should be lighter than your current rims. Most importantly, get the correct width & offset. If you get rims which are too wide, your tyres will scrub your fenders.

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post Aug 9 2019, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Aug 9 2019, 06:23 PM)
Decent 15' original rims like Konig, Advanti Storm, and Lenso are around 1.2-1.3k just for rims only. Now for good tires, say Hankook V12 Evo 2 is about rm165/pc so total is around 650-700. So total package should be about rm2k if buy all without trade in.

Now if they say you top up rm1.3k to get all that then it's pretty good actually coz stock 16' rims won't sell much. (FYI I sold my stock 16' Swift rims made by Enkei Japan for only rm550). BUT if they give fake rims (like those fake Thailand ce28/TE37/re30/rpf1 etc2) and even cheaper/lower class tires than that V12E2, then you might get conned! Coz those fake rims are much cheaper, only rm500-600/set for 15'. So just be careful coz I doubt they would give you those good rims with good tires and only top up 1.3k with trade in.
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Owner let me choose from any of the sport rims on display and they all priced around RM1K. Anyway I will confirm with him brands and model of rims and tyres.

I'm more inclined to change to 15 inch rims but I like my stock rim so much I can't find one that looks better 😂
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post Aug 9 2019, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Jonsnow68 @ Aug 9 2019, 06:55 PM)
A lot of benefits from changing to 15" aftermarket rims.

Plenty of good tyre choices and cheaper too.
Better ride comfort.
Better fc.
Better looks (subjective)

But only get original rims like konig/advanti/lenso/enkei tuning. This rims should be lighter than your current rims. Most importantly, get the correct width & offset. If you get rims which are too wide, your tyres will scrub your fenders.
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The one offered by my seller, he claimed is only half the weight of my stock rim. I guess 195 width should be the best choice for my car
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post Aug 9 2019, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 9 2019, 08:00 PM)
Owner let me choose from any of the sport rims on display and they all priced around RM1K. Anyway I will confirm with him brands and model of rims and tyres.

I'm more inclined to change to 15 inch rims but I like my stock rim so much I can't find one that looks better 😂
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 9 2019, 08:01 PM)
The one offered by my seller, he claimed is only half the weight of my stock rim. I guess 195 width should be the best choice for my car
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Hmm it's impossible that the weight is only half! Even the most expensive high tech rims will not achieve half the weight, that's bollocks! At best is it saves 40% of the weight. I also doubt at 1k you can get decent original lightweight rims, most likely overpriced fakes, so be careful there. Bring a weighing scale when shopping for rims. Take note of the brands we mentioned above and insist on them. Make sure also they don't give you shit tires like Continental CC6 or other low end models. Get minimum the Hankook V12 Evo 2.

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post Aug 10 2019, 03:01 PM

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Why you wanna change it? To improve comfort or save cost? Why not try fatter tires on 16". Getting a new rim won't save you much. As most tires can last about 60k which is 3 years for me.
I do agree your stock rim really looks nice. Outside really don't have similar design.
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QUOTE(chaukeng @ Aug 9 2019, 05:33 PM)
As per topic, current tyre worn out, went to few tyres shop and all of them recommended me to change my 16 inch stock rim to aftermarket 15 inch rim for 195/55/15 tyres.

I have studied feedbacks from this and other forums and this is what I have gathered.

Pros: cheaper tyres, more protection for rims against scratches, better ride comfort and better fuel consumption.

Point is, does it makes sense to downgrade a larger size rim to a smaller one? And having to Topup in the process.

Fairly new to this part of expertise so any feedbacks will be highly appreciated. Thanks!
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Assuming your stock size is 185/55/16 (from Honda website specs), swapping to 195/55/15 will lower your car only by 16mm. Comfort improvement will only be very marginal since both profile is 55. You might not even notice it. Only benefits are, cheaper tires and better cornering if that is your thing. Also, when your speedo reads 110km/h, you are actually at 107 km/h.

185 vs 195, does not necessarily gives better FC. On the contrary, it's the opposite due to wider contact patch with road. So, wider tires but perhaps lighter rims will just not make much difference to FC.

Digest all information provided by others and decide if that's what you want to do.
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post Aug 18 2019, 12:29 PM

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many jazz and city go for the famous advanti s1 flow forming cost around rm 1200 and light weight less than 5kg per pc.if the shop offer u advanti u can consider,otherwise if they offer u replica rim,they are not worth.because the replicas and hankook v2 are about rm 1100+ for new rims and tyres..so u need to check the exact rim model and tyre model to compare.

 

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