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post Sep 8 2019, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(adn6244 @ Sep 7 2019, 09:42 PM)
Thanks for the prompt response.

Tested debugging and various apps. Swap cable too. USB debugging didn't affect the usb out in my case.

Almost gave up and decided to try USB1.0  and it works.

Music finally coming out of the headphone!!
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That's great. Glad it worked out for you.
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post Sep 20 2019, 01:03 PM

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Hi Would the fella who reported our post on sharing a local review done by a Malaysian kindly let us know how this is a spam to begin with?

EDIT: Just as an update (that was removed), the folks from AudioFi has the very first review out for the UD130.

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post Oct 2 2019, 01:45 PM

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Just got this yesterday. Played fine on Windows10... On another computer with Windows 7, no such luck. Complained about no driver. Does Stoner have any windows 7 driver? I already installed the Savi Audio software but no such luck
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post Oct 2 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(raif @ Oct 2 2019, 01:45 PM)
Just got this yesterday. Played fine on Windows10... On another computer with Windows 7, no such luck. Complained about no driver. Does Stoner have any windows 7 driver? I already installed the Savi Audio software but no such luck
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Did you run as administrator before installation?

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post Oct 2 2019, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(StonerAcoustics @ Oct 2 2019, 03:17 PM)
Did you run as administrator before installation?

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Well at 1st I didn't then the 2nd time I did. Maybe I need to remove and install again.

Edit: After removing driver and installing it again, still no luck!! Anybody here has luck with windows7 and ud130?

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post Oct 2 2019, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(adn6244 @ Sep 7 2019, 01:33 PM)
Finally collected ud130 from the post office today.

I'm using Samsung Note 9, playing through UAPP connecting to ud130 with fiio CL06 cable. The app recognise the device and playback is running on the phone. I just couldn''t hear anything from the output.

LED flashed during boot up and off when UAPP continue playing. No indication whether it's low or hi gain as per the user guide.

Swap to the cable came with the device and connect it to the phone using the Samsung otg adaptor. Same result.

Tested it with hidizs ap60 pro too. Ud130 was detected by the player. Same behaviour as phone.

So for now I can't use it on the go with my phone or music player.

Did I do anything wrong or not doing something right to make it work with the phone? Or is Note 9 not supported? I am shocked if it isn't.

Went home test it using jriver and it's working fine. Low gain have to turn all the way to 2 o clock  to reach my usual listening loudness. Hi gain make the sound bigger at 1 o clock settling.

Sound musical and nice in the brief testing .

The device look solid and light for portable use. Slightly thicker than I have imagined but overall still happy with the physical size.
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I agree with you on the volume. I had to dial in to 3 oclock on low gain but as I understand from PM with Stoner the digital knob is different from analog. Yes, incremental increase after around 12 oclock increased the volume substantially so I never max on low gain. However what I don't understand is why high gain seem not to do much amplification?? If I was at 3 oclock on low, when high I expect at least I would be around 12 oclock, as it is the volume remained at slightly less than 3 oclock for me. Hopefully Stoner Acoustics engineers can take a look at this.

I tried also line out mode and I'm more than satisfied with its performance. I tried this on a pair of cheap usb speakers and they sound much louder compared to the sound coming out of my laptop headphone jack. The usb speakers has a volume controller so what I did was I set the usb speaker volume at a comfortable sound with ud130, then without changing the volume I take out the 3.5mm jack from ud130 and inserted it the laptop. I could hardly hear the sound. It was so soft from the laptop, so line out mode using the cheap usb speakers was a success. smile.gif .

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post Oct 2 2019, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(raif @ Oct 2 2019, 03:58 PM)
Well at 1st I didn't then the 2nd time I did. Maybe I need to remove and install again.

Edit: After removing driver and installing it again, still no luck!! Anybody here has luck with windows7 and ud130?
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This is certainly odd. The UD130's Audio Receiver dates back to Windows 7 Era!

Can you try it with USB Class 1.0?
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post Oct 2 2019, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(StonerAcoustics @ Oct 2 2019, 09:54 PM)
This is certainly odd. The UD130's Audio Receiver dates back to Windows 7 Era!

Can you try it with USB Class 1.0?
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I think this is a small issue for me as I don't use the computer with windows 7 to listen music. OK, one last try...the windows 7 is not connected to internet so during installation, does the installer try to connect to internet for file transfer etc.?

ps: I did try usb class 1.0

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post Oct 8 2019, 09:40 AM

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I am using win 10 and it's recognised straight away. Have not been able to use it lately due to work.

One thing I realised though...hard to find short micro to micro usb that guarantee work with ud130.

End up getting a otg adaptor and use the cable that comes with ud130. And not all phones work with the DAC. But this is the fault of Android then ud130.

So if u happen to find a really short and cheap micro to micro cable that work with ud130 and mobile phone, grateful if you could drop the link here.
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post Oct 8 2019, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(adn6244 @ Oct 8 2019, 09:40 AM)
I am using win 10 and it's recognised straight away. Have not been able to use it lately due to work.

One thing I realised though...hard to find short micro to micro usb that guarantee work with ud130.

End up getting a otg adaptor and use the cable that comes with ud130. And not all phones work with the DAC. But this is the fault of Android then ud130.

So if u happen to find a really short and cheap micro to micro cable that work with ud130 and mobile phone, grateful if you could drop the link here.
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You need an otg specific micro to micro for it to work as it requires a specific termination on the USB side of your phone.

This is why when u use an actual otg adapter with the original USB cable it works 😊
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post Oct 8 2019, 11:12 AM

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Haha I actually looked for one that tagged as otg and confirmed working with chord mojo. Unfortunately it doesn't work with all the mobile devices I have.

Ud130 work with pixel 3xl with fiio CL06, works even with Spotify.

Going to try it on Mi A2 lite soon.

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post Oct 8 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(adn6244 @ Oct 8 2019, 09:40 AM)
I am using win 10 and it's recognised straight away. Have not been able to use it lately due to work.

One thing I realised though...hard to find short micro to micro usb that guarantee work with ud130.

End up getting a otg adaptor and use the cable that comes with ud130. And not all phones work with the DAC. But this is the fault of Android then ud130.

So if u happen to find a really short and cheap micro to micro cable that work with ud130 and mobile phone, grateful if you could drop the link here.
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By pure luck I found out there are short micro-micro cables available for drone users. I looked up on Lazada for with keywords like drone micro usb and found a short one.

https://www.lazada.com.my/-i453452956-s6925...lFlag=true&mp=1

For some reason one side of connector is longer than the other. But it works fine.

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post Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM

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New UD130 user here. Thank to Stoner Acoustics for quick response.

Stingy person who using very old DAC and AMP setup before changing to this. laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2019, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(minizian @ Oct 10 2019, 12:13 AM)
New UD130 user here. Thank to Stoner Acoustics for quick response.

Stingy person who using very old DAC and AMP setup before changing to this. laugh.gif
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That's great. Thanks for the support.
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Is there an upgrade programme available? From UD125 to UD130? Hehe biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(StonerAcoustics @ Oct 10 2019, 10:53 AM)
That's great. Thanks for the support.
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I think the previous setup i have were much warmer/bassy. Which was quite noticeable when playing on Bass oriented headphone.

UD130 is more on neutral side right StonerAcoustics? Since i am stuck to one kind of setup for long time.

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post Oct 18 2019, 07:23 PM

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Hi, above is my setup to play Sony music player that has wmport.

A) Fiio L27 wmport to micro usb cable
B) Female to female micro usb cable
C) Micro C female to male micro usb adapter
D) Micro C male otg to type A female with power (female micro usb)
E) Micro usb male to Type A male cable (this cable is to power)
F) Cable that comes with ud130 (actually same type as E)

If anyone is wondering, the device underneath the sony player is another amp/dac which you can just ignore. Just sharing in case anyone wants to use ud130 with a Sony with wmport interface. smile.gif

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post Oct 18 2019, 11:06 PM

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Hi raif,
Nice! Though it's working for u, there are just too many cables on the table that my wife will approve.

What's the reason for not directly connect L27 to ud130? Is it because Sony do not have enough power to drive ud130?

That could be the reason why my player was detected but no sound from the DAC. Battery also drain noticeably faster when DAC is connected. Got to try the split cable one day.
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post Oct 20 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(adn6244 @ Oct 18 2019, 11:06 PM)
Hi raif,
Nice! Though it's working for u, there are just too many cables on the table that my wife will approve. 

What's the reason for not directly connect L27 to ud130? Is it because Sony do not have enough power to drive ud130?

That could be the reason why my player was detected but no sound from the DAC. Battery also drain noticeably faster when DAC is connected. Got to try the split cable one day.
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Yup, that's the reason, my Sony A45 doesn't have enough power or the L27 does not provide power connection otherwise it would be awesome. The E cable (to power) can use a power bank if you want. I'm waiting for another otg cable that could tidy up the connection. Will update you guys later if that is working. smile.gif

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post Oct 20 2019, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(raif @ Oct 18 2019, 07:23 PM)
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Hi, above is my setup to play Sony music player that has wmport.

A) Fiio L27 wmport to micro usb cable
B) Female to female micro usb cable
C) Micro C female to male micro usb adapter
D) Micro C male otg to type A female with power (female micro usb)
E) Micro usb male to Type A male cable (this cable is to power)
F) Cable that comes with ud130 (actually same type as E)

If anyone is wondering, the device underneath the sony player is another amp/dac which you can just ignore. Just sharing in case anyone wants to use ud130 with a Sony with wmport interface.  smile.gif
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That is a very impressive setup. We have a customer (Malaysian) in Singapore who runs both the UD125 and UD130 with a very clean separate power bank to his DAP/Phone setup as well

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