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 LYN Proton Wira Owners Club (Pro-WOC) v2, Come in and discuss about Wira

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post Aug 11 2007, 08:55 AM

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I tried the turtle wax lipstick.... it abble to hide the scratches.... but when wash it again... it came off......

Dun have much money to send workshop to polish... later polished... being scratched by those cats again......
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post Aug 11 2007, 09:32 AM

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dont waste so much money on the so called stabiliser bar.. instead, go for better brakes, suspension etc.. if ur car is wira 1.3, try to change front solid disc brake to ventilated disc.. most also buy a front, fender, rear only.. others i heard is lebih punya
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post Aug 11 2007, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 11 2007, 09:32 AM)
dont waste so much money on the so called stabiliser bar.. instead, go for better brakes, suspension etc.. if ur car is wira 1.3, try to change front solid disc brake to ventilated disc.. most also buy a front, fender, rear only.. others i heard is lebih punya
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the bar depend how u using mah.. if normal driving only den the front and rear is more than enuff d.... each bar also got their own function 1... it won simply come out wif nth function 1...
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post Aug 11 2007, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Aug 11 2007, 10:01 AM)
the bar depend how u using mah.. if normal driving only den the front and rear is more than enuff d.... each bar also got their own function 1... it won simply come out wif nth function 1...
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but the thing is, is the functionality of the bar obvious?
does that really help? if not, that means it is bad investment..
besides, those bar doesnt come cheap doh.gif
like i said, make some survey for bars which delivers best performance.. no point getting room bar, lower room bar etc as it doesnt really help much
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post Aug 11 2007, 12:44 PM

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I didn't try lower arm bar...but bought front and rear bars instead. The bar helps a great deal for me. What's wrong with making the car more firm during corners or high speed? The functionality of the bar was very obvious actually, on ANY bars you purchase. Why? Because Proton quality is very bad and you know it. They lack in a lot of areas that we don't know...you need to be an engineer for that.

The standard car we're all driving is actually borderline sufficient to get from point A to point B. Let's take the engine for example. Do you know how underpowered a 1.3 engine is for a car as heavy as the Wira? It sucks and my 1985 Ford Lazer (1.3 also) can go faster than this junk. I don't know about suspension or anything else but I'm sure that these minor upgrades are necessary depending on the way you drive.

Just ask yourself this question...would you want to continue driving your car knowing the tyres are completely worn out? I mean worn until the threads cannot be seen and is at risk of exploding anytime? It is still "borderline sufficient" to get you home brows.gif
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i tested my fren's car with those full set stabiliser bar & roll cage + adjustable suspension.....almost muntah on the way from kepong to cheras by mrr2 .....damn bumpy....but...really good handling....it will also effect on ur brakes indirectly...

btw...juz want to share...i do remove my power steering on my car....it really feel more powerful & lower fc....but...die loh when i parking~~ sweat.gif
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post Aug 11 2007, 11:43 PM

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Remove power steering sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Aug 11 2007, 11:43 PM)
Remove power steering sweat.gif
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what to do...power steering pump spoilt liao...planning to convert an engine....juz save the $$ lah~~~
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post Aug 12 2007, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Aug 11 2007, 12:44 PM)
I didn't try lower arm bar...but bought front and rear bars instead. The bar helps a great deal for me. What's wrong with making the car more firm during corners or high speed? The functionality of the bar was very obvious actually, on ANY bars you purchase. Why? Because Proton quality is very bad and you know it. They lack in a lot of areas that we don't know...you need to be an engineer for that.

The standard car we're all driving is actually borderline sufficient to get from point A to point B. Let's take the engine for example. Do you know how underpowered a 1.3 engine is for a car as heavy as the Wira? It sucks and my 1985 Ford Lazer (1.3 also) can go faster than this junk. I don't know about suspension or anything else but I'm sure that these minor upgrades are necessary depending on the way you drive.

Just ask yourself this question...would you want to continue driving your car knowing the tyres are completely worn out? I mean worn until the threads cannot be seen and is at risk of exploding anytime? It is still "borderline sufficient" to get you home brows.gif
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it is like saying why buy proton knowing the risk in teh 1st place biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jssim @ Aug 11 2007, 11:40 PM)
i tested my fren's car with those full set stabiliser bar & roll cage + adjustable suspension.....almost muntah on the way from kepong to cheras by mrr2 .....damn bumpy....but...really good handling....it will also effect on ur brakes indirectly...

btw...juz want to share...i do remove my power steering on my car....it really feel more powerful & lower fc....but...die loh when i parking~~ sweat.gif
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bumpy-ness caused by stiff absorber.. nothing to do with the bars.. but that definitely contributing to loose parts sooner or later.. like ngek ngek sound come from nowhere laugh.gif
removing power steering is the most 'powderful' changes i ever heard tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jssim @ Aug 11 2007, 11:40 PM)
i tested my fren's car with those full set stabiliser bar & roll cage + adjustable suspension.....almost muntah on the way from kepong to cheras by mrr2 .....damn bumpy....but...really good handling....it will also effect on ur brakes indirectly...

btw...juz want to share...i do remove my power steering on my car....it really feel more powerful & lower fc....but...die loh when i parking~~ sweat.gif
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u won feel much different of the bar if wif the adjustable. if ur ride is stock absorber will feel much than it...
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 12 2007, 12:30 AM)
it is like saying why buy proton knowing the risk in teh 1st place biggrin.gif
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if I had money to buy a Ferrari I would have long ago whistling.gif
I picked the Wira among a list of budget cars...Kelisa / Kancil / Satria...then finally the Wira. My first choice was the Kelisa but it was just as expensive and has less room. Not to mention "safer" than Wira...if you wanna die faster tongue.gif Wira was just the most practical choice among all of them. Has the best boot space and can fit your family and for the same amount of cash. I will admit my only fault in buying the car was getting a 1.3cc...beautifully underpowered doh.gif
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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 12 2007, 12:30 AM)
it is like saying why buy proton knowing the risk in teh 1st place biggrin.gif
bumpy-ness caused by stiff absorber.. nothing to do with the bars.. but that definitely contributing to loose parts sooner or later.. like ngek ngek sound come from nowhere laugh.gif
removing power steering is the most 'powderful' changes i ever heard tongue.gif
no offence
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its the stiffness of the joints and roll cage plus absorbers la..

all contributes.


Added on August 12, 2007, 2:46 pm
QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Aug 11 2007, 12:15 PM)
but the thing is, is the functionality of the bar obvious?
does that really help? if not, that means it is bad investment..
besides, those bar doesnt come cheap doh.gif
like i said, make some survey for bars which delivers best performance.. no point getting room bar, lower room bar etc as it doesnt really help much
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how long has this fender bar emerged in auto industry?? WRC?? aprc???

the only bar that is obvious is ARB

This post has been edited by miragers: Aug 12 2007, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(miragers @ Aug 12 2007, 02:45 PM)
its the stiffness of the joints and roll cage plus absorbers la..

all contributes.


Added on August 12, 2007, 2:46 pm
how long has this fender bar emerged in auto industry?? WRC?? aprc???

the only bar that is obvious is ARB
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of coz, anti roll bar is the most prominent upgrade for struts.. in the same time, the most expensive 1..

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post Aug 12 2007, 05:59 PM

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normal wat...pay for quality...
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post Aug 13 2007, 08:31 PM

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Erm guys,is it normal for the idling rpm to stay around 900-1000 after i clean my throttle body?
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post Aug 13 2007, 10:22 PM

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so high ar... i think u nit to adjust the throttle. normal is at 700 1..
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post Aug 13 2007, 10:33 PM

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last time mine is around 500 or less but alwiz engine die...so i went to clean my tb...
now the rpm is like that liao...will it return to 700 within feww days?
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mine worse
i can see my rpm with aircond idle at almost 200 rpm but the car still wont jerk
but when it reach til almost 0 rpm then only it jerk abit
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I don't know where mine is...stupid thing got no RPM meter doh.gif
I have a question about level of black oil...since everyone here is using the same car, on the "oil stick"...where is the max level for the oil? Is it on the "max bar" or the "actual Max" mark I put on the pic? My level is currently in between the two marks and feels really hard to run. I suspect the mechanics overfilled my car sad.gif

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post Aug 13 2007, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Killerz622 @ Aug 13 2007, 10:33 PM)
last time mine is around 500 or less but alwiz engine die...so i went to clean my tb...
now the rpm is like that liao...will it return to 700 within feww days?
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u better take back to ur mech to adjust it....

QUOTE(kazami13 @ Aug 13 2007, 10:52 PM)
mine worse
i can see my rpm with aircond idle at almost 200 rpm but the car still wont jerk
but when it reach til almost 0 rpm then only it jerk abit
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impposible tat low la... less than 500 already jerk d...

QUOTE(young_soul @ Aug 13 2007, 11:08 PM)
I don't know where mine is...stupid thing got no RPM meter doh.gif
I have a question about level of black oil...since everyone here is using the same car, on the "oil stick"...where is the max level for the oil? Is it on the "max bar" or the "actual Max" mark I put on the pic? My level is currently in between the two marks and feels really hard to run. I suspect the mechanics overfilled my car sad.gif
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urs is 1.3? mayb u can change the meter to 1.5 meter den will got rpm d....

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