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SUSTheRant
post Jul 9 2019, 12:47 PM, updated 7y ago

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What do you guys think. Do you think it's worth studying overseas. Would it be better if we use that money for investment OK n the first place.
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post Jul 9 2019, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jul 9 2019, 12:47 PM)
What do you guys think. Do you think it's worth studying overseas.  Would it be better if we use that money for investment OK n the first place.
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My late father who only studied up till form 5 told me that the reason why he saved up his money to sent me to study abroad is for me to see the world, be exposed to people, culture and life outside of Malaysia. It's not so much the actual education itself. He said it will help me become a better man. cry.gif
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jul 9 2019, 12:57 PM)
My late father who only studied up till form 5 told me that the reason why he saved up his money to sent me to study abroad is for me to see the world, be exposed to people, culture and life outside of Malaysia. It's not so much the actual education itself. He said it will help me become a better man. cry.gif
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You dun have to study to do that.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jul 9 2019, 01:01 PM)
You dun have to study to do that.
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if not how then? how do you get this same experience? pray tell.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jul 9 2019, 01:05 PM)
if not how then? how do you get this same experience? pray tell.
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1. Work overseas.
2. Working holiday.
3. Travel by yourself
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jul 9 2019, 01:06 PM)
1. Work overseas.
2. Working holiday.
3. Travel by yourself
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lol. are you talking from the context of a working adult now? i was talking more from the schooling age. in any case, i don't think you get it.

if you are a working adult thinking about going back to school, you take up something that adds value to your career path i feel. what do i know? it's your money, so there is no right or wrong decision.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jul 9 2019, 12:57 PM)
My late father who only studied up till form 5 told me that the reason why he saved up his money to sent me to study abroad is for me to see the world, be exposed to people, culture and life outside of Malaysia. It's not so much the actual education itself. He said it will help me become a better man. cry.gif
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True what if u never go outside u donno what going on out side mal. We been brainwash for too long dy. Our sejarah book keep say we multiculture veru unic padahal not a big deal at oversea ppl dont make a fuss about this kinda things. The list go on and on and on
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(thurtin @ Jul 9 2019, 01:12 PM)
lol. are you talking from the context of a working adult now? i was talking more from the schooling age. in any case, i don't think you get it.

if you are a working adult thinking about going back to school, you take up something that adds value to your career path i feel. what do i know? it's your money, so there is no right or wrong decision.
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No. I am talking in terms of schooling age. That money you saved by not going overseas. If you put in fd would probably cover your working years for quite a number of years.

In the past when education fees were not so expensive and you can actually cover them by working part time like my father did. I agree.


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post Jul 9 2019, 01:21 PM

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Im almost 50, to me studying for my Undergraduate degree in Canada was the most eye opening and best times of my life.

I had an opportunity to study for my diploma in local government university before going abroad. So I know how our local universities are.

I then did my Masters part time in Malaysia (but I did see how doing Master is so different from doing undergraduate degree in Canada, most of the time you
have to work independently) whereas for undergraduate group discussion is important.

In my working life, I did have short term assignments overseas. People tend to say working overseas, holiday is the same thing as studying overseas, I disagree.
It is a different type of experience

This post has been edited by thirumaran: Jul 9 2019, 01:22 PM
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jul 9 2019, 01:14 PM)
True what if u never go outside u donno what going on out side mal. We been brainwash for too long dy. Our sejarah book keep say we multiculture veru unic padahal not a big deal at oversea ppl dont make a fuss about this kinda things. The list go on and on and on
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How sure are you that the education you receive is not brainwashing you.

In fact, I think the fact that a parent can somehow justify spending 300-400k in education requires some brainwashing.

Realistically, how long will it take to earn that money? And not just that money but the interest as well.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jul 9 2019, 01:26 PM)
How sure are you that the education you receive is not brainwashing you.

In fact,  I think the fact that a parent can somehow justify spending 300-400k in education requires some brainwashing.

Realistically,  how long will it take to earn that money?  And not just that money but the interest as well.
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The brainwashing stage at ealry la not uni zzz
300-400k if u grad and work oversea 1-2 yr back dy if u back mal good luck getting that money back.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jul 9 2019, 01:31 PM)
The brainwashing stage at ealry la not uni zzz
300-400k if u grad and work oversea 1-2 yr back dy if u back mal good luck getting that money back.
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Well. The fact that you think that everything that is taught uni is factual is already some kind of brainwashing.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:37 PM

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Yes and is not about the education alone.
See how big is the world and living in another country can have the profound life-changing experience to anyone. it let you know about the world and more importantly, about yourself.

You cant receive the same experience with a short visit to another place.

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post Jul 9 2019, 01:41 PM

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I studied in oversea and I will say yes too to my future kids

See the world is one thing. Self development and learning how to be independent is priceless
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(thirumaran @ Jul 9 2019, 01:21 PM)
Im almost 50, to me studying for my Undergraduate degree in Canada was the most eye opening and best times of my life.

I had an opportunity to study for my diploma in local government university before going abroad.  So I know how our local universities are.

I then did my Masters part time in Malaysia (but I did see how doing Master is so different from doing undergraduate degree in Canada, most of the time you
have to work independently) whereas for undergraduate group discussion is important.

In my working life, I did have short term assignments overseas.  People tend to say working overseas, holiday is the same thing as studying overseas, I disagree.
It is a different type of experience
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I never had the chance of studying oversea so i'm really interested on the experiences. Mind elaborate a little bit more? What's the difference of having to study for your degree in oversea vs study locally. What are the significant benefit someone could have for studying abroad for maybe 2-3 years and how would that affect your working life or what advantages you have?

i heard a lot of story that, even though they are oversea studying some of them still socialize with the same group of ppl (Malaysian) end up nothing has change (language capability, mindset, perspective, still shy, etc) Again, i'm saying just some and not all of them....
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QUOTE(TheRant @ Jul 9 2019, 01:35 PM)
Well. The fact that you think that everything that is taught uni is factual is already some kind of brainwashing.
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I donno in engineering what can u brainwash.....
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pichu00 @ Jul 9 2019, 01:56 PM)
I donno in engineering what can u brainwash.....
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OK. Why do you need to study your engineering degree overseas then.
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post Jul 9 2019, 02:08 PM

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[quote=khan,Jul 9 2019, 01:45 PM]I never had the chance of studying oversea so i'm really interested on the experiences. Mind elaborate a little bit more? What's the difference of having to study for your degree in oversea vs study locally. What are the significant benefit someone could have for studying abroad for maybe 2-3 years and how would that affect your working life or what advantages you have?
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The local Msian university I studied at had a computer lab which had supports hundreds of students.  The Canadian University I attended had
only 20 students in my class and there were more than 20 computers in the lab (this is just one specific Engineering faculty).

You also have access to the lecturers almost any time as they are all working on some research papers themselves.

In terms of knowledge gained, I think Msian Universities are good, it's just that you are forced to interact and express yourself more over there.

I think you learn to adapt and mix better, even more so if you have to work and support yourself there.  And manage your finances better.

i heard a lot of story that, even though they are oversea studying some of them still socialize with the same group of ppl (Malaysian) end up nothing has change (language capability, mindset, perspective, still shy, etc) Again, i'm saying just some and not all of them....
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This part is correct. At my Uni, there were hardly any Malaysians at that time. For first and final semester, I stayed at the dorm so I mingled with the locals.
In between, I stayed outside uni with a bunch of Canadians who never mingled with a Malaysian before. Note this was way back in 1993. For Christmas
and Thanksgiving, I got to stay with their families and really experience what it was like for them.

If you are going abroad, make sure you mingle with the locals there.

This post has been edited by thirumaran: Jul 9 2019, 02:09 PM
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post Jul 9 2019, 02:26 PM

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Yes its worth it. You can always earn money but not the exposure that studying overseas will bring you.

Money only carry value if you use them. So why not use money in exchange for experience and knowledge
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post Jul 9 2019, 02:27 PM

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