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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Aug 16 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 16 2019, 01:17 PM)
Just my preference after examining the three funds financial statements
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can share more how you examine kah? i hope not based on total income.
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post Aug 16 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 16 2019, 04:23 PM)
Based on my profession as a chartered accountant FCCA.  tongue.gif

The article I attached already shed some lights on why I only choose ASM and ASM2. I will not go into details as many people here are trying hard to get into ASx whether ASM, ASM2 or ASM3
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ahhh ok. John also has minimal exposure to ASM3 for unknown reasons. I blindly followed him tongue.gif Other than that, it was very easy to get ASM3 back then, so I focused on the more difficult ASM1 and ASM2 first. I think ASM2 safest since it has bumi reserved quota.
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post Aug 16 2019, 05:28 PM

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Pada 21 Februari 2019, saiz ASM yang dibenarkan telah ditingkatkan dari 19.843 bilion unit kepada 23.50 bilion unit.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 06:21 PM)
for dividend reinvestment purposes only...

so how much they add also.. unless existing unit holders sell.. we cannot buy  biggrin.gif
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But you always say cannot/difficult to get approval to enlarge the fund?

No market crash, no sale. But yes sale if willing to buy with VP bundle.
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post Aug 16 2019, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 08:25 PM)
Did I said that? 🤔🤔

Normally I says SC don't want give approval for new FP funds 😑
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Remember the suspension theory for ASM 1?

If major market crash, I can't think of a reason not to. Of course, there's plenty of room left for ASM 3 before the needs of a new FP fund. ASM 3 was launched in the midst of the last global financial crisis right?
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post Aug 16 2019, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 08:47 PM)
Around 2009 like that... But that bursa already up halfway.... So if now, there's crash.. first to badly hurt is the fund.  No wonder @ ikanbilis boss reduce his exposure 😁

Least affected is ASW 💪 since fund size is big, also entry cost lower overall....
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He said based on financial report and that screenshot.

About ASW, not 100% sure unless it has a lot of reserves. Most profit already returned as dividend, unless low entry cost and unsold != Profit, therefore they can cash out any time for a huge profit from 1996.
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post Aug 17 2019, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Aug 16 2019, 09:29 PM)
100% sure it is top 10 shareholders of Maybank. It might don't have profit, but definitely got assets (to sell if needed).
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if they bought near the bottom of the crash, by KLCI, around 6000-8000% gain now. so anytime can sell to realize the gain.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 09:38 PM)
One problem with the find is the lack of information on the shareholding... They just print top 20 investee companies only...

I'm think they got still some leftovers reserved... Not very huge I guess... They don't print that info anymore...so we can just speculate only 😑
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if everything show you, you can start Amanah Saham Nexona 88 already loh.

Leftover got mention in the annual report la. you promised me you'd do a second reading for me but never did tongue.gif They said something like minimal cash holdings, and I think they gave the figure also.

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 17 2019, 07:48 AM)
Anyhow.. Dividend announcement is near... With Major shareholding Maybank cannot recognized already.. Seriously how the dividend rate would be...
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They hardly fluctuate much from each other. I assume 5-5.7%. ASB 3, though a growth fun, gave 5.25%. ASM 1 5.5%. +- 0.2% from lowest and highest based on past records.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 17 2019, 01:02 PM)
Just as I expected...
Since banks close... Unless asnb system have some bug.. and release some units 😑😒
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Post office open mah. It just shows that people not bothered to go post office to sell on weekends.

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post Aug 17 2019, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 17 2019, 03:53 PM)
Maybe many don't know pos msia can do ASx transactions??
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don't know oh. have to ask how many people here sold at post office before loh.

I think prefer bank because no need carry cash around.
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post Aug 18 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 18 2019, 02:55 PM)
I saw that there's some quiz for asnb. Anyone can share link?
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i don't have answer for you. Now that you mentioned it, I vaguely recalled seeing this somewhere a month ago or so but pretty sure I don't qualify, so I did not search further.
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QUOTE(coolgoh98 @ Aug 18 2019, 10:23 PM)
just want to check what is the auto labur thing in the myasnb ??
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if you read carefully, it says for ASB only. autobuy ASB for bumi by deducting from savings account.
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post Aug 19 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Aug 19 2019, 09:15 AM)
this morning i was able to enter the fpx screen, after select bank and proceed, it went to the asnb main screen WTH !
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i can just say, get used to it. encountered all sorts of weird problems that prevented me from paying when I strike since day 1.

just hope it wasn't a big amount.

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post Aug 19 2019, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Aug 19 2019, 10:16 AM)
not only me kena ka...
btw i was fishing ASM2
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bad girl....you're my ASM 2 challenger la tongue.gif

i didn't kena. was probably brushing teeth when you kena tongue.gif

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post Aug 19 2019, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(INTEGRITYXXXXX @ Aug 19 2019, 01:49 PM)
Hello all, am i right to assume that it is easier to get ASM compared to ASW or AS1M because the latter 2 are maturing soon so people are less likely to sell?
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no. it's easier to get ASM 1 because every citizen is allowed to buy it. total units floating is around 20b.

ASM2 has racial quota, so total available for nonbumi is only like 10b. ASM3 no quota but total issued units around 11b.
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QUOTE(rojakwhacker @ Aug 19 2019, 02:16 PM)
How about bumi? Info all bumi and non-bumi as well devil.gif
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what u mean info? by default, i assume bumiputeras and bumiputeris can buy the nonbumi portion if theirs are fully subscribed. but they have little reason to even bother with ASMx unless they max out their ASBx.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 19 2019, 03:53 PM)
u talking about ASM2 right... they can buy non bumi portion ahh?
it's news to me..

if ASM1 yes. it's open to all.. but ASM2 & 3? walao... double chance yo..
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http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/produk/PHS/FP/2...ASM2_270918.pdf

Fund Allocation
Minimum of 51% of the approved fund size is for eligible Malaysian Bumiputera, while the remaining 49% is for eligible Malaysians.

I didn't say ASM3 oh. ASM3 no quota. Total ASM3 issued units only around 11b.

Double loh.....membership has its privileges. You can become bumiputera also yo. Or, in EPF you trust

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 19 2019, 06:19 PM)
Sudah Maju wor...  biggrin.gif
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Yeh, saw that earlier today. Here's the problem - debit card is linked to your savings. Between buy at home online and goto the 5 branches, most will probably just buy home. They colored the debit card word, worry you misread as credit card.
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post Aug 19 2019, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 19 2019, 06:32 PM)
well there's still people without MyASNB access.. I mean didn't register them..
so it's like giving them choice  biggrin.gif
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if want to give choice, give agent banks loh.

dont know oh. i just feel this is very redundant. go agent bank use debit card easier than all the way to ASN office.

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Aug 19 2019, 06:44 PM)
Agent spam vs MyASNB spam got different ar  hmm.gif
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agent spam no need catcha, endless possibilities attempts without a single catcha
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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 20 2019, 09:00 AM)
I see.... So if I want to start buying ASNB units, I will go to an ASNB agent and check first if there are units available? Or is it usually there will always be some units available to buy?
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you could, but it's not "efficient". Just get yourself signed up at the "MyASNB.com.my" site and start buying on your own through that site.

usually there will always be NO units available to buy

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