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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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post Aug 20 2019, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Aug 20 2019, 09:39 AM)
no unit how to topup  blink.gif
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post Aug 20 2019, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Aug 20 2019, 09:51 AM)
i see, it's pointless to non bumi who want fixed price fund
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haha. change your mindset a bit. They have a business to run. Even ASB 2 and 3 also subjected to unit availability.
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post Aug 20 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Aug 20 2019, 09:59 AM)
better than they no offer debit card at all.
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ahhh yeah true also. there is a limit to physical cash purchase. debit card lifts that limit and dont need to carry so much cash.
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post Aug 20 2019, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Aug 20 2019, 10:19 AM)
no really, depend terminal accept prepaid card. If no accept prepaid card, they will no accept big pay.
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really? I thought them terminals are only network specific, i.e. as long as Visa, Mastercard, Amex then can already. only limit is your BP is only 10k max at any time and 10k max topup from credit card. after that, it's cash.

if you guys can convince them to swipe your credit card, i think it'll work. but this'll go back to the original problem where not enought units available.

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post Aug 20 2019, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Aug 20 2019, 10:37 AM)
yes, there are few type of card which is prepaid card, debit card, credit card

If u are read those forum in lowyat for finance, u should know.
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no, i mean the terminals, not cards. BigPay can be used everywhere almost the moment they're launched. So it means that the terminals do not need to be patched to accept Prepaids, which also mean that as long as a terminal can read Debit Cards, they can read Prepaid and Credit cards.

Perhaps someone can try convince them with credit cards on their next visit. i'm quite sure they will decline. otherwise, they would've allowed credit card payment in FPX
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QUOTE(INTEGRITYXXXXX @ Aug 20 2019, 01:35 PM)
is it normal to get directed to 'portfolio' page while captcha-ing? happens to me several times already
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yes, consider yourself lucky if you don't get logged out and have to wait 15 mins.
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post Aug 20 2019, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Aug 20 2019, 09:07 PM)
Shouldn't be ASM2, every 1 is waiting for the dividend smile.gif
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i wasted half a day trying for ASM2. Strike 100 but decided to cancel to avoid messing up my total amount. Almost sure it's not ASM2 tongue.gif

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post Aug 20 2019, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Aug 20 2019, 09:42 PM)
rm100 not significant for you leh, won't mess up la tongue.gif
but the chances is extremely low  whistling.gif , better focus on ASM1 or ASM3
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it'll become xx100 loh. next time if i want to count lazy keep track. if 500 ok la can keep.
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post Aug 20 2019, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Aug 20 2019, 09:49 PM)
But after 31Aug your figure also mess up wo doh.gif
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to be precise, i only count back money I put in. Normally make sure not missing during FPX-to-ASN there. Last time sometime x00, then 1000, then y00, then 1000, then z00. when I count back, difficult to round up.

after Aug 31, likely I'll buy oddlot to round it back loh.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 21 2019, 01:11 PM)
Ha, my thinking exactly. If everyone is rational and don't sell, how are we going to buy our units?

We lose future dividends no matter which fund we choose to sell. And the accrued dividend will still be paid even if they sell part of the fund.
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1. ASN can release new units if required.

2. there are approximately 20b+20b+11b = 51b units floating. divide by 100, you still have 510m x 100 units each. what's the probability that not a single soul sell 1 unit out of 510m? ASM2 is 23 years old. until today, it's still buyable today.

3. if everyone is as rational as Bill Gates, there is no need to buy ASN. we create our own Microsoft.
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post Aug 21 2019, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Aug 21 2019, 01:35 PM)
You missed my point. Nvm.
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i got your point la. you're saying that people will still sell when the needs arise ler mah. regardless of dividends or not.
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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Aug 22 2019, 01:11 PM)
If I go to OTC ASNB branch, the RM15 can pay cash? So just less RM1K.
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i don't think so, but I could be wrong. why don't you give them a call?

existing transfer (before online transfer feature recently) also say deduct $15 from ASN account, not pay cash.
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post Aug 23 2019, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Aug 23 2019, 09:33 AM)
is myasnb going to open for labur on 1st Sept?
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it's already open the day you saw it. and it's stated, for ASB only.
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post Aug 23 2019, 01:39 PM

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maybe can try ask in Garage Sales? people here are mostly nett buyers
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post Aug 23 2019, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Aug 23 2019, 06:06 PM)
Soon we will see more sellers, fighting with lower rates, maybe even saw in shopee.

Then heard cases that someone get scammed, and PNB removes this feature.
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I thought of shoppee too. but it's probably too costly. Heard shoppee charges 2% commission. if seller wants another 2%, i doubt anyone would buy.

and ultimately when PNB finds out, they'll either disable it or add more restrictions. Without online, people can use the traditional way. I think the light blue form.
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QUOTE(daimon @ Aug 23 2019, 10:53 PM)
if buy/sell at RM1.... then how this investment help us to gain money?

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what he mean is, Income Distribution aka Dividend at around 5.5% every year.

For most mutual funds, you have to pay commission when you trade. This one has a fixed price of $1. As long as you leave a minimum balance of $1, you still get pro-rated dividends after you sell.

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QUOTE(vincentcwc92 @ Aug 24 2019, 04:33 PM)
Anybody able to fish any today?
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today market not open
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post Aug 25 2019, 08:16 PM

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Actually what people need to do is compare the shareholding of each ASM to see if it's really riskier.

ASM 3 Risky or not, I bet those who qualifies for Indian reserved quota and Adam 50 will still buy. I underweight ASM 3 purely because no quota is given to me + 1malaysia branding + it was quite easy to buy back then.

% of return will go lower or not is subjected to market condition. ASN can reinvest the dividend they receive for more dividend too. What we are lacking is a huge market swing. Imagine KLSE drop 50% and ASN sell high buy low, then KLSE recover. Another way is what our expert said - start investing abroad like EPF. Zeti said they are exploring that option.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 25 2019, 06:12 PM)
please state your argument point?
want to compare if we same page or not  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I thought she just did. Her point is "less
established", i.e still new. So it's riskier.

The fund is new, but the fund manager is not.

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QUOTE(vincentcwc92 @ Aug 25 2019, 10:11 PM)
Unable to fish any past few days with spamming captcha.. seems like impossible to get any currently
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Yesterday market not officially open. Don't know why it allows people to try buy.

Today only Kelantan and terengganu open. Traditionally, weekends are difficult to buy.

Friday was difficult. My worst performance in months. See tomorrow how loh.

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