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post Jan 23 2009, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 23 2009, 03:33 PM)
anything more than 1.2, i consider very high leh..hahaha..

i think i target Hektar and Tower Reit now la..
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Tower reit will be paying around 5 cents DPU as well within this month or next month.
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 23 2009, 03:28 PM)
1.32 no more seller, next seller is 1.37.  tongue.gif

So 1.37, want or not? Haha.
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Managed to unload some Axreit at 1.32 blush.gif 28 lots only tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:26 PM

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wow if u get axreit when around 1 is already 30% haha
i just get it when at 1.09 haha so just bout 20% alsop thinking whether wanna offload or not


Added on January 23, 2009, 5:27 pmmaybe wait till almost ex than sell for hope to get better price else just wait for div haha

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post Jan 23 2009, 05:38 PM

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future of reit .... how coz i new with reit pls explaine tq
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post Jan 23 2009, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(umikosan @ Jan 23 2009, 05:38 PM)
future of reit .... how coz i new with reit pls explaine tq
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U can 1st try reading from 1st page...there got quite a bit of info...

Do some homework 1st...if wanna explain from A to Z quite difficult
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QUOTE(umikosan @ Jan 23 2009, 06:38 PM)
future of reit .... how coz i new with reit pls explaine tq
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Don buy the stock for the sake that you don want to miss the boat....
U must fully understand what it works first and don let your greed overcome your common sense.
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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Jan 23 2009, 05:26 PM)
wow if u get axreit when around 1 is already 30% haha
i just get it when at 1.09 haha so just bout 20% alsop thinking whether wanna offload or not


Added on January 23, 2009, 5:27 pmmaybe wait till almost ex than sell for hope to get better price else just wait for div haha
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If I remember correctly we bought on same day, but I later DCA again when it touch 1.01, so total margin 25%++.

Wanted to stay on longer but what the hay, can use the money to buy other hammered down stock rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 23 2009, 09:52 PM

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Can anyone post some research paper on AXREIT here?

Last time got some1 posted it before, but dunno where i save the file. Would appreciate if any of you can post it here.


ITS OK...I GOT IT ADY!

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post Jan 29 2009, 02:56 PM

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Banana is growing on Axreit brows.gif

1.40 currently. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 29 2009, 03:01 PM

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actually i'm not very happy AXREIT going up so high!!!
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Jan 29 2009, 03:01 PM)
actually i'm not very happy AXREIT going up so high!!!
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Ok lah, not be too greedy.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 29 2009, 03:04 PM)
Ok lah, not be too greedy.
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I guess he want to buy
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post Jan 29 2009, 03:57 PM

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Hi Sifus here,

Anyone buy STAREIT? Currently transact at 0.775...any comment? coz i see lots of discussion on AXREIT only
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QUOTE(walle @ Jan 29 2009, 03:57 PM)
Hi Sifus here,

Anyone buy STAREIT? Currently transact at 0.775...any comment? coz i see lots of discussion on AXREIT only
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Because at the reit pricing and DPU, Axreit is much more attractive than Stareit

Axreit
Price 1.00
DPU 15 cents
Yield 15%

Stareit
Price 0.77
DPU 0.72
9.4%

That's why more people discuss about Axreit.

There were some discussion on Stareit as well in the old posts, can check it out.
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post Jan 30 2009, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 29 2009, 05:09 PM)
Because at the reit pricing and DPU, Axreit is much more attractive than Stareit

Axreit
Price 1.00
DPU 15 cents
Yield 15%

Stareit
Price 0.77
DPU 0.72
9.4%

That's why more people discuss about Axreit.

There were some discussion on Stareit as well in the old posts, can check it out.
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i think it's unfair to use Axreit Price at 1.00 because it seems like little chance for Axreit to go back 1.00 anymore.
Axreit now is 1.42
DPU 15cents
Net Dividend = 15 * 90% = 13.5cents = Net Yield 9.5%

Stareit now 0.775
Net Dividend = 7.2 * 90% = 6.48cents = Net Yield 8.36%

IMHO, Axreit is the most liquidity REIT, that's mean you can buy or sell easily beside higher yield.

For Stareit, is good for people looking stable income and long term, but lack liquidity, that's mean when u wanna sell it, you may need to offer lower a bit than current price in order to dispose it (don't mind if u hold it long term and the price already appreciate a lot)

Just my 2 centst
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QUOTE(vergil90 @ Jan 30 2009, 12:36 AM)
i think it's unfair to use Axreit Price at 1.00 because it seems like little chance for Axreit to go back 1.00 anymore.
Axreit now is 1.42
DPU 15cents
Net Dividend = 15 * 90% = 13.5cents = Net Yield 9.5%

Stareit now 0.775
Net Dividend = 7.2 * 90% = 6.48cents = Net Yield 8.36%

IMHO, Axreit is the most liquidity REIT, that's mean you can buy or sell easily beside higher yield.

For Stareit, is good for people looking stable income and long term, but lack liquidity, that's mean when u wanna sell it, you may need to offer lower a bit than current price in order to dispose it (don't mind if u hold it long term and the price already appreciate a lot)

Just my 2 centst
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I used 1.00 because at the level, forumers started buying (started from below 1.20 or so), and most forumers interested in this stock since then (most of us interested in this stock had bought along the way down).
At 1.20 below, it sparked a lot of interest, that's why I used 1.00. But even at 1.30~1.40, yield is still pretty good with around net 10%.

Stareit liquidity is not bad as well. You can easily buy and sell 1000 lots in stareit with no problem or without price distortion.

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HI all, Gong Xi Fatt Chai!

I m interested in Atrium after their recent announcement of DPU 2.15cents.
Tried google around but there are no related news in 2008 at all!

Question 1:
There was news in 2007 about plan of new acquisition of Senai plant (Flexitronics), does the deal still ongoing or been cancel?
Flexitronics (electronics manufacturing) badly hit with current economic downturn, so I suspect the deal will went down the drain.

Question 2:
Noticed main income of Atrium is from rental -Shah Alam 1 (Exel Logistics) & Shah Alam II (CEVA Logistics). THese companies seems like 3rd party outsourcing of MNC DHL & TNT.
Wonder how strong the fundamental is these Exel & CEVA companies, will they able to continue honour their rental contract?!
~consider logistics biz will be badly affected in current worl economic crisis ....

Much appreciate your sharing to shed some lights here, please. Thanks!
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QUOTE(ooyah98 @ Jan 30 2009, 01:21 PM)
HI all, Gong Xi Fatt Chai!

I m interested in Atrium after their recent announcement of DPU 2.15cents.
Tried google around but there are no related news in 2008 at all!

Question 1:
There was news in 2007 about plan of new acquisition of Senai plant (Flexitronics), does the deal still ongoing or been cancel?
Flexitronics (electronics manufacturing) badly hit with current economic downturn, so I suspect the deal will went down the drain.

Question 2:
Noticed main income of Atrium is from rental -Shah Alam 1 (Exel Logistics) & Shah Alam II (CEVA Logistics). THese companies seems like 3rd party outsourcing of MNC DHL & TNT.
Wonder how strong the fundamental is these Exel & CEVA companies, will they able to continue honour their rental contract?! 
~consider logistics biz will be badly affected in current worl economic crisis ....

Much appreciate your sharing to shed some lights here, please. Thanks!
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Q1.
Acquisition has been cancelled, in fact, none is on the list of acquisition currently, if not mistaken

Q2.
Those are reputable company, as long as they don't 'close shop', most still high probably will honour the contract.
Yes, your concern is also the market concern, in reit, the risk primary is on lease renenewal ability by the tenants, consider that logistics is one of badly hit in economy recession.

That's why reit or specifically reit across the world are trading at significant discount in anticipation of lesser tenants, lesser rental rate and properties price under pressure.

The distinct disadvantage of Atrium compared to others, is lesser liquidity, lesser diversify and size is too small for fund managers liking.

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Al-Hadharah Boustead REIT to give another 7.34 cent dividend, almost as good as the upcoming 7.87 cent dividend by AXREIT:

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...d8dc00-1c201111

Think I'm gonna grab some.... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(sopol @ Jan 22 2009, 03:28 PM)
dear supporter of reit, i am gathering your opinion on BSDreit before consider of buying. Sifu Cherroy has given his sight on this counter. what about your take..?

Hi Sifu Cherroy,

i know you're specialised in reit counter and i always follow your thoughts in the LYN's stock market forum. i am impressed with your strategy, views and rich in experience.

i have been aiming to buy bsdreit since last two months hoping for dividend income. during the first half the counter declared 3.69 dividend which i notice is just a small percentage of its total full year income. based on last year record, they declared a higher dividend when it come to final distribution. Below are some data which might be useful:

last 9 months eps: 10.50 cents
last div. paid so far: 3.69 cents
balance: 10.50 - 3.69 = 6.81 cents

assume 4th quarter eps is 3.2 cents, so total eps available for distribution will be 10.01 cents. let say final div. is 90% of 10.01 cents equal to 9 cents.

based on current price RM1.04 (22 Jan 09, 12.00pm), ROI is 8.65%. that is pretty good yield if i were to buy at current price.

What is your opinion sifu..is it a good buy..or probably i miss some other important information which may not favour my prediction?

I really appreciate your thought before miss this opportunity.... 
"Cherroy's reply......."

BSDreit just issued new share of 85 millions recently, so some dilution will occur.
Also it is trading at or near its NAV price, while most reit are trading at 20~30% discount to its NAV price, so some may be price-into the reit price which you see some good support on its share price.

The distribution will 'ex-out' the share price, so after distribution, it might trade at the region on 0.90-1.00. So short term you earn nothing out of it.

But for long term, with FD rate is at low point, (as long as they can secure long term tenants), reit might be good alternative to FD. --end
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though the dividend declared lower than expected due to earning dilution, i am happy earning 7.34 cents per share translating to 6.9% immediate yield.

thanks cherroy..you really make me fall in love with reit counter...

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