QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jun 25 2019, 09:12 PM)
Why you support the student ar? Student caning issue, You for or against??
Student caning issue, You for or against??
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Jun 25 2019, 09:26 PM
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Jun 25 2019, 09:34 PM
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Time has changed, Technology has changed.
Caring old method not applicable to Gen Z in this case, teacher is too much to cane the student's body instead of palm. |
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Jun 25 2019, 09:44 PM
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I say both are sohai, teacher is to educate but not use excessive caning, student profession is to study but no study.
Both should kena buang sekolah. |
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Jun 25 2019, 10:32 PM
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Jun 26 2019, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Jun 25 2019, 09:44 PM) I say both are sohai, teacher is to educate but not use excessive caning, student profession is to study but no study. Like I said, don't think this is called excessive caning la. If excessive, the skin would be even much worst than this.Both should kena buang sekolah. |
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Jun 26 2019, 01:03 PM
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I really sick with the comments like "Masa kecik-kecik kena rotan dengan cikgu, elok je jadi manusia".
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Jun 26 2019, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(IamAHuman @ Jun 26 2019, 01:00 PM) Like I said, don't think this is called excessive caning la. If excessive, the skin would be even much worst than this. It is not about whether the skin is torn = excessive. This is excessive force.Canning anywhere besides the palm of the hand and buttocks, as per rules set out by MOE for canning discipline, is already excessive and illegal, exceeded the legal boundaries. If teacher don't follow rules, then what kind of message the teacher is sending to the students? Why the palm of the hand? Have you seen those stings from jellyfish, the skin on the palm of a hand or sole of a foot is always under wear and regenerate, so the scar will go away sooner. For the rest of the skin on the body, the scar will remains for a very long time. Why the buttocks? Because it is a part where it is covered all the time in public. So if there is a scar there, it won't affect the image/looks of a person. Also, there are cloth to "protect" the skin, so it will not be torn under excessive force. Canning the buttocks naked is also illegal. If you daughter got permanent scars all around her because of a teacher's excessive canning, are you happy? This post has been edited by RicoT: Jun 26 2019, 02:18 PM |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Jun 26 2019, 02:07 PM) It is not about whether the skin is torn = excessive. This is excessive force. basically the average quality of national citizens we got, they cant view the matter rationally, but emotionally Canning anywhere besides the palm of the hand and buttocks, as per rules set out by MOE for canning discipline, is already excessive and illegal, exceeded the legal boundaries. If teacher don't follow rules, then what kind of message the teacher is sending to the students? Why the palm of the hand? Have you seen those stings from jellyfish, the skin on the palm of a hand or sole of a foot is always under wear and regenerate, so the scar will go away sooner. For the rest of the skin on the body, the scar will remains for a very long time. Why the buttocks? Because it is a part where it is covered all the time in public. So if there is a scar there, it won't affect the image/looks of a person. Also, there are cloth to "protect" the skin, so it will not be torn under excessive force. Canning the buttocks naked is also illegal. If you daughter got permanent scars all around her because of a teacher's excessive canning, are you happy? worst is relating the saying of "last time we all also kena caned la, now ok je" the teacher has obviously lost it when he chose to cane at places other than palm n butt y so many dont see the seriousness of this |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(bylkw2 @ Jun 26 2019, 02:17 PM) basically the average quality of national citizens we got, they cant view the matter rationally, but emotionally Student is a person who is studying, doing something incorrect is normal.worst is relating the saying of "last time we all also kena caned la, now ok je" the teacher has obviously lost it when he chose to cane at places other than palm n butt y so many dont see the seriousness of this I salute teachers who understood their profession well and be very patience in guiding students when they did something wrong, or be caring enough to understand why the student act in this manner, but I despise teacher who think violence is the only way to teach. Canning is usually reserved to discipline master, in my secondary school, teachers don't bring rotan into class anymore like primary school. Those who think last time they were caned and it is normal, they are stuck in the past and never thought to improve the situation. So if they are born into a poor family, they should forever be poor since it is normal to them. |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:22 PM
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kids nowadays strawberry. Kena rotan sikit, make viral whole malaysia.
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Jun 26 2019, 02:24 PM
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canning ok, but dera tak ok.
disrespect teacher, not ok... this is not a yes or no situation. |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:26 PM
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Jun 26 2019, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Jun 26 2019, 02:18 PM) Student is a person who is studying, doing something incorrect is normal. exactly, isn't this alarming and saddeningI salute teachers who understood their profession well and be very patience in guiding students when they did something wrong, or be caring enough to understand why the student act in this manner, but I despise teacher who think violence is the only way to teach. Canning is usually reserved to discipline master, in my secondary school, teachers don't bring rotan into class anymore like primary school. Those who think last time they were caned and it is normal, they are stuck in the past and never thought to improve the situation. So if they are born into a poor family, they should forever be poor since it is normal to them. no wonder most of our people still play with R&R everyday coz they cant think n evaluate things logically n rationally, easily manipulated with uncontrollable emotions Legit counselling is very important |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:29 PM
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Looking at the number and location of caning scar, it doesn't looks like the teacher is caning to teach a lesson. It looks more like a revenge caning.
I totally agree that the caning should be carried out, but should be done properly. This looks like wild swinging caning. The scar is in 3 distinct different places. Imagine you taking a wild swing. |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:30 PM
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If i were the parent, i will go to school amd thank the teacher to help me teach kids some manners.
This generation nowadays is all about entitlement and how the society or world owes you ...bla bla bla |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(mickeysew814 @ Jun 26 2019, 02:26 PM) after i see the photo, tak macam rotan sikit. so i wondering what is the teacher thinking when rotan her. obviously it is not rotan sikit the teacher has obviously lost his shit in order to cane student like this it is like expressing his outrage by abusing his power |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(Newsray @ Jun 25 2019, 08:23 PM) Your poll is skewed and biased towards the real point of the issue. That’s right, I agree with you.1. Student rude. 2. Teacher rotan to discipline. Most of course will vote for the teacher! The real point is the teacher abuse his power with excessive beating the student into submission. Thats the crime fall under Akta Kanun Keseksaan seksyen 323. Well maybe seksyen 335 might be more suitable. Thats a crime under the LAW. You put that into the poll, the teacher can close shop de. TS too emotional and bias towards teacher from the get-go. TS useless char siew too. |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(drowning @ Jun 26 2019, 02:29 PM) Looking at the number and location of caning scar, it doesn't looks like the teacher is caning to teach a lesson. It looks more like a revenge caning. Imagin you being called pondan in front of whole classI totally agree that the caning should be carried out, but should be done properly. This looks like wild swinging caning. The scar is in 3 distinct different places. Imagine you taking a wild swing. |
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Jun 26 2019, 02:32 PM
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sokong cikgu. padan muka. cikgu tu kena hormat. ni buat cikgu macam tahi. mmg patut la
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Jun 26 2019, 02:33 PM
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