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TSbanyanroot
post Jun 18 2019, 03:26 PM, updated 7y ago

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or will it remain with you for the rest of your life?
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:28 PM

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it will remain ... kept it lock down and try not to dig it out
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:29 PM

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use holy potion X1 to cure Depression.
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Edward_Ng @ Jun 18 2019, 03:29 PM)
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you meant phoenix down
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it will remain. its depending on you, whether you want it to win or not.
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some people have personality to always find something for them to be oppressed and depressed. there's no curing them

for normal kind of people, depression normally is only event related and can fullly healed with time or with replacement of what getting them depressed in the first place
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See the severity.
Find the root cause.

My sister got Anxiety attack and severe depression due to work related incident.
She move from that area, and now she's function properly, although sometimes she still got anxiety if anything related to previous incident resurfaced.

Happy pills help, but try not to depend on it too much.
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its like fever, with medication and proper rest it will go away
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How Taking Testosterone Illegally Helped Manage My Depression

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdmg9a/h...e-my-depression

I have borderline low testosterone and severe depression. After my mental health hit an all time low, I decided to take matters into my own hands.

At 19, I was diagnosed with major depression. I spent the next 14 years searching for the holy grail of antidepressants. In that time, I've been on more than two dozen psychiatric medications. I've tried all the well-known SSRIs (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors), like Prozac and Zoloft, as well as NDRIs (norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitors) like Wellbutrin. I've been on antipsychotics and atypical antipsychotics like Abilify, a drug I was on for only two weeks because it made me so tired that I slept through my alarm every morning.

I've been on mood stabilizers, anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax and Ativan, ADHD meds like Adderall, and more than a few treatments not approved for depression by the FDA. Every single drug I took ended up not working, only working for a short time, or producing unbearable side effects, like when the antidepressant Remeron made me puke for three days straight.

I'm 33 today, and my mental health deteriorated earlier this year in ways it never had before. Despite the three drugs I had been on (Paxil, Wellbutrin, and Lamictal), I became so depressed that staying awake for more than ten hours became nearly impossible. I lost interest in sex. (I'm in an open triad relationship, and my boyfriend Jeff, who writes for VICE, can confirm this had never been a problem before.) I started wishing that I was dead. Work became a nightmare. It was the most intense period of depression I'd experienced in my life.

It was around this time that I decided to take matters into my own hands and start illegally purchasing and injecting myself with testosterone.

I was 25 when a doctor first suggested I get tested for low testosterone, explaining that men with "low T" mimic depression symptoms: lethargy, low mood, general loss of interest, and low sex drive. My test results revealed that my testosterone level was 225 ng/dl. Low testosterone is medically defined as occurring in men who test below 200 ng/dl. Although I was borderline, because I didn't fall into the official low T range, my doctor wasn't comfortable prescribing me testosterone.

This February, after being let down by yet another cocktail of medications, I started thinking about testosterone again. Over the past decade, low T has become an extremely controversial diagnosis. Drug manufacturers stand to make a fortune from drugs that can treat it, but modern studies have had mixed results when it comes to its efficacy for treating depression, my problem. A study of testosterone's effects in men over the age of 65 found that "testosterone was associated with small but significant benefits with respect to mood and depressive symptoms"—but that's for older guys, not 33-year-olds like me.

The risks of testosterone therapy are great enough to make physicians wary of prescribing it. Testosterone injections have been shown to cause heart attacks, infertility, liver problems, polycythemia (thickened blood, which increases one's risk of blood clots, stroke, and heart attack), to aggravate sleep apnea, cause skin reactions (depending on how you take it), and other risks that should give anyone pause.

"We need to more completely understand the significance of the consequences of low testosterone, and to what extent testosterone therapy is effective in mitigating those consequences," said Dr. Christian Pike, a professor at USC's Leonard Davis School of Gerontology, when I asked him about the effectiveness of testosterone replacement therapy. He thinks that more research needs to be done before it's available as a treatment option for the general population. Though he did tell me that low T is "a real issue that pharmaceutical companies are aggressively targeting" and that "there is evidence from research in my lab and others suggesting that low testosterone increases the risks for Alzheimer's disease, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and several other age-related conditions."

Earlier this year, I went to four LA-area doctors, looking for one who would agree to at least test my testosterone level again. One told me he didn't know enough about the science behind it, while the other three told me my insurance wouldn't cover it because I had been tested less than ten years ago.

Deep in my depression with no relief insight, I started to feel desperate for anything that could offer some relief. So this March I decided to circumvent medical professionals and take my mental health into my own hands. I did this at great personal risk. It's a choice that I would never recommend to anyone else.

The common dose of testosterone prescribed to treat low T is 200 mg a week. Synthetic testosterone is an anabolic steroid, the same drug bodybuilders and athletes inject to build muscle mass, just at a lower dosage. Anything over 400 mg every two weeks lifts the drug into steroid territory.

I've dated bodybuilders and had athlete friends who were well-acquainted with that side of the drug. I didn't want to be like the muscle queens on the LA gay scene. My goal wasn't about vanity. I just wanted to feel normal again.

This might come as a shock, but finding black market testosterone in LA is a breeze. I bought my first vial from a guy I met through a mutual friend. He calls himself a "health consultant" and only deals steroids, no other drugs.

Getting over my fear of needles was the real struggle. It took weeks of staring at a syringe before I could even hold one. I also had a considerable amount of anxiety due to the fact that I was using black market drugs, which can be lethal.

"You could be injecting bacteria-infected material—you have no way of knowing what you're really injecting," Dr. Larry Lipshultz, a Houston-based urologist who specializes in men's health issues like infertility and low testosterone, told me. "It's a whole host of issues."

But any anxiety I had melted away after my first injection. Within 24 hours, I had more energy than I'd had in a decade. I felt sexual again. And I began to have hope that my life could get better.

While writing this, I asked Dr. Lipshultz and Dr. Pike about my elevated mood, improved sex drive, and increase in energy since I began injecting and why I might be seeing those results. However, they refused to comment without seeing my labs and knowing my complete medical history. Another doctor I interviewed refused to comment on my results, citing legal concerns. And though no physician would lend their expert opinion on why I'm experiencing relief, I'm aware that what's happening to me might not be due to the synthetic testosterone at all and will probably not produce similar results for anyone else.

Testosterone enanthate, the synthetic version I chose to start taking, certainly hasn't been a magical cure. I still have trouble getting out of bed some days. But it has alleviated the physical symptoms of my depression and allowed me to focus on the mental aspects of my disease.

Of course, I'm not a doctor. If you're suffering from depression, you should always heed the advice of licensed medical practitioners, who are there to ensure that the drugs you take won't end up causing you more harm than good. Off-book treatments like what I am doing are incredibly dangerous. The only reason I started doing this was because I felt as though I had no other choice.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Jun 18 2019, 03:30 PM)
you meant phoenix down
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no effect after apply Phoenix down
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Jun 18 2019, 03:30 PM)
you meant phoenix down
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If already zombiefied/undead state, nanti mati terus pulak.
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if they die because of old age - then yes, depression can be cured

else nope..jst the victim manage to suppress it until that very moment only..before he/she gave in to suicidal tendency nod.gif
JasonTheGreat
post Jun 18 2019, 03:34 PM

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yes. takes time.
2 years for uncle.
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(JasonTheGreat @ Jun 18 2019, 03:34 PM)
yes. takes time.
2 years for uncle.
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post Jun 18 2019, 03:39 PM

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depression can many type.. there is no cure.. but it can be manageable
some common medication is like Lexapro can be bought

bottom line is.. if your work / life too depress and trigger your depression.. u need to change it.. there is no easy way to be happy
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Exercise, Depression, and the Brain
https://www.healthline.com/health/depression/exercise#1


Whether you’re experiencing a simple case of the Monday blues or more persistent symptoms of depression, exercise can help boost your mood.

Getting regular exercise is important for good physical and mental health. Exercise can help stimulate parts of your brain that aren’t as responsive when you’re feeling depressed. It also promotes the release of feel-good brain chemicals. It may also help distract you from your worries and improve your confidence.

Exercise and brain chemistry
Depression is a mood disorder that causes persistent feelings of apathy and sadness. It’s a complex condition, with several contributing factors. Changes in your brain biochemistry likely play a part.

“Simply put, most people who are depressed have something wrong with their brain chemistry," says William Walsh, Ph.D., president of the Walsh Research Institute, a nonprofit mental health research institution in Illinois. “Life experiences can make things worse,” he adds, “but usually the dominant problem is chemistry."

Exercise can help relieve symptoms of depression in several ways. Among other benefits, it helps stimulate the release of feel-good brain chemicals.

Endorphins and other neurotransmitters
The first thing you might think of when it comes to exercise and depression is what is commonly known as “runner’s high.” This describes the release of endorphins that your brain experiences when you physically exert yourself. Endorphins are a type of neurotransmitter, or chemical messenger. They help relieve pain and stress.

Endorphins are only one of many neurotransmitters released when you exercise. Physical activity also stimulates the release of dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin. These brain chemicals play an important part in regulating your mood.

For example, regular exercise can positively impact serotonin levels in your brain. Raising your levels of serotonin boosts your mood and overall sense of well-being. It can also help improve your appetite and sleep cycles, which are often negatively affected by depression.

Regular exercise also helps balance your body’s level of stress hormones, such as adrenaline. Adrenaline plays a crucial role in your fight-or-flight response, but too much of it can damage your health.

Other mental health benefits of exercise
Exercise can have other mental health benefits too. For example, focusing on your body’s movements during exercise may help distract you from upsetting thoughts. Setting and meeting exercise-related goals may also boost your confidence and sense of control.

When you exercise with other people, it can provide mood-boosting social benefits. For example, consider walking in the park, taking a yoga class, or joining a recreational sport team with a friend or family member. Exercise classes can also be a good place to meet new people. You can enjoy the physical stimulation of a workout, while getting social stimulation too.

Developing an exercise routine
While any amount of exercise can help relieve the symptoms of depression, regular exercise is best. Some types of exercise may be more beneficial than others.

Aerobic workouts are most associated with positive results in treating depression. Aerobic exercise elevates your heart rate, which improves circulation in your brain. This helps promote healthy brain function and balanced brain chemistry. Aerobic exercise also provides many physical health benefits.

The Centers for Disease Control and PreventionTrusted Source encourage most adults to get at least 150 minutes of moderate-intensity aerobic activity per week. You can reach this goal by taking a brisk 30-minute walk around your neighborhood, five days a week. Other examples of aerobic activity include swimming, bicycling, and playing basketball.


Eating a healthy diet
Eating a well-balanced diet is also important for good mental health. For example, complex carbohydrates and protein-rich foods can help improve your mood and concentration. They also provide the energy and nutrients needed to fuel your workouts.

For a nutritious diet, eat a variety of vegetables, fruits, whole grains, low-fat dairy products, and lean proteins. Don’t eat a lot of foods that are high in refined sugar, saturated fats, or salt. Only drink alcohol in moderation.

The takeaway
A range of factors can contribute to depression. Your brain chemistry is an important one. In many cases, you can improve your brain chemistry with something as simple as regular exercise. Getting 150 minutes of moderate aerobic activity per week is an important part of staying healthy. It can boost your mood and energy, while strengthening your muscles, lungs, and heart.

If you suspect you have depression, speak to your doctor. They may recommend a variety of lifestyle changes, including changes to your exercise routine. They may also prescribe other treatments, such as medications, therapy, or a combination of both.
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Can be cure if u have the function to "Self-Motivate",

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
How Taking Testosterone Illegally Helped Manage My Depression

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdmg9a/h...e-my-depression

I have borderline low testosterone and severe depression. After my mental health hit an all time low, I decided to take matters into my own hands.

At 19, I was diagnosed with major depression. I spent the next 14 years searching for the holy grail of antidepressants. In that time, I've been on more than two dozen psychiatric medications. I've tried all the well-known SSRIs (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors), like Prozac and Zoloft, as well as NDRIs (norepinephrine–dopamine reuptake inhibitors) like Wellbutrin. I've been on antipsychotics and atypical antipsychotics like Abilify, a drug I was on for only two weeks because it made me so tired that I slept through my alarm every morning.

I've been on mood stabilizers, anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax and Ativan, ADHD meds like Adderall, and more than a few treatments not approved for depression by the FDA. Every single drug I took ended up not working, only working for a short time, or producing unbearable side effects, like when the antidepressant Remeron made me puke for three days straight.

I'm 33 today, and my mental health deteriorated earlier this year in ways it never had before. Despite the three drugs I had been on (Paxil, Wellbutrin, and Lamictal), I became so depressed that staying awake for more than ten hours became nearly impossible. I lost interest in sex. (I'm in an open triad relationship, and my boyfriend Jeff, who writes for VICE, can confirm this had never been a problem before.) I started wishing that I was dead. Work became a nightmare. It was the most intense period of depression I'd experienced in my life.

It was around this time that I decided to take matters into my own hands and start illegally purchasing and injecting myself with testosterone.

I was 25 when a doctor first suggested I get tested for low testosterone, explaining that men with "low T" mimic depression symptoms: lethargy, low mood, general loss of interest, and low sex drive. My test results revealed that my testosterone level was 225 ng/dl. Low testosterone is medically defined as occurring in men who test below 200 ng/dl. Although I was borderline, because I didn't fall into the official low T range, my doctor wasn't comfortable prescribing me testosterone.

This February, after being let down by yet another cocktail of medications, I started thinking about testosterone again. Over the past decade, low T has become an extremely controversial diagnosis. Drug manufacturers stand to make a fortune from drugs that can treat it, but modern studies have had mixed results when it comes to its efficacy for treating depression, my problem. A study of testosterone's effects in men over the age of 65 found that "testosterone was associated with small but significant benefits with respect to mood and depressive symptoms"—but that's for older guys, not 33-year-olds like me.

The risks of testosterone therapy are great enough to make physicians wary of prescribing it. Testosterone injections have been shown to cause heart attacks, infertility, liver problems, polycythemia (thickened blood, which increases one's risk of blood clots, stroke, and heart attack), to aggravate sleep apnea, cause skin reactions (depending on how you take it), and other risks that should give anyone pause.

"We need to more completely understand the significance of the consequences of low testosterone, and to what extent testosterone therapy is effective in mitigating those consequences," said Dr. Christian Pike, a professor at USC's Leonard Davis School of Gerontology, when I asked him about the effectiveness of testosterone replacement therapy. He thinks that more research needs to be done before it's available as a treatment option for the general population. Though he did tell me that low T is "a real issue that pharmaceutical companies are aggressively targeting" and that "there is evidence from research in my lab and others suggesting that low testosterone increases the risks for Alzheimer's disease, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and several other age-related conditions."

Earlier this year, I went to four LA-area doctors, looking for one who would agree to at least test my testosterone level again. One told me he didn't know enough about the science behind it, while the other three told me my insurance wouldn't cover it because I had been tested less than ten years ago.

Deep in my depression with no relief insight, I started to feel desperate for anything that could offer some relief. So this March I decided to circumvent medical professionals and take my mental health into my own hands. I did this at great personal risk. It's a choice that I would never recommend to anyone else.

The common dose of testosterone prescribed to treat low T is 200 mg a week. Synthetic testosterone is an anabolic steroid, the same drug bodybuilders and athletes inject to build muscle mass, just at a lower dosage. Anything over 400 mg every two weeks lifts the drug into steroid territory.

I've dated bodybuilders and had athlete friends who were well-acquainted with that side of the drug. I didn't want to be like the muscle queens on the LA gay scene. My goal wasn't about vanity. I just wanted to feel normal again.

This might come as a shock, but finding black market testosterone in LA is a breeze. I bought my first vial from a guy I met through a mutual friend. He calls himself a "health consultant" and only deals steroids, no other drugs.

Getting over my fear of needles was the real struggle. It took weeks of staring at a syringe before I could even hold one. I also had a considerable amount of anxiety due to the fact that I was using black market drugs, which can be lethal.

"You could be injecting bacteria-infected material—you have no way of knowing what you're really injecting," Dr. Larry Lipshultz, a Houston-based urologist who specializes in men's health issues like infertility and low testosterone, told me. "It's a whole host of issues."

But any anxiety I had melted away after my first injection. Within 24 hours, I had more energy than I'd had in a decade. I felt sexual again. And I began to have hope that my life could get better.

While writing this, I asked Dr. Lipshultz and Dr. Pike about my elevated mood, improved sex drive, and increase in energy since I began injecting and why I might be seeing those results. However, they refused to comment without seeing my labs and knowing my complete medical history. Another doctor I interviewed refused to comment on my results, citing legal concerns. And though no physician would lend their expert opinion on why I'm experiencing relief, I'm aware that what's happening to me might not be due to the synthetic testosterone at all and will probably not produce similar results for anyone else.

Testosterone enanthate, the synthetic version I chose to start taking, certainly hasn't been a magical cure. I still have trouble getting out of bed some days. But it has alleviated the physical symptoms of my depression and allowed me to focus on the mental aspects of my disease.

Of course, I'm not a doctor. If you're suffering from depression, you should always heed the advice of licensed medical practitioners, who are there to ensure that the drugs you take won't end up causing you more harm than good. Off-book treatments like what I am doing are incredibly dangerous. The only reason I started doing this was because I felt as though I had no other choice.
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Where can I get this vial around here? is it available in SEA region? say singapore/thailand?
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QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Jun 18 2019, 03:31 PM)
its like fever, with medication and proper rest it will go away
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but then it will come back again if not taken care off properly laugh.gif

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