thx for the reply...
lastly, whats spirit and alcohol can be used for model paints?

okay.. if this is not clear enuf..

tamiya acrylics
mr. hobby aqueous
humbrol acrylics acqueous

suitable/ compatible solvents: distilled water, rubbing alcohol, methylated spirit, mr. thinner

tamiya enamel
testors enamel
shud use enamel thinner (from respective brand), zippo lighter fluid

mr. color (lacquer type)
Mr. Thinner (not the aqueous type thinner), Zebra brand thinner, other industrial thinner shud be compatible (u can try mixing it, if u see no clotting/emulsifying/ precipitation.. means dissolvable)

Word of caution: stronger thinner usually dissolve more types of paint, so test on scrap plastic first (might dissolve plastic as well)

NEVER APPLY PAINT WHICH HAS A STRONGER THINNER/SOLVENT THAN THE UNDERCOAT PAINT

E.G. if u have painted with acrylic paints that uses alcohol as ur solvent, DO NOT apply another layer of paint that uses thinner, IT WILL MELT/SMEAR your 1st layer paint

LAST WORD...

GOODLUCK

This post has been edited by erh_teo: Jun 29 2007, 01:38 PM

Its really up to your imagination on how you want to use each type of paint, so lacquer thinned with hardware thinner can also be hand brushed, just that I was stating my personal preferences earlier. Personally I find lacquer to be too fast drying to hand paint for my liking, but you can do your own experiments and see what results u can get if u're to add a retarder to the paint mix.

As for spirits, the Zebra brand methylated spirits works pretty well for me (this' only for acrylics!). Isoprophyl, never used that, but from what I've read elsewhere on the internet, this also works well.

dude.. paint stripping it's gonna b a dirty job..

like VincC said, if u think its messy, just prime it loh..

but if u strip the paint, u shud use a metal primer
(if i'm not mistaken, there shud be metal and plastic primer, thou some brands didn't specify, but i guess there's some diff in it)

with primer, there's few things u don have to worry after u re-spray
1) paint peel off
2) paint cracked (if u spray on top of another paint)
3) color u intend to appear is diff in the final spraywork
4) got coarse/ foreign material stick to the surface (after priming u can see defects easily)

i belif theres more.. but above are some of my experience for sharing

thx for all the replies guys...
now need to find time to build and paint...

but other than cover the surface color... will it make the paint more shiny after dry ?? where can i get it ??

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Added on June 29, 2007, 5:50 pmthanks for ur reply also.... currently i spray ontop of the red color paint .... spray black colour... the final work ... paint is not as smooth as i thought... then got buble inside... and now its like the black color peel off edi

This post has been edited by Jackygwh: Jun 29 2007, 05:50 PM

bubble means either too near to the spraying surface or to much paint on it already

yes...dont care what grade or primer u use...it still depends on what type of paint you use...if the paint is glossy...then the surface will be shiny...if flat...then surface will have a dull effect

hey thanks guys for ur reply..... but mr surfacer is cream like paint... how to use ?? need to have air brush ?

Mr Surfacer is available in 2 types, one is the bottle (the one u were refering to), and the other is in the form of a spray can.

The bottle variety can be used in 2 ways, one is to thin it down for spraying (using it as a primer), or brushed right onto the bottle (using it as a liquid putty). For the kind of use that u've got in mind, u'll need to thin it down using thinner, and spray from an airbrush.

Or if u don't have an AB, then just look for the spray cans.

ya... so i think hav to buy can one.... jus strip of the old paint ? and spray the primer on it b4 respray to other color

thanks ya

if you are uisng the primer already...what for wanna strip the original paint first...

paint stripping may help at times, especially when the original layer isnt done that well, or is not smooth. thick application of primers may help with this but also risk obscuring the details

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Added on July 1, 2007, 1:51 pmlook at the original paint job first, u may or may not need to strip off the paint. if there's some uneven parts, then just sand those away, then prime, the look at the results.

basically, its a series of sand, prime, inspect. if there's parts u're not happy with, then sand again, prime, and inspect till u're happy with the results.

its only in the most severe cases that u need to resort to paint stripping.

This post has been edited by fyire: Jul 1 2007, 01:51 PM

because the brand is maisito so the paint job is bad..... so i wanna strip off first and prime it... then repaint think tat will looks better hehe

erm...duno here right place t post...my bro just started gundam and he wants to know a few things about painting...he asked this:
i started handbrushing before and my work turned out messy and rough( not really what i wanted) so i want to know...is those spray paint that toycity sell...those tamiya ones good? and wha is airbrushing? what else do i need to have to paint? and what are those "washes" and drybrushing is all about?and can hardware paint hurt my gundam?
and lastly...can someone provide me the cost of these things? help much aprreciated!

This post has been edited by saikuan: Jul 3 2007, 12:01 AM

providing u a cost for modeling is almost like telling u how much u shud spend for ur new year clothes

well.. like i've said, it's too general, very subjective.. u can use as low as less than rm20 to get decent tools to fix ur kit or u can spend more than rm100..

it's rili depending on ur personal needs.

as for painting ur kit, i belif there been so many ppl giving advices on how to paint ur kits, same goes for weathering, washes and drybrushing in LYN. if's it's not enuf i belif the internet sources is filled with unlimited tutorials on these topics..

go search the internet la brader.

after u have read some tutorials.. i belif u will learn alot.. if u ask questions also, ppl are more willing to reply u, at least u aredi know someting basic and know wat to ask

nothing is easy 1 loh hoh starting is always difficult.. i belif evryone here esp those experience guys also face the same problem wt u.
u r not alone..

gear-up dude!!!

hey thanks...as u read in the last post...im the bro...lolx...jus make account today...now i just wanna know...how much is the cost of spray paint? rm20? what can i get with rm20? coz i just started out...so i want to just use a cheap budget...(i live on parents money and allowance...not like brother saikuan...got a job...lol)

thanks in advance!

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Added on July 3, 2007, 10:46 pmo yea...one more thing...how much does paint cost...just a rough cost will help...and ... o yea...my fren asked me where to get styrene plastic and its cost too...tQ!

This post has been edited by zheyuen: Jul 3 2007, 10:46 PM

ok...
for tamiya spray paint RM29.90/can
tamiya surface primer L (gray) RM36/can
tamiya fine surface primer L (white) RM39.90
gunze mr.hobby mr. super clear (TM BTS price) RM40/can

alternative u can use Arrow industrial spray can roughly between RM5-RM8, depends where u buy la, hardware shops price are cheaper than supermarket price(unless on offer la).

for tamiya spray can and primer, any Tamiya Toycity sells them, but most of the time no stock for the paint u want...
u can try visit Tamiya Underground @ One Utama, they got more stocks..
styrene sheets aka pla-plate also can be found at Tamiya Underground...

tips for painting ur kits, primer is very important as it will help ur paint to stick better to ur kits...

have fun...

Woo! really looks like investing in an airbrush is really worth it, considering that the upkeep is much lower after that. The bottled paints r far far cheaper than the spray cans, and all u need is heaps of thinner (cheap industrial thinner will do also)

i totally agree with u there...
i'm starting a fund to buy n AB set now, so, no more buying kits although tempted to buy one, if minus fund got extra, i'll get 1 kit...
i just bought mr.hobby lacquer paints, 5 bottles to be exact and 1 bottle mr.surfacer 1000, cost me RM59.90 at XL M.valley...
if got AB, just add RM3.50(i think la)for Zebra thinner, cost will be around RM64.00...
RM700-RM800 for a complete AB set sounds cheap now...
i cant seem to find bottled clear coat, matte and gloss...
i might be getting an AB in few months time...