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MR_alien
post May 25 2019, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(proton_man @ May 25 2019, 09:17 AM)
The current one is replacement la
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if you're not automotive guy, i understand
let me sum it up
brand new/replacement = brand new engine, brand new transmission, brand new design
facelift - upgrade abit here and there/improvement
saga from 2008 until now is still facelift....still the same engine, still the same transmission, still the same interior

proton has a 10 year cycle for each of their model
we're not toyota, facelift also call brand new
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post May 25 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ May 25 2019, 09:20 AM)
Current one is based on the same platform like the first SAGA BLM 10 years ago

Same like current Myvi based on the same platform as the first Myvi back in 2006

Not to say it is a bad thing
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Based on same platform doesn’t mean it’s not a new car..they just don’t have the budget to redo everything

BLM and FLX already been replaced by the current one
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post May 25 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 25 2019, 09:23 AM)
if you're not automotive guy, i understand
let me sum it up
brand new/replacement = brand new engine, brand new transmission, brand new design
facelift - upgrade abit here and there/improvement
saga from 2008 until now is still facelift....still the same engine, still the same transmission, still the same interior

proton has a 10 year cycle for each of their model
we're not toyota, facelift also call brand new
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So the latest Camry is not a brand new Camry?same engine same transmission

Saga is a budget car...they don’t have the money to redo everything la....dashboard is similar but diff,exterior is similar in shape but diff panel altogether,seats are diff
Proton made it official that it is the 3rd generation saga
Just because you are not being realistic expecting a proper B segment car type of update doesn’t mean the saga is not new

Saga is and always will be the most budget type of car any Malaysian can buy...that’s why they have the persona to fill up the ‘always new model’ replacement car

Saga is an A segment sedan that not many car manufacturers will offer....most only produce such car in India and Indonesia...it’s cheap,get the work done soulless car

Act smart but over expecting

This post has been edited by proton_man: May 25 2019, 09:36 AM
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post May 25 2019, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(JeremyLord @ May 24 2019, 11:02 PM)
yaris
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haha... i see a few week ago in mall at my place. So beautifull and garang. Green color. Interior a bit small but full of gadget. Exterior look nice. Toyoto engine also good.
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post May 25 2019, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(rudduan @ May 24 2019, 11:24 PM)
Topup sikit n get vios
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what u mean by topup skit? mcm topup banyk but if u mention 2nd then nope. Driver is women. Headache.
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post May 25 2019, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(alepfx @ May 24 2019, 11:34 PM)
due my experience, I own and drive both car, saga flx 1.3 and bezza 1.3. For long distance, slow drive within national speed limit, bezza provide more comfortability for passengers. Despite its upright seating position, I think it is still comfy. In addition, for city drive, bezza behave better, no jerking, no cvt rubbery feel, throttle response more direct. The big cons are unstable during hi speed, even you may feel lorry pushing you away while passing by. Heck, it even cant stand crosswind.  It is using axia platform, what do you expect. The door also looks nipis, I doubt it can stand side crash. For performance, bezza suffer in hi speed, like it needs extra push. If you put extra push around corners, please pray hard not to crash or overshoot.

But if you prefer hiway drive, speeding within 140-160kph, saga wayyy more stable and secure. Cornering more mantap. Big cons are, cvt rubbery feel, cvt jerk is obvious from stop to roll. Also unresponsive throttle in low speed. Then, it less comfy due to stiffer suspension setup. It gets worse when fully seated. However, it behaves best during hi speed and hi rpm.

Both fuel consumption almost the same either city or hiway drive. For maintenance, bezza is better in term of cost. Perodua always charge less than proton.
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This is the most good and clear explanation. Thank you for sharing mr. Based on ur, she only drive mostly kl selangor area, each a week fly to n9. So i think bezza but they said to wait for saga face lift. So....
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QUOTE(alepfx @ May 24 2019, 11:34 PM)
due my experience, I own and drive both car, saga flx 1.3 and bezza 1.3. For long distance, slow drive within national speed limit, bezza provide more comfortability for passengers. Despite its upright seating position, I think it is still comfy. In addition, for city drive, bezza behave better, no jerking, no cvt rubbery feel, throttle response more direct. The big cons are unstable during hi speed, even you may feel lorry pushing you away while passing by. Heck, it even cant stand crosswind.  It is using axia platform, what do you expect. The door also looks nipis, I doubt it can stand side crash. For performance, bezza suffer in hi speed, like it needs extra push. If you put extra push around corners, please pray hard not to crash or overshoot.

But if you prefer hiway drive, speeding within 140-160kph, saga wayyy more stable and secure. Cornering more mantap. Big cons are, cvt rubbery feel, cvt jerk is obvious from stop to roll. Also unresponsive throttle in low speed. Then, it less comfy due to stiffer suspension setup. It gets worse when fully seated. However, it behaves best during hi speed and hi rpm.

Both fuel consumption almost the same either city or hiway drive. For maintenance, bezza is better in term of cost. Perodua always charge less than proton.
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This is the most good and clear explanation. Thank you for sharing mr. Based on ur, she only drive mostly kl selangor area, each a week fly to n9. So i think bezza but they said to wait for saga face lift. So....
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QUOTE(proton_man @ May 25 2019, 09:25 AM)
So the latest Camry is not a brand new Camry?same engine same transmission
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it's brand new in thailand and other countries
not in malaysia, they can call it brand new all they want, it's not
consumer themselves know that

UMW here is a ripoff and everybody know it, their model keep on facelift like forever
facelift but put "all new" on their poster
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QUOTE(stormchaser @ May 25 2019, 07:19 AM)
to me not style la... the convenience of having the key out and in the pocket.. u know, sometimes wear jean, korek here and there...

eehh.. how about bezza door also keyless right.. if not, then push start dun really makes a different d..
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yah what i mean is both. Keyless and push start button just like my axia. Very ez. No need to search. Picit pintu. Ting Ting. Then masuk push button. Vroom jalan.
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post May 25 2019, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 25 2019, 09:34 AM)
it's brand new in thailand and other countries
not in malaysia, they can call it brand new all they want, it's not
consumer themselves know that

UMW here is a ripoff and everybody know it, their model keep on facelift like forever
facelift but put "all new" on their poster
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Read my update la I edited my post
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post May 25 2019, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(proton_man @ May 25 2019, 09:25 AM)
Saga is a budget car...they don’t have the money to redo everything la....dashboard is similar but diff,exterior is similar in shape but diff panel altogether,seats are diff
Proton made it official that it is the 3rd generation saga
Just because you are not being realistic expecting a proper B segment car type of update doesn’t mean the saga is not new

Saga is and always will be the most budget type of car any Malaysian can buy...that’s why they have the persona to fill up the ‘always new model’ replacement car

Act smart but over expecting
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budget car but sold in volume
look at persona, that one u can call brand new, design totally different from previous model
different engine, different transmission, different suspension setup, different interior
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QUOTE(proton_man @ May 25 2019, 09:37 AM)
Read my update la I edited my post
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post May 25 2019, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ May 25 2019, 09:39 AM)
budget car but sold in volume
look at persona, that one u can call brand new, design totally different from previous model
different engine, different transmission, different suspension setup, different interior
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I explained the reason behind that already
Because persona is a proper car
Saga is not made in that way...it’s made simple...cheap...soulless and get the job done...don’t expect any fun in driving it just like the Bezza

What you don’t understand?

Even the 2nd and 3rd gen Kia Picanto uses same everything...just more refined

Because of ppl like you...Proton has new plan after this la

Saga will be a Proper B segment for next gen....no more cheap ass option....persona will stay standard in C instead of wondering around the B-C segment


This post has been edited by proton_man: May 25 2019, 09:44 AM
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post May 25 2019, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(proton_man @ May 25 2019, 09:24 AM)
Based on same platform doesn’t mean it’s not a new car..they just don’t have the budget to redo everything

BLM and FLX already been replaced by the current one
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It just a facelift model - they just reskin it

Not totally new car which means new platform, engine, transmission etc
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post May 25 2019, 10:06 AM

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Senang hati vs Sakit hati
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QUOTE(lagista @ May 25 2019, 10:06 AM)
Senang hati vs Sakit hati
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Senang hati (bezza) vs sakit hati (saga) ?
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QUOTE(tenukkongkong @ May 25 2019, 10:07 AM)
Senang hati (bezza) vs sakit hati (saga) ?
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High resale value (RV) vs High regret value (RV)
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post May 25 2019, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(tenukkongkong @ May 25 2019, 09:29 AM)
haha... i see a few week ago in mall at my place. So beautifull and garang. Green color. Interior a bit small but full of gadget. Exterior look nice. Toyoto engine also good.
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Belilah yaris

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