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post Jun 10 2019, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(ZONX @ Jun 4 2019, 11:23 AM)
Anyone using tri-colour downlight?
Any comment on it? (i.e. spoilt easily? any reliable brand?)

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post Jun 10 2019, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 10 2019, 06:26 PM)
Hi, my house has completed and i started to browse for lighting.
My old house is using tube lights, and so i am used to tube light.

however, as i start to browse around and when i started to look into other peoples house, nearly everyone is using downlights.

I do not have plan to do plaster ceiling, so what is a normally preferred way for my case?
I am not quite used to the narrow beam of downlights, and they need quite a lot to light up a space, and without plaster ceiling, it is a problem.
And there are those big rounded light like 30cm in diameter, are those bright enough? or i should stick back with tube light neglecting the appearances?

thanks for input.
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Always remember it is your house and just because others are doing something does not mean you should do it too for your house especially if it isn't something you like all that much.

If you don't have plaster ceiling your options are fairly limited in the sense that you may not have as many lighting points.

Track lamps are an option, single fixture multi bulbs are another and another option is to use LED strips or battens.

Big diameter LEDs do tend to give out a very harsh glare.

Tube lamps? You could get a tube lamp light box, guaranteed it won't look out of place.
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post Jun 10 2019, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jun 10 2019, 08:37 PM)
Always remember it is your house and just because others are doing something does not mean you should do it too for your house especially if it isn't something you like all that much.

If you don't have plaster ceiling your options are fairly limited in the sense that you may not have as many lighting points.

Track lamps are an option, single fixture multi bulbs are another and another option is to use LED strips or battens.

Big diameter LEDs do tend to give out a very harsh glare.

Tube lamps? You could get a tube lamp light box, guaranteed it won't look out of place.
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post Jun 11 2019, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(blackstar88 @ Jun 10 2019, 06:26 PM)
Hi, my house has completed and i started to browse for lighting.
My old house is using tube lights, and so i am used to tube light.

however, as i start to browse around and when i started to look into other peoples house, nearly everyone is using downlights.

I do not have plan to do plaster ceiling, so what is a normally preferred way for my case?
I am not quite used to the narrow beam of downlights, and they need quite a lot to light up a space, and without plaster ceiling, it is a problem.
And there are those big rounded light like 30cm in diameter, are those bright enough? or i should stick back with tube light neglecting the appearances?

thanks for input.
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you cant use downlight if you dont have plaster ceiling, instead of going for tube light or big dome light, you can go for LED track light or fixed spotlight that still allow you to rotate the position but not as flexible as track light

it is best if you can install 2 set of track lights with different switch, 1 switch to turn on the track for white lights and another switch to turn on the tracks for dimmer yellow lights when you need it

personally i used tube light and fixed spotlights at my living room, i find that 3 LED spotlights give better lightning compare to CFL tube, and i have to remove one of the LED to reduce the brightness, the rest of the LED point to the ceiling to diffuse the lights around my living room, even when i sleep on my sofa with lights on, it does not appear glaring to my eyes

another downside of using LED downlight is that if you place them directly above sofa, it's brightness might be glaring when you look up or taking a nap with lights on and you can adjust them like track lights
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 11 2019, 09:25 AM)
you cant use downlight if you dont have plaster ceiling, instead of going for tube light or big dome light, you can go for LED track light or fixed spotlight that still allow you to rotate the position but not as flexible as track light

it is best if you can install 2 set of track lights with different switch, 1 switch to turn on the track for white lights and another switch to turn on the tracks for dimmer yellow lights when you need it

personally i used tube light and fixed spotlights at my living room, i find that 3 LED spotlights give better lightning compare to CFL tube, and i have to remove one of the LED to reduce the brightness, the rest of the LED point to the ceiling to diffuse the lights around my living room, even when i sleep on my sofa with lights on, it does not appear glaring to my eyes

another downside of using LED downlight is that if you place them directly above sofa, it's brightness might be glaring when you look up or taking a nap with lights on and you can adjust them like track lights
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post Jun 11 2019, 12:42 PM

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Assuming using full eyeball and 8.5-9 ft ceiling height

1.) How far from wall does the eyeball lights need to be? 1 feet ? 2 feet?
2.) What is the spacing between eyeball ? 4 feet?

eyeball lights power?6W ,8w?

Power per unit sf?



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Another question is , do the electrical first or do the plaster ceiling first?

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 11 2019, 01:05 PM)
Another question is , do the electrical first or do the plaster ceiling first?
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of course wiring first so that plaster ceiling will conceal all the wiring
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post Jul 17 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 3 2019, 08:59 PM)
I have both and both uses the same MR16 LED bulbs. They look like those halogen bulbs of yesteryears.
If you have plaster ceiling, then just buy the eyeball. Installing tracks can be expensive as those technicians charge per foot run.
Lucky my friend installed for me. Mine is about 24 feet long and I have two of these (the other one shorter - about 15ft)
So imagine if they charge per foot run....becomes very expensive liao.
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Do you have pictures of your place with the lights?
I want to figure out how many eyeball lights to put for the area.



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post Jul 17 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 17 2019, 03:01 PM)
Hi

Do you have pictures of your place with the lights?
I want to figure out how many eyeball lights to put for the area.
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Search tracklight and eyeball with my username.
Here is one
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4794362/+20
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post Jul 18 2019, 02:12 PM

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I once saw a house whereby with one switch it can change color. There are 3 colors, white, cool and warm. What is such a function called? When I Google I get those rainbow type of colors but I just want a simple one depending on the mood, not the rainbow disco type of colors.

Is this kind of bulb as durable as a single color bulb or less durable?
I assume the cost of the bulb will be higher but will there be much difference?
How about for the wiring? Big difference?
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post Jul 18 2019, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(barca96 @ Jul 18 2019, 02:12 PM)
I once saw a house whereby with one switch it can change color.  There are 3 colors, white, cool and warm. What is such a function called? When I Google I get those rainbow type of colors but I just want a simple one depending on the mood, not the rainbow disco type of colors.

Is this kind of bulb as durable as a single color bulb or less durable?
I assume the cost of the bulb will be higher but will there be much difference?
How about for the wiring? Big difference?
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this kind of light usually doesn't last long, i would suggest you to avoid.. laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(barca96 @ Jul 18 2019, 02:12 PM)
I once saw a house whereby with one switch it can change color.  There are 3 colors, white, cool and warm. What is such a function called? When I Google I get those rainbow type of colors but I just want a simple one depending on the mood, not the rainbow disco type of colors.

Is this kind of bulb as durable as a single color bulb or less durable?
I assume the cost of the bulb will be higher but will there be much difference?
How about for the wiring? Big difference?
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Those kind changes the color by turning off and on. Not very practical in my opinion.


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post Jul 18 2019, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Jul 18 2019, 02:23 PM)
this kind of light usually doesn't last long, i would suggest you to avoid..  laugh.gif
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post Jul 18 2019, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 18 2019, 02:55 PM)
Those kind changes the color by turning off and on. Not very practical in my opinion.
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tq...

I liked it because you can change the mood.. and needs..
sometimes you need it very bright when cleaning or looking for something..
sometimes just want it mellow... especially late at night..
any suggestion?
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post Jul 18 2019, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(barca96 @ Jul 18 2019, 02:12 PM)
I once saw a house whereby with one switch it can change color.  There are 3 colors, white, cool and warm. What is such a function called? When I Google I get those rainbow type of colors but I just want a simple one depending on the mood, not the rainbow disco type of colors.

Is this kind of bulb as durable as a single color bulb or less durable?
I assume the cost of the bulb will be higher but will there be much difference?
How about for the wiring? Big difference?
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https://shopee.com.my/product/41010146/779196376?smtt=0.0.9

Or if you need a light bulb type then you will need smart bulbs that can change color temperature, can dim, and some got colors

This post has been edited by idoblu: Jul 18 2019, 10:12 PM
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post Jul 19 2019, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jul 18 2019, 10:11 PM)
https://shopee.com.my/product/41010146/779196376?smtt=0.0.9

Or if you need a light bulb type then you will need smart bulbs that can change color temperature, can dim, and some got colors
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Hi sifu here, would like to get some feedback on my upcoming apartment DIY project:

800 SF, 3r 2b, ceiling height 8-9ft

For the three bedroom, I'm planning to get 24w cool white each, will it be sufficient? Especially for master bedroom.

For the two bathrooms, I'm planning to get 18w daylight, it's a small bathroom should be ok?

And is there any unwritten rules that daylight is for bathroom and cool white is for living space ? Any general preferences ?

Thanks.

 

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