'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (13) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0 2017 Beat Chelsea 2-1
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
Club just released a statement Mkhi will not join the squad to Baku. Looks like we are stuck with shitty Ozil. Last chance for the useless overpaid prima donna to show that he is at least worth something of that 350k he robs from the club every week.
Club just released a statement Mkhi will not join the squad to Baku. Looks like we are stuck with shitty Ozil. Last chance for the useless overpaid prima donna to show that he is at least worth something of that 350k he robs from the club every week.
Shame on uefa for poor venue and shame on politician
Arsenal managing director keen to avoid Aaron Ramsey contract repeat
Arsenal's managing director Vinai Venkatesham has revealed the club will look to sell anyone entering the final two years of their contract should they not wish to renew their deals.
That will have direct implications for Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, Mesut Ozil, Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Shkodran Mustafi and Sokratis Papastathopoulos this summer, who all see their deals run out in 2021.
Laurent Koscielny also has just a single year remaining on his contract - and Venkatesham has admitted this policy is to avoid situations like key player Aaron Ramsey joining Juventus on a free transfer this summer.
"When we are selling players we need to maximise the funds we get to reinvest in the team," Venkatesham told the club's website.
"We need to be really disciplined when we are dealing with senior players who are not towards the end of their careers.
"That means we have to start making the difficult decisions when they have two years left on their contracts. We're either going to renew those contracts or we're going to be selling them.
"We have to be brave in those decisions because we can't be in a situation where we're allowing players to walk out of the door for free unless they are coming towards the end of their careers."
Alexis Sanchez left for Manchester United on a swap deal with Mkhitaryan in January 2018, to avoid him losing him for nothing in the summer.
Extend contract of Auba and Laca first I think. Sell Ozil and Miki, if there is a good replacement. Also maybe give Nelson, Smith Rowe and Saka more chance to play. The young lads are really good up front.
ARSENE WENGER has become an internet sensation after a mis-match made in heaven turned into hell for Zinedine Zidane.
Former Arsenal manager Wenger, 69, who spent his playing career in the lower leagues, was snapped in a charity game evading 46-year-old Bernabeu boss Zidane, an all-time great player for France and Real Madrid.
Good night guys. Tough luck. We didn’t score when we were on top in the first half. Ref f-ed us as well by not giving us a penalty. Try again next year.
The mistake was that he "concentrated" on the cup in the first place. I still do not know how we can lose our home games. If say champions league was secured, then there would not be so much pressure.
Just dunno how Unai can just "forgo" the EPL to "concentrate" on the Europa. Really need to get his head check.
well … sums up our season … inconsistent and players are not good enough.
guess rebuilding will take a little while more since no UCL money for us.
next season is going to be a tough season. let's hope unai get the players he wants - cheaper less-known players who willing to fight than our current bunch of prima-donnas.
Still waiting for the people who has no life to dig up my posts spanning the last 10 years and tell me how wrong was I to criticize these players. Oh wait. Season end already. Try again next year k. Maybe next year will be your year.
That's why I didn't even need to reply ever since the Bournemouth match. All I had to do is just wait and results and performances will ultimately prove my point and indeed they have.
I really do not envy Unai's job of rebuilding this team. Tremendous amount of work needs to be done, not to mention, the money as well, in which we do not look like we have at all.
It's going to be another long season next year....
A large part of the blame has to be put on unai as well. He never realize that champion league football is more important then the Europa cup itself. If he put his best players, we will get forth. Now he looks like a clown to me.
Ozil statistic for this season.. 2 assist 55% shot accuracy. Lul
Kejadah makan gaji je. Lol. I thought it's at least 4-5
Totally should sell, not just him, a bunch more. Since there won't be much money, unless there is a boost at some point, there is no way we can get like 2 good players with current budget.
Kejadah makan gaji je. Lol. I thought it's at least 4-5
Totally should sell, not just him, a bunch more. Since there won't be much money, unless there is a boost at some point, there is no way we can get like 2 good players with current budget.
Also missing a leader in the squad.
my boss told me if you pay peanuts you got monkey.
Ornstein said we could have an extra of about 60m if we win Europa, which is around 100m. Sadly only 40m since we didn't make it.
Also harder to attract anyone since there is no UCL.
yup around 45m only..we can't get another version of van dick or great pogback with this amount of budget..and our usmanov and kroenke dont give fark to add a few million.. we must accept that we are midtable team now and sell our deadwoods..
yup around 45m only..we can't get another version of van dick or great pogback with this amount of budget..and our usmanov and kroenke dont give fark to add a few million.. we must accept that we are midtable team now and sell our deadwoods..
Unai already mentioned some player must go. So I guess he has some plans already. Not expecting much next season still it will be awhile before we can actually compete properly.
Unai already mentioned some player must go. So I guess he has some plans already. Not expecting much next season still it will be awhile before we can actually compete properly.
well, I guess next season's target is very similar with this season … 4th place.
hope we can get rid of some players.
players n manager is to be blamed for this season's failure … but let's back unai for next season, hopefully some sign of recovery.
Unai already mentioned some player must go. So I guess he has some plans already. Not expecting much next season still it will be awhile before we can actually compete properly.
Unai last press conference got mention give our youngster more chance too. I bet he will start willock, Nelson, Smith Rowe next season or set them on the bench.
Good also lah, some of our starting lineup players r worst den our academy player..no heart whatsoever.. Get rid of toxic players n rebuild.
I hope the 40m budget is all in to find Ozil replacement.. proper no10 player that can dribble the ball from middle n pass the ball to our striker zzz
Unai last press conference got mention give our youngster more chance too. I bet he will start willock, Nelson, Smith Rowe next season or set them on the bench.
Good also lah, some of our starting lineup players r worst den our academy player..no heart whatsoever.. Get rid of toxic players n rebuild.
I hope the 40m budget is all in to find Ozil replacement.. proper no10 player that can dribble the ball from middle n pass the ball to our striker zzz
I want those 3 young lads to play as well. Back during Wenger days he is more bold when to comes to starting young players, but Unai mostly playing safe besides playing Guen lol.
Ozil case I think there is a fallout between Unai and him mostly. So far his worse season I think with us lol. Just sell tbh, since Unai didn't like him anyway, it's just him wanting to stay. All our defenders also should be sold lol.
There is news that some people want Unai to be sacked in the club How true not sure, but I doubt it
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Smith rowe can be another Ramsey. I'm quite impressed with that kid. Nelson... Not sure, looks like he's holding back sometimes. Not brave, got potential good skill and pace tho but not brave.. like theo. Willock is another welbeck. Good squadmate not 1st eleven.
I would love to blame the board too but nothing will change there. it's like talking to a tree.
Realistically I hope that Unai would be given a reasonable warchest for some new players and get rid of the deadwoods.
We definitely won't be shopping like a rich man, so I hope unai and the scouting team would be able to bring in some unknown players who are decent enough.
Smith rowe can be another Ramsey. I'm quite impressed with that kid. Nelson... Not sure, looks like he's holding back sometimes. Not brave, got potential good skill and pace tho but not brave.. like theo. Willock is another welbeck. Good squadmate not 1st eleven.
Nelson actually did ok well in his German loan spells tis season, score sum goal whn he starting.. Nevertheless, hope he can breakthrough next season la..
Klopp’s first 3 seasons were pretty average, inherited average players from brendan rogers. Finished 8th, 4th, 4th and losing 3 finals (league cup, europa cup, champions league) in his first 3 seasons.
Emery actually did better in his first season compared with Klopp and Pochettino’s first season. It’s his players that let him down in the final lap with their weak mentalities.
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Daily Express "Arsenal are willing to pay a percentage of Mesut Ozil's £350,000 weekly wages in order to push a transfer through in the summer window."
Daily Express "Arsenal are willing to pay a percentage of Mesut Ozil's £350,000 weekly wages in order to push a transfer through in the summer window."
this man will be called as parasite then if like that
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Reading about Kroenke.. He definitely won't sell the club ever, well unless he dies and his son does that. Also seeing how different American clubs are managed.. No wonder la we aren't getting much money.
Dude will probably destroy the club, as if not already.
Reading about Kroenke.. He definitely won't sell the club ever, well unless he dies and his son does that. Also seeing how different American clubs are managed.. No wonder la we aren't getting much money.
Dude will probably destroy the club, as if not already.
i'm sure Kroenke won't destroy the club but he is not improving it either.
he only interested in the P&L of the club not the fans or trophy
i'm sure Kroenke won't destroy the club but he is not improving it either.
he only interested in the P&L of the club not the fans or trophy
Well he said he has a plan. His plan will only work if he was able to own Arsenal as a whole. Well we shall see if that ever happens really. So far he is invested elsewhere, but yeah American investment aren't so big like EPL clubs.. so that's one thing.
People also think Newcastle will be a bigger club in a few years time, if that Arab money comes in. Their new manager target is Mourinho or Wenger
Well he said he has a plan. His plan will only work if he was able to own Arsenal as a whole. Well we shall see if that ever happens really. So far he is invested elsewhere, but yeah American investment aren't so big like EPL clubs.. so that's one thing.
People also think Newcastle will be a bigger club in a few years time, if that Arab money comes in. Their new manager target is Mourinho or Wenger
well, good for Newcastle since the Arab are more willing to spend.
I think Mourinho would be more suitable for instant success as Wenger would not be willing to spend the money .
Gary Cahill is good option for young defender to learn from him.
And built good solid partnership with Holding and nurture Chambers. He already loaned 2 times and i tok next season is the year he breakthrough. If not, then he need to go...
Gary Cahill is good option for young defender to learn from him.
And built good solid partnership with Holding and nurture Chambers. He already loaned 2 times and i tok next season is the year he breakthrough. If not, then he need to go...
Cahill hates Arsenal Remember back when we want him.. He just doesn't like us.
Arsenal is the top 10 riches club in the world but want to act cheap, just follow Ajax, Porto, Monaco style playing youth and become selling club ffs..
Damn pissed of with how quiet we're this transfer window..
Arsenal is the top 10 riches club in the world but want to act cheap, just follow Ajax, Porto, Monaco style playing youth and become selling club ffs..
Damn pissed of with how quiet we're this transfer window..
Arsenal is the top 10 riches club in the world but want to act cheap, just follow Ajax, Porto, Monaco style playing youth and become selling club ffs..
Damn pissed of with how quiet we're this transfer window..
If we can sell ozil with high amount of money, we can buy 1 or 2 good player. I know no club will bid for him or pay his 350k outrageous salary. We stuck with him until he retire or some chinese club gonna buy him...we can only hope.
If we can sell ozil with high amount of money, we can buy 1 or 2 good player. I know no club will bid for him or pay his 350k outrageous salary. We stuck with him until he retire or some chinese club gonna buy him...we can only hope.
ozil will rather sit on arsenal bench till contract end than joining chinese club..
this ozil mess is wenger's fault... he renew him with massive contract.. indrectly causing ramsey to leave for free.. and also becoz of ozil we didnt resign fabregas from barca..
still krik krik about new guys even after wonga gone..our owners dont like the word 'spending' and we will buying someone from china league?c'mon buy someone from major league..
still krik krik about new guys even after wonga gone..our owners dont like the word 'spending' and we will buying someone from china league?c'mon buy someone from major league..
30 mil warchest … got to be very careful on the spending.
Reyes was a freaking signing ... I can only imagine the wonderful memories he would have brought us if he stays long enough for us. same with anelka.
Anelka a definite yes but Reyes, nah, I highly doubt so. Reyes would've just regressed with us if he stayed any longer than he did. IMO we sold him at the right time. He would've created toxic memories instead.
By the time he left he had been ruined by Scholes and the ugly Neville sisters back in the day when Sir Alex Ferguson and Man U had the refs in their pocket. He was also homesick and his performances had begun to show of player who no longer wanted to remain at the club. Not to mention the Spanish radio prank incident with an alleged Real Madrid "representative" which turned a lot of fans against him.
Wonderful player but sadly just not up there mentally.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Jun 26 2019, 03:20 AM
Anelka a definite yes but Reyes, nah, I highly doubt so. Reyes would've just regressed with us if he stayed any longer than he did. IMO we sold him at the right time. He would've created toxic memories instead.
By the time he left he had been ruined by Scholes and the ugly Neville sisters back in the day when Sir Alex Ferguson and Man U had the refs in their pocket. He was also homesick and his performances had begun to show of player who no longer wanted to remain at the club. Not to mention the Spanish radio prank incident with an alleged Real Madrid "representative" which turned a lot of fans against him.
Wonderful player but sadly just not up there mentally.
I still think Reyes would be an arsenal legend if he stays on with his exceptional skill. but I do agree with you that he wasn't mentally ready for us (or playing abroad) and his homesick.
what's else we can blame for this round of transfer window? macam nothing can blame beside the board of arsenal...
Board? Meaning the real owner of the club? If there is no new cash injection, Arsenal fans should be happy to be just top 4. These days, top 4 is not even a thing anymore. Is more like top 6.
Ornstein: “Arsenal have tried to sell Mustafi pretty much every window after they’ve signed him.”
I can’t decide if this is funny or sad lol
This is a good news and also a pathetic news because the person who signed him is dense. The scout(s) is buffoon. And seeing Sven Mislintat got boot out is a joy.
Instead of scouting for new players, we should scout for new owners thou.
Pretty much useless owner with no ambition at all.
Kroenke is here to leech every soul, spirit and cash out of Arsenal FC until everything goes south. At this rate, I would prefer Roman Abramovich than him.
14.51 BST: The Mirror reports that Arsenal are one of four Premier League clubs "considering a summer swoop for former Chelsea captain Gary Cahill." The 33-year-old defender, a free agent at the end of this month, has also been linked with West Ham, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace.
hahaha ... partnering sanchez ? pity him, man utd really wasted his talent. how the hell from a player that shoulder the whole club to this. really can't brain this .
i don't think we have that much to spend unless it was funded with a sales like Aubameyang to Man Utd, which i hope not.
If we sell our top goal scoring player again to a rival who have the same ambition to be in the top 4, that is not business, its dumb and plain stupid.
If we sell our top goal scoring player again to a rival who have the same ambition to be in the top 4, that is not business, its dumb and plain stupid.
If we sell our top goal scoring player again to a rival who have the same ambition to be in the top 4, that is not business, its dumb and plain stupid.
for kronke it's totally business, since he is not putting in a dime to our transfer kitty.
anyway unless the player wanted to leave (like sanchez), if not then no way we should sell our best players to a competitor.
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Hmm, Adidas Malaysia have yet to have the new jerseys, only the pre-match and training ones are out. Any news when will the match jersey be sold locally?
Hmm, Adidas Malaysia have yet to have the new jerseys, only the pre-match and training ones are out. Any news when will the match jersey be sold locally?
Pergi dalam pukul 12 tadi kat KLCC. The staffers themselves don't have any idea when the jersey will start to be sold, and only have these at hand
ProtechKitzone listed the jersey will be available from 19th July onwards for them and usually they are one of the earliest to stock the latest jerseys.
I suspect it will be more or less around then as well that we will see them in Adidas stores.
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Jul 2 2019, 04:46 AM)
ProtechKitzone listed the jersey will be available from 19th July onwards for them and usually they are one of the earliest to stock the latest jerseys.
I suspect it will be more or less around then as well that we will see them in Adidas stores.
Adoi. Quite lewat. And I have a doubt of the availability of XXXL here. Haih. I might just use Arsenal Direct in this case
Reports coming out Nacho has mutually terminated his contract with Arsenal.
The management of this club is truly a shambles. We could have gotten a few mill and his wage off the wage bill at the same time had we sold him and interest in him from Spain was pretty high.
Plus Nacho does not deserve this sort of treatment at all. Disgraceful.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Jul 4 2019, 04:38 AM
Reports coming out Nacho has mutually terminated his contract with Arsenal.
The management of this club is truly a shambles. We could have gotten a few mill and his wage off the wage bill at the same time had we sold him and interest in him from Spain was pretty high.
Plus Nacho does not deserve this sort of treatment at all. Disgraceful.
If it is true, the club is a disgrace.
Bought him as a backup, but end up our best LB in a long time.
Reports coming out Nacho has mutually terminated his contract with Arsenal.
The management of this club is truly a shambles. We could have gotten a few mill and his wage off the wage bill at the same time had we sold him and interest in him from Spain was pretty high.
Plus Nacho does not deserve this sort of treatment at all. Disgraceful.
If that's true, this is a bloody disgrace though, he is one of the most committed players on the pitch everytime he plays. #LostofIntegrity #LostofIdentity
If that's true, this is a bloody disgrace though, he is one of the most committed players on the pitch everytime he plays. #LostofIntegrity #LostofIdentity
Reports coming out Nacho has mutually terminated his contract with Arsenal.
The management of this club is truly a shambles. We could have gotten a few mill and his wage off the wage bill at the same time had we sold him and interest in him from Spain was pretty high.
Plus Nacho does not deserve this sort of treatment at all. Disgraceful.
Some said mutual termination, some said he will be back on pre-season training.
but the europa league final money is higher than ucl round of 16 tahniah
Europa League finalist prize money: Base fee for group stage: €2,920,000 + 5 x Group match victory: €570,000 + 1 x Group match draw: €190,000 + Group winners: €1,000,000 + Round of 32: €500,000 + Round of 16: €1,100,000 + Quarter-finals: €1,500,000 + Semi-finals: €2,400,000 + Losing finalist: €4,500,000 = €16,960,000 + TV money
Champions league round of 16 prize money: Base fee for group stage: €15,250,000 + X Group match victory: €2,700,000 + X Group match draw: €900,000 + Round of 16: €9,500,000 = €24,750,000 + victory/draw + TV money
Europa League finalist prize money: Base fee for group stage: €2,920,000 + 5 x Group match victory: €570,000 + 1 x Group match draw: €190,000 + Group winners: €1,000,000 + Round of 32: €500,000 + Round of 16: €1,100,000 + Quarter-finals: €1,500,000 + Semi-finals: €2,400,000 + Losing finalist: €4,500,000 = €16,960,000 + TV money
Champions league round of 16 prize money: Base fee for group stage: €15,250,000 + X Group match victory: €2,700,000 + X Group match draw: €900,000 + Round of 16: €9,500,000 = €24,750,000 + victory/draw + TV money
yeah I think that's about right. being is the UCL (even in group) is still better than winning Europa.
and he did it bar once with an even more average squad. We had far worst than Mustafi too
yes he did it with the financial constraint, however then competitors then wasn't as strong. Of course the more consistent team during that period was Man Utd and Chelsea. Liverpool and Spurs wasn't consistent while City just got their wealth.
wenger could have done better during his last 2-3 years, the players that he brought in wasn't as good or consistent.
so basically we used almost 80% of our war chest quota just to buy a 18yrs old kid den loan him to france... wat kind of bs is tis... another case 30mils tangan kiri transfer to tangan kanan?? si tua ni nak cuci duit ka? mcmc tlg siasat si mofo kroenke ni pls..
so basically we used almost 80% of our war chest quota just to buy a 18yrs old kid den loan him to france... wat kind of bs is tis... another case 30mils tangan kiri transfer to tangan kanan?? si tua ni nak cuci duit ka? mcmc tlg siasat si mofo kroenke ni pls..
It will be instalment, details to be confirmed. Based on ornstein, they will ensure this deal use 0% of our fund in this window.
so basically we used almost 80% of our war chest quota just to buy a 18yrs old kid den loan him to france... wat kind of bs is tis... another case 30mils tangan kiri transfer to tangan kanan?? si tua ni nak cuci duit ka? mcmc tlg siasat si mofo kroenke ni pls..
It will be instalment, details to be confirmed. Based on ornstein, they will ensure this deal use 0% of our fund in this window.
Let wait and see will our remaining fund in this window invest in another player(s). But I dun see with our current budget can meet any of our targets asking prices.
Arsenal/Koscielny talks late last season looked +ve. Back from break, asked for release, refused. Relayed tour decision Wed, confirmed @ Colney today. Flight 1230 without him. Not stripped of captaincy yet, must train or breach contract. #AFC have no offers, he does if free agent - Ornstein.
If u guys noticed, in the past 10 years. Anyone who becomes arsenal captain will immediately suffer long term injury, have his vice captains the whole season, pastu retired or kena jual
If u guys noticed, in the past 10 years. Anyone who becomes arsenal captain will immediately suffer long term injury, have his vice captains the whole season, pastu retired or kena jual
so basically we used almost 80% of our war chest quota just to buy a 18yrs old kid den loan him to france... wat kind of bs is tis... another case 30mils tangan kiri transfer to tangan kanan?? si tua ni nak cuci duit ka? mcmc tlg siasat si mofo kroenke ni pls..
Buy now for 30m but had to loan back to his club for 1 season because his club valued him more than 30m. And since Arsenal is not able to pay more than that or trigger the buy out clause, Arsenal had to agree with such deal. Next season, he could be more than 40m and with more competition from other clubs. Arsenal would get boned even harder for a huge potential superstar 20 or 21 yo player.
This post has been edited by Meis: Jul 12 2019, 12:45 AM
I read it somewhere that he wanted to leave, going back to France for one more last season while he still can. Probably homesick. So yea.
Still doesn't give you the excuse to be absolutely unprofessional and throw a tantrum like a spoiled brat to the hand that has literally fed you and stood by you all these years despite your problems. The least you could do is to negotiate nicely and if the club does not accept your request, honor your contract till the very end like a true professional. After all there is only a year left.
No wonder leadership has always seemed to be the problem when the Captain is like this.
The club owes him absolutely nothing. Arsenal stuck by him through all his injuries and virtually made him into who he is today after plucking him out from the depths of Ligue 2.
Way to go to spoil your legacy and the respect everyone has for you. Ungrateful prick.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Jul 12 2019, 01:58 AM
Still doesn't give you the excuse to be absolutely unprofessional and throw a tantrum like a spoiled brat to the hand that has literally fed you and stood by you all these years despite your problems. The least you could do is to negotiate nicely and if the club does not accept your request, honor your contract till the very end like a true professional. After all there is only a year left.
No wonder leadership has always seemed to be the problem when the Captain is like this.
The club owes him absolutely nothing. Arsenal stuck by him through all his injuries and virtually made him into who he is today after plucking him out from the depths of Ligue 2.
Way to go to spoil your legacy and the respect everyone has for you. Ungrateful prick.
someone talk bullshit about professionalism here. Don't be a dog to your employer la. his contract is one year optional and arsenal exercised it. He also has a right not to accept the exercise la if he does not want to. If he is bad, he will perform bad in his last season so arsenal could sell him.
This is like probation period for someone to work in a Company. both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit. Koscielny has right to quit the contract too.
Arsenal as a club should let him go if his heart is not in London anymore. What's the point to play someone who has no heart and homesick.
This post has been edited by L.Torreira: Jul 12 2019, 02:30 AM
someone talk bullshit about professionalism here. Don't be a dog to your employer la. his contract is one year optional and arsenal exercised it. He also has a right not to accept the exercise la if he does not want to. If he is bad, he will perform bad in his last season so arsenal could sell him.
This is like probation period for someone to work in a Company. both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit. Koscielny has right to quit the contract too.
Arsenal as a club should let him go if his heart is not in London anymore. What's the point to play someone who has no heart and homesick.
Which Kos clearly is now. Being a dog to his employer
The option stated in the contract, is that it is optional for Arsenal to extend it and NOT Koscielny, he has no right or claim to whatever decision Arsenal makes,and if Arsenal chooses to extend it, like Arsenal has, then he is contracted to Arsenal for an additional year whether he wants it or not. Simple as that.
And still being contracted to Arsenal, he is liable to whatever terms that is spelled out in that contract he agreed and signed since day 1 till the very last day of his employment which has now been extended an additional year. Any other way and it will be a BREACH in contract.
As things remain the only way out for Koscielny is to buy out the remaining year, or convince Arsenal to mutually terminate. But as far as his contract goes, he is legally contracted to provide an additional year's service to Arsenal because Arsenal exercised that option.
Also please use some common sense, even the stupid example you gave, "both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit." If the employee has any say or power to decide things even if the employer from your stupid example wants you to stay after probation but you want to leave you can just leave without any repercussion and the employer wouldn't have been able to do a thing. It is obvious it doesn't work that way with football contracts because if it was like as you said, Koscielny could've just left and there would be no consequences. He would not have needed to beg Arsenal for mutual termination and there would have been no need to pull off any of his stupid antics like refusing to go on tour like a spoiled child.
Also if Koscielny had any right to quit the contract at all, he could've just walked away and it wouldn't be regarded as BREACH of contract.
QUOTE
"Arsenal/Koscielny talks late last season looked +ve. Back from break, asked for release, refused. Relayed tour decision Wed, confirmed @ Colney today. Flight 1230 without him. Not stripped of captaincy yet, must train or breach contract. #AFC have no offers, he does if free agent"
— David Ornstein (@bbcsport_david) July 11, 2019
Please get your facts right before spouting bullshit from your hole up top instead of from the hole down below.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Jul 12 2019, 04:22 AM
someone talk bullshit about professionalism here. Don't be a dog to your employer la. his contract is one year optional and arsenal exercised it. He also has a right not to accept the exercise la if he does not want to. If he is bad, he will perform bad in his last season so arsenal could sell him.
This is like probation period for someone to work in a Company. both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit. Koscielny has right to quit the contract too.
Arsenal as a club should let him go if his heart is not in London anymore. What's the point to play someone who has no heart and homesick.
Mutual respect. No point to keep an bad apple or soulless player. He is here for Arsene Wenger. Just to remind you guys.
someone talk bullshit about professionalism here. Don't be a dog to your employer la. his contract is one year optional and arsenal exercised it. He also has a right not to accept the exercise la if he does not want to. If he is bad, he will perform bad in his last season so arsenal could sell him.
This is like probation period for someone to work in a Company. both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit. Koscielny has right to quit the contract too.
Arsenal as a club should let him go if his heart is not in London anymore. What's the point to play someone who has no heart and homesick.
First time i heard u dont do anything wrong if u breach a contract that u yourself signed 😁😁
Which Kos clearly is now. Being a dog to his employer
The option stated in the contract, is that it is optional for Arsenal to extend it and NOT Koscielny, he has no right or claim to whatever decision Arsenal makes,and if Arsenal chooses to extend it, like Arsenal has, then he is contracted to Arsenal for an additional year whether he wants it or not. Simple as that.
And still being contracted to Arsenal, he is liable to whatever terms that is spelled out in that contract he agreed and signed since day 1 till the very last day of his employment which has now been extended an additional year. Any other way and it will be a BREACH in contract.
As things remain the only way out for Koscielny is to buy out the remaining year, or convince Arsenal to mutually terminate. But as far as his contract goes, he is legally contracted to provide an additional year's service to Arsenal because Arsenal exercised that option.
Also please use some common sense, even the stupid example you gave, "both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit." If the employee has any say or power to decide things even if the employer from your stupid example wants you to stay after probation but you want to leave you can just leave without any repercussion and the employer wouldn't have been able to do a thing. It is obvious it doesn't work that way with football contracts because if it was like as you said, Koscielny could've just left and there would be no consequences. He would not have needed to beg Arsenal for mutual termination and there would have been no need to pull off any of his stupid antics like refusing to go on tour like a spoiled child.
Also if Koscielny had any right to quit the contract at all, he could've just walked away and it wouldn't be regarded as BREACH of contract.
On legal and technical terms, he was being a spoil brat and unprofessional. You are right on that. Granted that, he was also practicing his right to protest. On legal terms, the club can fine him. But however, if the club decided not to do so and forgave him, he might feel regret and go along with the club's decision. Arsenal should have just sell him. The bad apple is screwing up the team's morale.
Anyhow, he is no longer the Kos that we used to know. He is here for Arsene Wenger. Just to remind you guys.
This post has been edited by Meis: Jul 12 2019, 07:55 AM
On legal and technical terms, he was being a spoil brat and unprofessional. You are right on that. Granted that, he was also practicing his right to protest. On legal terms, the club can fine him. But however, if the club decided not to do so and forgave him, he might feel regret and go along with the club's decision. Arsenal should have just sell him. The bad apple is screwing up the team's morale.
Anyhow, he is no longer the Kos that we used to know. He is here for Arsene Wenger. Just to remind you guys.
Right to protest? Based on what grounds and what is Koscielny actually protesting? Protesting that Arsenal chose to exercise a clause in his contract he knew about since day 1, agreed upon and signed himself? LOL please la........
Anyway he is a shit player now and way past it. I am grateful for what he has done for the club, but it’s not like the club or the fans, who have compensated him well and have supported him through thick and thin respectively, owe him anything. To me it is actually a blessing he pulled this stunt which will more or less cement his departure from the club and force Arsenal to maybe step up a search for a new CB. Good riddance.
Which Kos clearly is now. Being a dog to his employer
The option stated in the contract, is that it is optional for Arsenal to extend it and NOT Koscielny, he has no right or claim to whatever decision Arsenal makes,and if Arsenal chooses to extend it, like Arsenal has, then he is contracted to Arsenal for an additional year whether he wants it or not. Simple as that.
And still being contracted to Arsenal, he is liable to whatever terms that is spelled out in that contract he agreed and signed since day 1 till the very last day of his employment which has now been extended an additional year. Any other way and it will be a BREACH in contract.
As things remain the only way out for Koscielny is to buy out the remaining year, or convince Arsenal to mutually terminate. But as far as his contract goes, he is legally contracted to provide an additional year's service to Arsenal because Arsenal exercised that option.
Also please use some common sense, even the stupid example you gave, "both employee and employer can have option to extend or to quit." If the employee has any say or power to decide things even if the employer from your stupid example wants you to stay after probation but you want to leave you can just leave without any repercussion and the employer wouldn't have been able to do a thing. It is obvious it doesn't work that way with football contracts because if it was like as you said, Koscielny could've just left and there would be no consequences. He would not have needed to beg Arsenal for mutual termination and there would have been no need to pull off any of his stupid antics like refusing to go on tour like a spoiled child.
Also if Koscielny had any right to quit the contract at all, he could've just walked away and it wouldn't be regarded as BREACH of contract. Please get your facts right before spouting bullshit from your hole up top instead of from the hole down below.
don't be hypocrite.
your aubaclatyang also had refused to train with dortmund. if you are not hypocrite you should condemn him as unprofessional too.
Are you seriously just plain stupid or just plain thick and dense as a brick?
Do I look like I am a freaking Dortmund fan or do I even give a single shit about what happens at Dortmund?
Auba was unprofessional at Dortmund, that I won't deny, and Dortmund fans or anyone associated with Dortmund have every right to be angry and disappointed with him over this, plus things like this are never nice to see or hear about irregardless of who you support. But the most important thing is, he is at Arsenal now and as far as I am concerned, as an Arsenal fan who doesn't give a fk about what happens at any other team, as long as he or any other of the players keeps themselves in check whilst contracted to Arsenal I am fine.
He hasn't done anything wrong at Arsenal so far hasn't he? Feel free to label me a hypocrite if I fail to call him or any other Arsenal player out for that matter if they pull off the same shitty, childish antics and acts unprofessionally like Koscielny has while still contracted to Arsenal. But until then, just sit tight and stop embarrassing yourself.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Jul 12 2019, 10:05 PM
Are you seriously just plain stupid or just plain thick and dense as a brick?
Do I look like I am a freaking Dortmund fan or do I even give a single shit about what happens at Dortmund?
Auba was unprofessional at Dortmund, that I won't deny, and Dortmund fans or anyone associated with Dortmund have every right to be angry and disappointed with him over this, plus things like this are never nice to see or hear about irregardless of who you support. But the most important thing is, he is at Arsenal now and as far as I am concerned, as an Arsenal fan who doesn't give a fk about what happens at any other team, as long as he or any other of the players keeps themselves in check whilst contracted to Arsenal I am fine.
He hasn't done anything wrong at Arsenal so far hasn't he? Feel free to label me a hypocrite if I fail to call him or any other Arsenal player out for that matter if they pull off the same shitty, childish antics and acts unprofessionally like Koscielny has while still contracted to Arsenal. But until then, just sit tight and stop embarrassing yourself.
then you are selfish prick who think about yourself and wanna win an argument. Koscielny also later after leave arsenal also fine at new club. just forget it right. you funny as a fan. wanna koscielny to leave but keep saying unprofessional. you should thank him rather than talk biatch about him.
funny funny.. I am as arsenal fan is happy he is leaving. why should I need to say bad about him and say he is unprofessional. he is already professional with his perfomance last year. he wanna leave let him leave la.
then you are selfish prick who think about yourself and wanna win an argument. Koscielny also later after leave arsenal also fine at new club. just forget it right. you funny as a fan. wanna koscielny to leave but keep saying unprofessional. you should thank him rather than talk biatch about him.
funny funny.. I am as arsenal fan is happy he is leaving. why should I need to say bad about him and say he is unprofessional. he is already professional with his perfomance last year. he wanna leave let him leave la.
Like I said, I am grateful for what he has contributed to the club, but it doesn't take away the fact that what he has done clearly violates the terms of his contract while still contracted to Arsenal. And that is unprofessional behavior. Simple as that.
The only person who is a selfish prick and wants to win an argument here is you. You have been repeatedly proven wrong and shown to know absolutely jack shit about contracts and legality yet you still refuse to let it go and is being unreasonable here.
If Koscielny wants to leave he can, but only provided Arsenal gives consent, which they didn't. So be a professional, and honor the contract which he is obligated to, in which he himself have gone through, agreed and signed it in the first place, instead of acting like a spoiled brat, stamping his feet like a big baby refusing to go on tour just because the club refused his request which Arsenal has every right to. And I hope Arsenal fines and disciplines him nicely to show that this sort of unprofessional behavior will not be tolerated.
Whether Arsenal is morally right or wrong to not accept his request is another matter altogether. But for discussion sake I would have supported the decision to mutually terminate his contract and let him leave as a sign of good will for all the year's of service he has given to the club. I have always maintained that keeping an unhappy player is never healthy for the club and they should be cut loose immediately (since you clearly are too free and have too much time on your hands to dig up old posts you can find my most recent post about Reyes, his homesickness, and how I thought it was right to let him go at that time since he didn't want to remain at the club anymore in a reply to another forummer) because in the long run the club will only be at the losing end when these unhappy players kept at the club against their will under-performs and starts to affect results and everyone else around them.
But Arsenal have chosen to extend his contract and it is what it is.
Just to sum things up, like I have mentioned, I will be happy to see him leave because he is past it, and the wages we can free up from him leaving will contribute into the rebuilding of this squad. And I have also mentioned that I am grateful for what he has done for the club. I am not taking away anything from what he has done for the club and he should be honored in a way that befits his contribution, like maybe a testimonial to mark and thank him for his service but at the same time I condemn him for his recent actions and behavior which was unacceptable, unprofessional and an utter disgrace. Is that so bloody hard to understand? lmao.
Anyway I am ending this here and will no longer reply to any more of your posts on this topic. You can continue being an ignorant fool all you want. I am done here.
Cheers.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Jul 13 2019, 04:53 AM
Right to protest? Based on what grounds and what is Koscielny actually protesting? Protesting that Arsenal chose to exercise a clause in his contract he knew about since day 1, agreed upon and signed himself? LOL please la........
Anyway he is a shit player now and way past it. I am grateful for what he has done for the club, but it’s not like the club or the fans, who have compensated him well and have supported him through thick and thin respectively, owe him anything. To me it is actually a blessing he pulled this stunt which will more or less cement his departure from the club and force Arsenal to maybe step up a search for a new CB. Good riddance.