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Yw. Just sharing, with no compulsion to subscribe to any of my servicesQUOTE(arafat @ Jun 3 2019, 12:10 PM)
Eh? really? Will check my inbox now and get to you. So sorry
Ultimate Discussions of ASB1/2-Financing, questions/comments/criticisms welcome
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Jun 3 2019, 12:15 PM
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Jun 4 2019, 03:23 AM
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 3 2019, 05:05 PM) I'm aware.. I expected the daily adjustments to happen and then calculated as interest charged but at the end or the month.. Usual time.. Then monthly repayment happen as normal the next day.. Amount either increases or decreases, which In turn lengthens or shortens repayment schedules. At least, this is how the bank loans (admittedly non-islamic) I'm aware of function and fairly easy to keep track off as it all tallies. Pay to premium and interest charged is recalculated from next day on and shows up as reduced amount later. Tenure is reduced too. Anyways, I wouldn't bother calling up the bank either just yet.. Wait to hear from others, if they experience the same. If by next month it's still unclear.. Then I know la..Loans.. Unfortunately, it's the ASB2 loan so can't just reapply and terminate.. No ASBF quota. Easiest way is to check from the latest loan details/statement. Id like to analyze yours and share my findings, but I understand it is a very personal matter. These statements are my "raw materials" that I go through and share with my circles. Unfortunately I haven't got any hands on MBB's as most of my circles have migrated to other banks. I have their 2018 loan statements, but our concerns are most likely the interests chargeable during the BR reduction month. I am sure I can see through the numbers if I can get my hands on a loan details/statement. It has to cover the months of March to May 2019 and show the outstanding loan balances throughout the period. I would also need to know the BR + [spread] figures. That's about it. Something like this (without the numbers removed) would be very useful. Any volunteers? ![]() Figure 1. Redacted figures of a loan statement from MBB ASB-financing account |
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Jun 4 2019, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 4 2019, 03:23 AM) Easiest way is to check from the latest loan details/statement. Id like to analyze yours and share my findings, but I understand it is a very personal matter. These statements are my "raw materials" that I go through and share with my circles. Unfortunately I haven't got any hands on MBB's as most of my circles have migrated to other banks. I didn't want to be brought into this thread.. But basically, what I said is as the image you posted.. Notice the dates are consistent.. End of month, first day of month.. On and on.. What changes is profit charged (which I gave the numbers and dates) and loan balance amounts. Monthly Installment remains the same..Then mine changed as per my earlier post. Kindly continue there (if there's anything to add) as I don't fancy /K talks.. Too many kids here..I have their 2018 loan statements, but our concerns are most likely the interests chargeable during the BR reduction month. I am sure I can see through the numbers if I can get my hands on a loan details/statement. It has to cover the months of March to May 2019 and show the outstanding loan balances throughout the period. I would also need to know the BR + [spread] figures. That's about it. Something like this (without the numbers removed) would be very useful. Any volunteers? ![]() Figure 1. Redacted figures of a loan statement from MBB ASB-financing account |
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Jun 4 2019, 11:41 AM
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Hi do you have the latest loan table
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Jun 4 2019, 11:43 AM
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bro,... that is given for 35 yrs where the return is 6.65% guaranteed
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Jun 4 2019, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 4 2019, 11:40 AM) I didn't want to be brought into this thread.. But basically, what I said is as the image you posted.. Notice the dates are consistent.. End of month, first day of month.. On and on.. What changes is profit charged (which I gave the numbers and dates) and loan balance amounts. Monthly Installment remains the same..Then mine changed as per my earlier post. Kindly continue there (if there's anything to add) as I don't fancy /K talks.. Too many kids here.. Ah, for visibility purposes of my sharing and discussions inthe ASB thread in the Finance subforum, I would share my posts in this thread in /k/ - for the visibility which is important. 1. Reach 2. Control QUOTE(Sedih @ Jun 4 2019, 11:41 AM) Yeah, sure. best rate is about 4.75% p.a., for as long as 35 years if your are 30 years old or younger ![]() This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Jun 4 2019, 12:05 PM Attached File(s)
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Jun 4 2019, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 4 2019, 11:59 AM) Ah, for visibility purposes of my sharing and discussions inthe ASB thread in the Finance subforum, I would share my posts in this thread in /k/ - for the visibility which is important. 1. Reach 2. Control |
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Jun 20 2019, 05:04 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I have finished reading all 14 pages, so from my sumary here; (correct me if i am wrong) From 200,000 of initial investment, return after 35 years = 1,812,450.97 Loan repayment is RM 416,665.20 So total gain is RM 1,395,785.77 |
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Jun 20 2019, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(Shiitake @ Jun 20 2019, 05:04 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I have finished reading all 14 pages, so from my sumary here; (correct me if i am wrong) From 200,000 of initial investment, return after 35 years = 1,812,450.97 Loan repayment is RM 416,665.20 So total gain is RM 1,395,785.77 For example, cash investment in ASB vs ASB financing, both would have their own capital outlay. |
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Jun 20 2019, 10:39 PM
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For ASB Financing, how to compute the Zakat?
Does it from the total loan principal? |
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Jun 20 2019, 10:41 PM
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borrow-to-invest, maresia edisi
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Jun 20 2019, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Shiitake @ Jun 20 2019, 10:39 PM) Plenty of discussions on this. It depends whose opinions you would like to listen toQUOTE(alexkos @ Jun 20 2019, 10:41 PM) Yeap, not much different to buying properties as investments. |
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Jun 21 2019, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 2 2019, 02:16 PM) jsut cancel it. With ASB units you can sell it in 2 months. You can't do the same with properties. Stock market confirm crash once bumis dispose all at once because they making loss if interest rate too high. It's silly of the government to start a scheme like this.GG |
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Jun 21 2019, 01:35 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 01:49 AM
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kek 35 years
Tengok amoi pon dah tak boleh tegak tau mase tu. |
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Jun 21 2019, 02:35 AM
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Sorry if stupid question. Let's say I got about 50k on hand and I would like to invest for ASB can I combine it with a loan for another 50k or 100k ?
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Jun 21 2019, 03:17 AM
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Jun 21 2019, 03:29 AM
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boss macam mana nak mempercepatkan penjualan. Jual kat affin lambatnya
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