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 Rebirth of the legendary ZXR250: New ZX-25R, Finally, the *REAL* 250cc sportsbike.

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post Jun 29 2020, 11:17 AM

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Dyno run claims to show 41.8bhp at 15000RPM.

The original ZXR250 made 45 horses at 15,000RPM.

2-stroke 250s like the RGV250 & RS250 pushed out 70 horses at 12000RPM.... if you can keep feeding em expensive synthetic 2T....

https://www.bikewale.com/m/news/48161-dyno-...r-revealed.html
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jun 29 2020, 11:17 AM)
Dyno run claims to show 41.8bhp at 15000RPM.

The original ZXR250 made 45 horses at 15,000RPM.

2-stroke 250s like the RGV250 & RS250 pushed out 70 horses at 12000RPM.... if you can keep feeding em expensive synthetic 2T....

https://www.bikewale.com/m/news/48161-dyno-...r-revealed.html
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The figures are not surprising considering their goal was to increase low to mid range power to make the bike more usable as a daily rider. There's also modern emissions standards to observe.

IMO the biggest weakness of this bike is that it comes with too many modern features that only add to the price for little noticeable gain for the average rider. This bike doesn't need radial front caliper, quickshift, traction control, etc.. The people who want to get it mainly just want a 4 cylinder 250cc for the sound or so they can bypass license restrictions or increased tax associated with higher cc bikes.

If they manufactured ZX25R with regular axial brake caliper, and only ABS as a safety feature (really should be mandatory on all 250+cc bikes now), pricing it around RM 5~8k less, it would be more palatable to more markets.
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:39 PM

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CBR400RR or maybe VFR400 are good contenders.

QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jun 29 2020, 11:17 AM)
Dyno run claims to show 41.8bhp at 15000RPM.

The original ZXR250 made 45 horses at 15,000RPM.

2-stroke 250s like the RGV250 & RS250 pushed out 70 horses at 12000RPM.... if you can keep feeding em expensive synthetic 2T....

https://www.bikewale.com/m/news/48161-dyno-...r-revealed.html
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Original one dyno got ~38bhp. But of course there are different results out there.
2 stroke powerband, we all know la, haha... under 7k kosong punya.
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post Jun 30 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jun 29 2020, 01:05 PM)
The figures are not surprising considering their goal was to increase low to mid range power to make the bike more usable as a daily rider. There's also modern emissions standards to observe.

IMO the biggest weakness of this bike is that it comes with too many modern features that only add to the price for little noticeable gain for the average rider. This bike doesn't need radial front caliper, quickshift, traction control, etc.. The people who want to get it mainly just want a 4 cylinder 250cc for the sound or so they can bypass license restrictions or increased tax associated with higher cc bikes.

If they manufactured ZX25R with regular axial brake caliper, and only ABS as a safety feature (really should be mandatory on all 250+cc bikes now), pricing it around RM 5~8k less, it would be more palatable to more markets.
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Or, they can sell 2 specifications at 2 different price ranges to attract different crowds.
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post Jun 30 2020, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jun 29 2020, 01:05 PM)
The figures are not surprising considering their goal was to increase low to mid range power to make the bike more usable as a daily rider. There's also modern emissions standards to observe.

IMO the biggest weakness of this bike is that it comes with too many modern features that only add to the price for little noticeable gain for the average rider. This bike doesn't need radial front caliper, quickshift, traction control, etc.. The people who want to get it mainly just want a 4 cylinder 250cc for the sound or so they can bypass license restrictions or increased tax associated with higher cc bikes.

If they manufactured ZX25R with regular axial brake caliper, and only ABS as a safety feature (really should be mandatory on all 250+cc bikes now), pricing it around RM 5~8k less, it would be more palatable to more markets.
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Or, they can sell 2 specifications at 2 different price ranges to attract different crowds.
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post Jun 30 2020, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jun 30 2020, 10:32 AM)
Or, they can sell 2 specifications at 2 different price ranges to attract different crowds.
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Having options is great, but it depends on what those specifications are.

I personally don't like it when all safety features are removed in the lower spec version (esp. ABS as mentioned), which is why I don't really agree in this case.

Keep in mind also that some countries will only have one or the other spec, and not both.
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post Jul 1 2020, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(blackbox14 @ Jun 30 2020, 01:23 PM)
Having options is great, but it depends on what those specifications are.

I personally don't like it when all safety features are removed in the lower spec version (esp. ABS as mentioned), which is why I don't really agree in this case.

Keep in mind also that some countries will only have one or the other spec, and not both.
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ABS should be the bare minimum. I agree with this.
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post Jul 4 2020, 05:54 PM

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rumor price from indonesia

non Abs verson is around 98000 rupiah
thats about RM 28k,

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post Jul 10 2020, 04:28 PM

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there you have it.


112,900,000 RUPIAH. So roughly Rm33++K.



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post Jul 10 2020, 04:44 PM

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normal version is 96 juta rupiah
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post Jul 10 2020, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jul 10 2020, 04:44 PM)
normal version is 96 juta rupiah
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that still under 30k here

im sure after tax it will be higer,

also why a limited 2000 unit build a year ?
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post Jul 10 2020, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Dreadlock13 @ Jul 10 2020, 05:12 PM)
that still under 30k here

im sure after tax it will be higer,

also why a limited 2000 unit build a year ?
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ya our excise duty last time is rm400 for ex5, rm1400 for fz150i, dunno now
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post Jul 11 2020, 10:02 PM

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Modenas zx25r
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post Jul 12 2020, 11:49 PM

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OMG THAT BLUE COLORRRRR drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
I was actually determined to get a full black bike, but damn this blue is swaying me

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post Jul 13 2020, 12:52 AM

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drop by kawasaki dealer yesterday, was told all ckd thailand models to be under modenas.

So probably we getting this at good price if under modenas badge.


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QUOTE(nabelon @ Jul 13 2020, 12:52 AM)
drop by kawasaki dealer yesterday, was told all ckd thailand models to be under modenas.

So probably we getting this at good price if under modenas badge.
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drool.gif drool.gif nice!
any idea what price they looking at?

time to group buy Kawasaki emblem brows.gif
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post Jul 13 2020, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jul 13 2020, 01:51 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  nice!
any idea what price they looking at?

time to group buy Kawasaki emblem brows.gif
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Ninja 250 in Indonesia is about rm18k and while here in malaysia is about 23k

That's a 5k different.

Added to the 28k base and 33k se

Should be
33k for non abs
38k for se

If it's under modenas. Then not sure
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post Jul 14 2020, 01:00 PM

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Heard that it won't be in Malaysia market until 2021...?? Sad reaccs only
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post Jul 15 2020, 04:27 PM

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Hm...price would be almost the same as Ninja650

What do you guys think?
Ninja650 or the zx25r ?
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post Jul 15 2020, 05:16 PM

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Edit: Source from PaulTan


Thailand sudah launch. Bila Msia want to launch??

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