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TSZM Fong
post Jul 5 2019, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jul 5 2019, 07:08 PM)
3350 HP Envy x360 13-AG0011AU - R5-3500U, 8GB, 256GB
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Can you check whether it has dual channel RAM? Also if possible, let me know the power limits via AMD uProf - STAPM limit, slow limit, fast limit
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post Jul 7 2019, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 5 2019, 07:13 PM)
Can you check whether it has dual channel RAM? Also if possible, let me know the power limits via AMD uProf - STAPM limit, slow limit, fast limit
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CPUz: Dual Channel RAM

uProf:
STAPM limit - 15.0
Slow limit - 30.0
Fast limi - 25.0
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post Jul 7 2019, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jul 7 2019, 09:49 PM)
CPUz:  Dual Channel RAM

uProf:
STAPM limit - 15.0
Slow limit - 30.0
Fast limi - 25.0
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Thanks for the info
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post Jul 8 2019, 12:00 PM

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Among Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T and HP Envy 13-AH1038TX, which one has better performance and solid build?
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post Jul 8 2019, 12:04 PM

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Among Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T and HP Envy 13-AH1038TX, which one has better performance and solid build?
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Both will throttle - normal in 13 inch Ultrabook with dGPU

Exterior build wise UX333 is better, however QC wise both aren't that great
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post Jul 8 2019, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 12:04 PM)
Both will throttle - normal in 13 inch Ultrabook with dGPU

Exterior build wise UX333 is better, however QC wise both aren't that great
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any recommendation?
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post Jul 8 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 7 2019, 10:48 PM)
Thanks for the info
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Most welcomed. But since I've looked at it, can help with some explanation on what those are?

STAPM, Fast, Slow limits are different TDP at which the CPU starts throttling right?

I am thinking, in laptop mode vs tablet mode, will x360 (or other type of convertible like Yoga) have a different power limit due to constrained cooling?

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post Jul 8 2019, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 8 2019, 12:06 PM)
any recommendation?
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Give me more info: Usage, preference on weight and battery life, mind high sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM
QUOTE(BFGWong @ Jul 8 2019, 12:21 PM)
Most welcomed.  But since I've looked at it, can help with some explanation on what those are?

STAPM, Fast, Slow limits are different TDP at which the CPU starts throttling right?

I am thinking, in laptop mode vs tablet mode, will x360 (or other type of convertible like Yoga) have a different power limit due to constrained cooling?
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Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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post Jul 8 2019, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 12:30 PM)
Give me more info: Usage, preference on weight and battery life, mind high sRGB display and non-upgradeable RAM

Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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More on video editing (4k) + office tasks....

Lightest is the best for travelling
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post Jul 8 2019, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 8 2019, 02:21 PM)
More on video editing (4k) + office tasks....

Lightest is the best for travelling
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Preferred max weight in kg and min battery life in hours? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?
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post Jul 8 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 02:29 PM)
Preferred max weight in kg and min battery life in hours? Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?
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max weight is heavy to carry.


What are the disadvantages of low sRGB?


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post Jul 8 2019, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 8 2019, 02:31 PM)
max weight is heavy to carry.
What are the disadvantages of low sRGB?
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Do you understand my question lol

What is your preferred max weight in kg? Preferred min battery life in hours? Mind non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?

Low sRGB = Colours less vibrant
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post Jul 8 2019, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 12:30 PM)
Fast limit - power limit for the first few seconds (basically useless)
Slow limit - power limit for a long duration until STAPM power reaches slow limit value
STAPM limit - power limit forever - 15w is typical especially for convertible

From what I know, you can adjust performance setting in HP Command Center so maybe you can try to play around that. If you want best performance possible, can try tuning using Ryzenadj. Also, the power limits seem to be higher than the previous Envy x360 13
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Thanks! When I have some time I'll tinker around with the power settings. Now just trying to install things I need to use on it and getting the hang of it.
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post Jul 8 2019, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 02:54 PM)
Do you understand my question lol

What is your preferred max weight in kg? Preferred min battery life in hours? Mind non-upgradeable 8GB RAM?

Low sRGB = Colours less vibrant
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max 1.7kg lo....
Battery life = 3 hours at least....

Prefer upgraable RAM and sRGB
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post Jul 8 2019, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 8 2019, 05:39 PM)
max 1.7kg lo....
Battery life = 3 hours at least....

Prefer upgraable RAM and sRGB
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Upgradeable RAM+high sRGB laptops with <1.7kg weight are quite rare, you might need to pay more...what's your budget?
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post Jul 8 2019, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 06:05 PM)
Upgradeable RAM+high sRGB laptops with <1.7kg weight are quite rare, you might need to pay more...what's your budget?
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If this is the case, then I change my purpose to only office tasks (Excel pivot calculations - quite heavy) and no editing.

As light as possible with good battery life.
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post Jul 8 2019, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 8 2019, 06:16 PM)
If this is the case, then I change my purpose to only office tasks (Excel pivot calculations - quite heavy) and no editing.

As light as possible with good battery life.
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I rephrase my question: Choose 1 only: upgradeable RAM or high sRGB display

What's your budget?
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post Jul 8 2019, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 06:29 PM)
I rephrase my question: Choose 1 only: upgradeable RAM or high sRGB display

What's your budget?
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high sRGB.

2000-4000
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post Jul 8 2019, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jul 8 2019, 07:14 PM)
high sRGB.

2000-4000
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I assumed that you need good battery life (which is >7 hrs from my perspective) not at least 3 hrs

Lenovo Yoga 730 13 customize
Lenovo Yoga S730 81J0005LMJ / KMJ - no USB A
Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ, SP513-52N-58QD
Acer Swift 3 SF314-55-54A3/5699
Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T
Asus Zenbook UX433F-NA6153T / 54T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX362F-AEL294T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX461U-AE1139T
Asus Zenbook UX331F-ALEG010T
HP Envy 13-AH-TX
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 8 2019, 08:47 PM)
I assumed that you need good battery life (which is >7 hrs from my perspective) not at least 3 hrs

Lenovo Yoga 730 13 customize
Lenovo Yoga S730 81J0005LMJ / KMJ - no USB A
Lenovo Ideapad 720s 13 Intel 81BV000BMJ / CMJ
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ, SP513-52N-58QD
Acer Swift 3 SF314-55-54A3/5699
Asus Zenbook UX333F-NA4050T / 051T / 162T
Asus Zenbook UX433F-NA6153T / 54T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX362F-AEL294T
Asus Zenbook Flip UX461U-AE1139T
Asus Zenbook UX331F-ALEG010T
HP Envy 13-AH-TX
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Among all of these,which one is the lightest with great performance?

Many thanks ya brother.

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