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> Mudah conman Wong Jackson car dealer, Careful as i am 6th victim

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TSJMoo1
post Apr 14 2019, 09:14 PM, updated 7y ago

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I have booked a car with a car salesman this afternoon. I have paid RM500 deposit. (Afternoon time)

Then his boss called and told me that the current car owner demanding further 2k to pay ah long urgent. If i dont pay 2k, then the deal is cancel. So i trust and banked in extra 2k (night time around 11.30pm)

This morning they blocked my number.


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I got conned total 2.5k. Very frustrated now.

His account is Public bank
6423393919
Name is wong Jackson
H/p: 01127303477

He blocked my whatsapp but i used another number to text him about the car and he still replying to my new number. It means his scamming activities are still ongoing.

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I have called the company and the boss said i am the 6th victim. After prepare all the evidence i will lodge a police report. I blame for my own stupidity for trusting him.

I hope there is no more further victim. Whoever knows this person please contact me. You will be paid if your information is genuine.

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This post has been edited by JMoo1: Apr 15 2019, 06:29 PM
TSJMoo1
post Apr 14 2019, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Apr 14 2019, 09:22 PM)
Take the money back and move on. It's just a car. Later u push the button ....car dealer cut your brake hose....then u know
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But that is not considered as cheating? After paid up but goods cannot be delivered. Sad.
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post Apr 14 2019, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 14 2019, 09:31 PM)
Now the deal turned sour, u better take ur 500 and jus expose them on social media. Or u can go for tribunal or smthg
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I dont mind about the money but just cannot accept their ethics. I dont believe the owner suddenly dont want to sell. Maybe his other salesman suddenly sold the car to another buyer. And then lied to me me this excuse.
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post Apr 14 2019, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Apr 14 2019, 09:37 PM)
Car dealer just a middle man, if the money not yet reach the car owner, i don't think there is anything wrong
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I banked in to that car dealer boss bank account. Not concrete evidence?
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post Apr 14 2019, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Apr 14 2019, 09:48 PM)
I mean car owner haven't receive money... Until then, i think he still can cancel...
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He just told me to pay full payment by today only can take car tomorrow. I said where got such thing so ridiculous?

Are you that owner family? Because you seem support his ethics. Tml i will make a police report. Very angry with such business person. Totally unacceptable.
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post Apr 14 2019, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Apr 14 2019, 09:54 PM)
Bank in can also be considered a "donation" le or he can claim that you owe him money? blush.gif

Take the RM500 and move on la...
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Nope. Got whatsapp as proof. He asked me to banked in in 1 hour and i do so.
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 14 2019, 10:01 PM)
Let me get this straight

- TS pay RM500 to broker as booking fee for a used car.

- deal fell through, broker offer to refund the full RM500.

- TS want to make police report.

What crime has been committed here?
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I will consult lawyer, tribunal, police and then viral his business in FB. This dealer boss very ridiculous and bad.
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(GreenSamurai @ Apr 14 2019, 10:05 PM)
Remember to share here when you viral.
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Wait tml i go collect the car first. If no car then only viral. I suspect he sold the car to another buyer.
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Apr 14 2019, 10:12 PM)
I agree with most people. Don't complicate/ trouble your life. Just take back the money and move on. Whatever shit the dealer did is not worth the hassle. Since you are getting your money back anyway. Only bring storm to them if they did not return your money.

Another thing your RM500 deal is really small potato. You never kena RM86000 in product orders with confirmed PO and the buyer backed out. And you have collateral on that stock. Now compare your RM500 to my RM86000 problem. Which should you bring shit storm and fury to the guy that did it? Whats more, you will get your money back. Me? I have to slog for 6 months to sell those goods and at the back thinking shit.... i may have to work 3 jobs to pay back suppliers for the products.  bangwall.gif

Look make yourself happy and forget those idiots. Its not worth the time and stupid internet justice. If you hate them so much, just take the RM500 and use it to employ rempits to super glue their padlocks & throw red paint at their premise. Can you do that? If you can't, then just take the money and forget whatever happened as a bad day that will pass.
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But my lost is the car that i supposed to get. I could not get back that specs and that quality with that price offered by the dealer.

So its ok to let the business owners to bully the consumers?

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post Apr 14 2019, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jag23sys @ Apr 14 2019, 10:24 PM)
Just take back your money. You are lucky he is willing to give you back.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 14 2019, 10:26 PM)
First time i heard this kind of problem.

He agreed to refund you good enough ady. You want to report him for what?

You're lucky to even get a refund.
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Wow, this world dont have contract law? After deal, can dont fulfill the obligation?
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Apr 14 2019, 10:22 PM)
Cold hard truth...he found buyer to sell higher
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Yea. I think so. Because he told me puspakom also settled already. Tml go thumb print then can already. But now last minute lying me.
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Apr 14 2019, 10:31 PM)
*double post*
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Maybe he means the dealer can force you to take another specs another car and close the deal again.
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Apr 14 2019, 10:34 PM)
Did you sign anything? Any black and white saying after the boss receive booking fee, he is legally obliged to deliver the goods upon full payment?
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He promised me can take the car tomorrow. And requested me to bank in. Let the judge in the tribunal court to decide.
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post Apr 14 2019, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(rooney723 @ Apr 14 2019, 10:43 PM)
this, at least he returned ur depo, if he didnt return ur depo then yes u cn viral this n gain socmed sympathy

but nw even if u managed to viral it, most ppl will just tell u u ledi get bck the depo why wan do so much nonsense
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He is so unethical and lied to me. Is that nonsense? Omg. I know i never sign official contract with him but his ethics is worse.

Imagine you bought online ticket to paris tml. But the airline told you last mins that your ticket is rejected due to system error. In fact they sold your business class ticket to another business tycoon. And you have important meeting at paris.

So you will very happy with the airline even if they refunded you?
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post Apr 14 2019, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Apr 14 2019, 10:53 PM)
no black and white. i dun think u got case lol.

but do proceed. and please update us with ur result.
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Err. Luckily got witness, whatsapp and payment as concrete evidence. My claim is below 25k can go under tribunal court. RM5 filing only. Never try before. Especially if i can prove that the dealer boss has lied me.

When the car owner testified in the court that he never say he dont want to sell the car, see how the dealer is going to defend. I already recorded all the conversation.
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post Apr 14 2019, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Apr 14 2019, 10:52 PM)
Bad example, because this happens more time than you can imagine when it comes to airline and hotel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overselling
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If got overbooked, they have to offered me another room to stay with the same facilities and area. But in this case the dealer do not replace the same quality of car for me.

QUOTE(hariz.zaki2 @ Apr 14 2019, 10:58 PM)
You have the opportunity of breaking even with a car dealer, just take it. You can always find another car to purchase.
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The extra cost incurred due to this circumstance who gonna bear?
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post Apr 14 2019, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Intimidated @ Apr 14 2019, 11:05 PM)
What is the outcome you are seeking then? The rights to buy the car? Additional RM500 compensation?

The most pivotal point here is, the boss never took full payment, only booking fee. And he wants to refund the booking fee.

Also, do you know who is the seller? Will the seller take your side? What if it turns out that seller really changed mind?
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Maybe the rights to buy the car or offer another car with the same specs and condition.

Hello, he cheated and lied me now. I dont have the rights to claim the extra cost incurred due to his lies? I have to spend extra cost to buy back the same specs and same condition of the car.

We will know once the seller testify in the court.
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(duHwaN @ Apr 15 2019, 02:58 PM)
1. You put in RM500 booking offer through the dealer (broker) to secure the deal
2. Owner did not accept the offer
3. Dealer refund you the offer

Different case if the dealer is actually the owner. Don't think there is much to pursue here.
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I got conned total 2.5k. Very frustrated now.

His account is Public bank
6423393919
Name is wong Jackson


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post Apr 15 2019, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 15 2019, 05:38 PM)
You are supposed to bank in the money to the dealer's company bank account in the first place. Not his personal account.
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I regret with my stupidity. I rushing to buy the car and fallen to his trap. I stupid to bank in another 2k for him at night. I cant forgive for my stupidity.
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post Apr 15 2019, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Apr 15 2019, 05:42 PM)
Let me guess. You didn't even go over to the dealership and inspect the car. These "too good to be true" deals are all scams and it has been around for a long time. Take this as a painful lesson. There is nothing much you can do except to lodge a police report now.
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I am 6th victim. And there might be more. Yes its really too good to be true. I know i am stupid. I dont think the police will help anything. Hope the bank will freeze his account. The scammer still online with his whatsapp now!

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