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 buying 2nd hand car <=40k, need recommendation, (waja 1.6, year 2003 it is)

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TSdonpapachino
post Jun 21 2007, 09:02 PM, updated 19y ago

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as per my previous topic, refer here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/471077

now i have narrowed down my search to the below. my preference is 4 doors, sedan(preferably), automatic transmission and vehicle age must be after 2000(easier to get loan). usage is back & forth work (~50km travel distance/day) & the occasional outstation outing(balik kampung, genting):
honda city type z (1.5) year 2000/01
peugeot 206 (1.6) year 2000/01
peugeot 406 (2.0) year 2000/01
proton gen2 (1.6) year 2004/05
proton perdana (2.0) year 2001/02
proton waja (1.6/1.8) year 2003/04/05

need all you sifus advise. not sure bout the FC or maintenance cost for the above cars as well. heck, im not even close to deciding yet. icon_question.gif

or if u guys have other recommendation, can share as well. icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by donpapachino: Jun 25 2007, 10:17 PM
TSdonpapachino
post Jun 21 2007, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(CoupeFan @ Jun 21 2007, 09:05 PM)
i'm sure many people will sell their gen2 for this new gen2...
dont get "conned" ... the current gen 2 engine is crappy engine
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i dont understand at all. sweat.gif
QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 21 2007, 09:48 PM)
oi gila ka? doh.gif

btw don, waja or 406 maybe the good choice.
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406 is quite rare, seldom see, so can stand out in a crowd. biggrin.gif
QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jun 21 2007, 10:01 PM)
If you shortlisted it then:
honda city type z (1.5) year 2000/01

maintaining it is cheaper than peugeot.
Perdana has build quality issues that are a defect from the start especially the joining sections of the front bumper below the front lights. That connection over time will twist and 2 years with that car you can see it twist, the longer the more the twist. If its not a twist there will be some gaping hole there. ALso its not the best car to drive.
Waja is ok, but then its up to you in the end
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true, maintaining japanese car is cheaper than french car since over here lotsa spare parts n half cut.
n thanx for pointing out the perdana quality issues.
waja 1.8 premium seems like a very good choice. thumbup.gif
QUOTE(cky6667 @ Jun 21 2007, 10:03 PM)
bro..go for v6...as i knw,2002 v6 juz rm40k....
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even my ofis mate said that his v6 is more economical than his hyundai getz when it comes to FC especially city driving. shocking.gif
QUOTE(Chester @ Jun 21 2007, 11:20 PM)
Im looking at this range as well. I think Waja is the best bet and you could probably get 2005 model with 40k
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waja 1.8 premium 2003/04 below 40k. brows.gif
QUOTE(KeV @ Jun 21 2007, 11:33 PM)
honda city type z or proton waja, taste is up to u
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honda resale value still high compared to waja, n higher quality but long term dont know good or not, since more than 6 years the age. must look for low mileage then. unsure.gif

thanks guys n keep it coming. but somehow my fren also racun me to get the saga promotion rm26,999. but manual wor. dont know still can drive manual car or not. sweat.gif
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post Jun 22 2007, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(gtghost @ Jun 22 2007, 12:30 AM)
Waja 1.8 is a different engine from 1.6 variant. Spare parts may cost more than 1.6 (not sure by how many % more, prolly 30-50%?). Proton 1.8 owners can clarify?

Some defects might be commonly known, surf for forums if really intrested in waja and the diff between 1.6 & 1.8. The price of 1.8 is same or cheaper than 1.6 of the same year.

Either go Jap or Waja 1.6. Jap less % see mechanic, Waja need more care for minor problems (Powa window, door handles, etc.). These days buy car cannot see resale value, volatile and going down fast. Today it sells for 40k next year it may sell at 25k.

Low milage also cannot gauge unless confirm service booklet match, if not usually tampered with, also no point.

Summary - Buy cheap, maintain cheap, loan 3 years. Saves lots of hassle and heartache.
Maintain gf asso not that susah LOL
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1.6 road tax also <rm100. thumbup.gif
u sure bout the maintaining gf part ar? tongue.gif
QUOTE(Chester @ Jun 22 2007, 01:07 AM)
Waja so far only have minor problems that I think is not that important like PW or door handle. Anyway they already got those steel kinda PW to replace the old version 1 with pvc/plastic(dono wad lah) which the mechanic told me that wont bring any problem anymore after u change to that new pw.
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sumtimes u have to be luck also. thanks for the headsup. rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(F1meteor @ Jun 22 2007, 08:59 AM)
i vote for waja 1.6(A)
i heard some ppl said that maintenance for a waja is not cheap, but i feel that it's going to be cheaper than a peugeot or honda car anyway.
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true, malaysian car maintenance sure cheaper. biggrin.gif
QUOTE(gtghost @ Jun 22 2007, 12:12 PM)
Actually Waja is quite cheap to maintain if you know where to service. Dad just changed 4 mountings cos around RM430+ with workmanship. But seriously, so fast it was gone, 2 years+ and 3 out of 4 are gone case, feels like you're driving a moving OSIM biggrin.gif

List of problems 1.6(A) so far fixed:
- 2 PW problem (motor replaced, PW switchboard replaced), passanger side very loud when opening.
- 2 suspension at the back (1 set)
- Mountings (1 set - 4 biji)
- 2 Lower arm at the back
- Side mirror paint chipped off (known issue) - did not repaint
- Door handles 3 out of 4 broken (replaced)

Age of car: 3 years old+

Other than that, good handling but noisy interior due to engine sound all transfer into cabin. Was worse off when the mounting died. Overall rating, a cheap good car from point A to B and need a little more attention due to minor problems. Need to see mechanic once a month to fix these little rascals. Now probably less like maybe 2 months once.
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cheap meh? saga or wira cheaper. tongue.gif
thanx for all the info from ur fathers car. flex.gif
QUOTE(hk_loo @ Jun 22 2007, 12:17 PM)
i will choose a waja 2005 ....
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lol, any particular reason? blink.gif
QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Jun 22 2007, 12:33 PM)
my vote goes to .....

peugeot 406 (2.0) year 2000/01
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n y is that? unsure.gif
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post Jun 25 2007, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(darkages @ Jun 22 2007, 08:29 PM)
Where to change the mounting? I need to replace mine.
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lol, no idea where to change the mounting. wat happen to urs anyway? unsure.gif
QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jun 22 2007, 08:50 PM)
waja 1.8 renault engine...that one I am not sure how much to maintain. Beware of 1.8.1.6 ok
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yup, 1.8 renault engine fc is much more that 1.6 mitsubishi engine.
QUOTE(car_o_scope @ Jun 22 2007, 09:43 PM)
If FC is an issue, I think the Perdana will not be your choice..
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definitely gonna kill me already.

ok, for updates, i just went to a 2nd hand dealer n 'book' a waja 1.6(a) year 2003, not premium edition. car value quoted 34k, gonna arrange for 33k loan. but they asking me to pay 4k first, for insurance, road tax, ownership, puspakom purposes. is that amount fair? unsure.gif

n they can accept my old car for trade-in, thank god. laugh.gif
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post Jun 25 2007, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jun 25 2007, 10:18 PM)
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where is Toyota SEG 1.6 2000 FL version?
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how much leh? unsure.gif
QUOTE(aliftaufiq @ Jun 25 2007, 10:30 PM)
Vote for waja 1.6...
Easy maintainance..For 4 years i only had driver's power window problem(replaced with the new metal design)Heard that 1.8 renault engine got lotsa problem..Need someone to clarify on that..
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yup, this dealer even pointed out the problems to me, n he will replace it by the time i agree to buy, thats y i confident in him.

but is it 4k for insurance, puspakom checking, roadtax, transfer of ownership etc reasonable? unsure.gif
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post Jun 25 2007, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jun 25 2007, 10:38 PM)
Around ur budget, for good FC & easy maintenance, + RELIABLE.
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yeke? never heard of this model before. sweat.gif
QUOTE(aliftaufiq @ Jun 25 2007, 10:38 PM)
How much that dealer offer u???
Waja 1.6(a)..want to estimate my ride current price..hehe
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he offered 34k, mileage was 80k, reasonable for 4 years car i guess. loan 33k for 7 years, ~500/month.

so that means, i pay 1k as downpayment, n 3k for insurance (1st party, 0% NCD) + puspakom check + ownership transfer paperwork etc? ok or not? sweat.gif unsure.gif

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