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SportyHandling
post Apr 5 2022, 09:32 PM

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Would like to check. Usually what is the lifespan of a dashcam? I installed one on my car about 3 or 4 years ago but rarely use it. As the cable running from the dashcam to the cigarette lighter on the centre console of the car is visible and quite unsightly, I am having thoughts of getting a shop specialist to rerun the cable and hide it somewhere.

If the lifespan of the dashcam is not too long, I may consider changing to a new dashcam but it's a waste to change if it still can work, and for the fact that I don't find the camera to be particularly useful, yet.
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post Apr 6 2022, 08:47 AM

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Thanks for the responses. The dashcam is Xiaomi 70Mai. Will check if the video is clear or the unit is still working prior to doing anything. The last time I checked which is sometime last year, no issues with the video.

Currently the cable is running at the side but it is visible since it runs on top of the dashboard. I can't DIY the cable myself since to hide the cable, it needs to run inside the A-pillar of the car. I can't pry the A-pillar open just to hide the cable. Not sure if it is advisable to dismantle the A-pillar to insert the cable inside it since it may loosen up the parts which may bring up rattling sound. Will see how it goes.
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post Apr 6 2022, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Apr 6 2022, 09:12 AM)
Actually, you don't need to open the A-pillar to install the cable.



Here is one of the many videos on youtube. It's also how I first I installed my dashcam long long time ago.
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Thanks for the video. I realised I made a mistake by not running the cable across the A-pillar but along the edge between the front windscreen and A-pillar instead. That's the only difference between the installation in my vehicle and the one shown in the video. As the cable in my car did not run across the A-pillar, it runs on top of the dashboard (clearly visible) once the cable at the top reached the bottom to the dashboard area.

I'll attempt to rerun the cable when I have the time, this time running across the dashboard. As the A-pillar of my car is in light beige colour, the black coloured cable will be visible if it runs across the A-pillar. That is the sole reason I didn't run it across the A-pillar when I installed it 3 to 4 years ago. Although the dashboard of my car is dark brown/grey colour, the black cable is still visible when it sits on top of it.
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post Apr 16 2022, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Apr 6 2022, 09:12 AM)
Actually, you don't need to open the A-pillar to install the cable.



Here is one of the many videos on youtube. It's also how I first I installed my dashcam long long time ago.
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Just managed to rerun the cable by following this video and another one which shows the prying of the line across the A-pillar to hide the cable. I'm happy to report that the end result is a success. The cable follows the rubber lining along the door as it goes below the car mat which I find a better and neater way than running it below the dashboard and steering wheel.

Just one question which I'm always curious. Is there a dashcam where the videos stored on the SD card of the camera can be viewed or accessed on the smartphone via the app of the dashcam, when both the camera and car are switched off? In other words, the WiFi connection of the dash cam is switched off and cannot be connected to the phone.
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post Apr 26 2022, 04:15 PM

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Is there a video camera which can record a clearer image of vehicle number plates than the Xiaomi 70mai model from 4 years ago? This image was cropped from the video taken by the 70mai.

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The video was recorded at a rather close distance of about 2 to 3 metres. If the distance is 5m or more, I think the numbers will look even worse than this.

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post Jul 10 2023, 02:00 PM

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Some basic questions.

1. Can any normal front dashcam be used as a rear dashcam?
2. Is it advisable to go with standard dashcam option by car manufacturer (for rear dashcam) to minimise hassle since it will be installed in the factory, or go with aftermarket one which uses different app to control since the front dashcam is already included with the vehicle using the car manufacturer's app?

For me, as long as the dash camera can take clear pictures of the number plate, that's good enough for me. Don't need any fancy features but was just curious about the pros and cons of having an integrated app to control both front and rear dashcams, or 2 different apps to control the front and rear dashcams separately since they come from different brands/manufacturers.
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post Jul 10 2023, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Jul 10 2023, 04:42 PM)
1. Yes. the cam does not know where it is mounted, you may even use it to record inside the vehicle (altho, focal length & FOV may not be ideal).
2. Thus far, to my knowledge (I dont research, as I dont buy cars new) the solution provided by car manufacturers are inferior to established dashcam companies.

How clear the video is is also influenced by the environment in which it is operating in, including but not limited to clarity of windscreen, glare from other light sources, amount of useable light, etc. Just like your phone camera, on a sunny day outdoors it takes great pictures, but not so in dark & backlit or multiple light sources from behind your subject.

App wise, you dont need to monitor them constantly. I have 2 apps on my phone for both my cars which using different makes.
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Thanks for the response. I don't have much knowledge in this area. I am guessing that it may be more convenient for the car manufacturer to install the rear dash camera before the vehicle is delivered to customer. With aftermarket dash cameras installed later, I'm just a bit concerned that the job may not be well done by 3rd party installers outside such as visible or messy wiring running in the vehicle, or some carpet or parts are opened up to hide the wiring thus causing those parts to become loose which in turn produces rattling sound inside the cabin after that etc.
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post Jul 10 2023, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(blurjoey @ Jul 10 2023, 08:42 PM)
1. Yes you can. You need to consider the extra micro SD card, where to get power for the dashcam.
2. Yes car manufacturer will void your car warranty. But best to know the service center 1st and ask. Certain SC will close 1 eye and some won't. The dashcam from them is just an OEM from China at a high price.
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Thanks. Will ask. Good point about warranty and I suspect it will be the case. Will likely go with the rear dash cam option provided by the car manufacturer. It costs RM380 to install.
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post Oct 13 2023, 07:19 AM

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Has anyone encountered an experience whereby the dashcam failed to record the video during a collision? My colleague's Mai70 failed to record just that particular video clip in that instant when the collision happened. Not too sure what happened but that 1 minute clip was missing but the rest of the video clips before and after were intact. Only that one video clip was completely missing.

Has anyone experienced this before whereby in the most crucial moment when the collision happened and the video of the accident is required, that video went missing.
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post Oct 13 2023, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Oct 13 2023, 08:05 AM)
Does not sound like an intended feature, is either:

user accidentally deleted the file
user did not manage to properly locate the file
collision detection turned off or wrong setting
issues with dashcam and/or memory card

I've never had that happen to any 3 of my dashcam since 2014, however I also have no been in such a collision as what you described, and also consumer products may have defects or issues.

At most the user can do now is to try replicate the incident (ofcourse not actual accident, rather impact the cam see if it triggers).

Personlly at times I trigger or press the record button as sanity check to ensure its functioning properly, same like how one would perform regular checks on a safety system.
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The last 2 reasons may be a possibility, the first 2 reasons unlikely as all other files are available. Only that 1 file when the collision happened is not available. We suspected the most likely possibility is the impact of the collision caused the recording during that instant to be affected and hence that clip was somehow lost or not recorded.

If your vehicle has not been in any collision then the video cam should be recording as it is. The collision to my colleague's car left the front bumper dented with some serious damage to the left side of the vehicle.
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post Nov 7 2023, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Matchy @ Nov 6 2023, 12:06 AM)
Recently i got into an accident as well, and I’m surprised that recording was “missing”. In the end, manage to find it in the “event” folder instead of the normal recording folder. Perhaps your friend can check that as well.
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Yes, similarly he told me he found the video in the "special folder". I didn't update the thread as i thought no one would be interested to know. Apart from the video of the collision where the strong impact had triggered the video to be sent and stored in that special folder, he also found videos of his car being driven into the workshop for repair. He found it weird as there wouldn't be any collision and yet the videos of the vehicle driven around the workshop were recorded and stored in that special folder.

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post Jan 24 2024, 08:00 AM

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Would like to ask, is anyone using the 70Mai M300? Can this dashcam be used at both front and rear of the vehicle? I presume the performance of this one is decent?

Also, what is the difference between hardwire and plugging the unit(s) into the cigarette lighter charger? Is the hardwire any good? I've plugged the dashcam to the cigarrette lighter all this while. I'm currently using the 70Mai basic dashcam but it failed to work recently after 4 or 5 years so it's time for a new one. The 70Mai M300 costs RM175 at the moment.

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post Jan 24 2024, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Jan 24 2024, 09:42 AM)
https://dashcam.70mai.com/m300/
Isnt the m300 a single cam device?, how could it record both front & rear?
A what is called "2 channel" or "dual channel" or "front & rear" model is required if want to record 2 different views.

Typically, a hardwire would usually mean it has constant recording regardless if the vehicle is turned on, however it all depends on where the source of power is taken. Usually cig lighter is only active when vehicle is turned on (or ACC). But one can still hardwire without 24/7 recording if tap into an ACC source instead of constant/BATT.
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Thanks for the response. I am aware the M300 is a single camera. My understanding is to have 2 cameras, one at the front windscreen while another one at the rear windscreen to take videos at the front and rear, or my understanding is flawed?

Ok understood on the concept of hardwiring, thanks. So hardwire will enable 24/7 recording even though the vehicle is turned off, parked anywhere. So by plugging the device into the cigarette lighter, the dash cam will not take any videos if the vehicle is turned off. I presume hardwire will involve connecting the wiring from the dash cam to the battery of the vehicle. Since the M300 has 24H Smart Parking Surveillance feature which the basic 70Mai model doesn't have, I guess it needs to be hardwired instead of getting plugged into the cigarette lighter to enable the 24H recording feature.

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post Jan 24 2024, 04:55 PM

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Thanks for the information. Appreciated. If that is the case, the M300 is out. Need to go find a proper 2-channel model which records both front and rear with a single tapping power.
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post Jan 26 2024, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 01:07 PM)
I just installed DDPai Z50 GPS with OBD easy plug in hardwire on my old car.

It comes with a set of front and rear camera. The OBD plug in makes it easy to plug in, no need connect to fuse. DDPai OBD plug has a switch there...24 hours and ACC. From my understanding, the ACC setting will cut off power when car engine is off, 24 hours....is just that 24 hours powering. So if don't want app turn off or unsure, can just flip the switch on the OBD (if you can access the OBD port). Better than the cigarette lighter plug in. Some say OBD goes 24hours full power but DDPai OBD can sett directly on the switch. It has low voltage cut off.

The DDpai app can set battery voltage detection. I set DDPai to cut of power if battery goes lower than 12.4, the cut off power to avoid battery cannot start. The parking monitoring can set to either time lapse mode (can set 12, 24 or 48 hours before shutdown), full recording or in my case I set to sleep mode to save battery (not need record unless collision or hard vibration emergency wake). I'm not sure why other says the microphone is bad, for me, its is working ok, clear enuf.

For me, the app is working ok, nothing fancy but bad as other say. Does higher end phone makes a difference?

Also when initially connect app to ddpai, it does cut off phone data. I'm not sure how, but when after I access the live video, if I don't exit, just switch to other app with DDPAi app still running in background, I recovered usage of my data and can choose the running DDPAI app and view live video.
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Good to know. I don't have high requirement for a dashcam so a basic one will do. After talking to the sales person I've changed my mind and will go with a single dash cam plugged directly to the cigarette lighter. If hardwired to some parts of the car such as battery, will void the warranty for battery with new cars. Initially thought of fixing both front and rear dash cam but reverted to just front to avoid the hassle and also the fact that the rear windscreen would have very dark tint so the rear dashcam will not be able to capture a clear video if the tint is very dark.
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post Jan 26 2024, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 01:40 PM)
My rear windscreen with VLT 21%... Can see clearly in video. Actually I see no hassle in front and rear, the installer will do it without any damage to car roof. It least mine looks ok.

Actually in hardwire to fuse, it will likely void the ENTIRE car electrical system all the way to your electronic device, etc LCD screen, etc. Nowadays, they especially love to VOID all warranties at the slightest mod that we made, so no mod, no worries. So I rather pay extra for more celup but expensive device from car manufacturer if I must have the item for the new car.

The rear video is useful in rear ended hit and run case to identify car number and cause of accident. It is only about a hundred extra. The power port goes directly to front camera. The front camera powered by a single USB port.
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I see, thanks. Good to know that the dashcam is still able to record clear videos with VLT 21% tints. I won't be hardwiring to vehicle as it will void warranty for new cars.
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post Jan 26 2024, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 26 2024, 03:42 PM)
I tot you install on existing car. For new car, I would consider install from car manufacturer if I must have one, else cigarette plug lor. Nowadays cut cost, especially H, a little bit mod also can void warranty. Don't do any electrical mods unless you want to void practically all electrical wiring, fuse, even connected device if they have issue that relate to electrical power...
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Car manufacturer costs significantly higher, front and rear costs RM1.2k. I don't really need a high-end one. I've bought the basic Xiaomi 70Mai M300 at less than RM200.
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post Mar 16 2024, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(JC999 @ Mar 14 2024, 02:56 PM)
I heard it won't void car warranty, may I know which car brand
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Nissan. I didn't pursue further and anyway I've decided to go with basic by plugging into cigarette lighter which I've done for my all cars for the past 10+ years.

 

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