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RAGALIA
post Nov 9 2022, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(roy_zu @ Nov 8 2022, 11:19 PM)
Yes, they closed the loop hole now. My monthly payment went from 3k to 5.6k for 1.2mil loan. Already parked half of the loan amount in the account. That means, with the new rate, the loan need to be finished within next 13 years
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I wonder how they realised it. This is such a major loophole. I mean I borrow from my family members right before revision of BR and put 95% in the flexi loan account and take out the day after. My monthly installment is only RM50 per month biggrin.gif This used to be worth it with low interest rate. Then i was thinking if I only pay RM50 per month until the end of my loan after 30 years what will happen lol I was prepared to argue that it was their system bug. Seems like someone noticed it already bangwall.gif

Haha oh well good times enjoyed a few years of this loophole.
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post Nov 9 2022, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(RAGALIA @ Nov 9 2022, 08:31 AM)
I wonder how they realised it. This is such a major loophole. I mean I borrow from my family members right before revision of BR and put 95% in the flexi loan account and take out the day after. My monthly installment is only RM50 per month  biggrin.gif  This used to be worth it with low interest rate. Then i was thinking if I only pay RM50 per month until the end of my loan after 30 years what will happen lol I was prepared to argue that it was their system bug. Seems like someone noticed it already  bangwall.gif

Haha oh well good times enjoyed a few years of this loophole.
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Same here. I parked big chunk just before the latest increase hoping the monthly will reduce to sub 3k. I don't mind paying the new amount but the loan will end before my 20 years MLTA. If I'm finishing my loan before the 20 years period, I might lose the insurance benefit incase of demise
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post Nov 9 2022, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(roy_zu @ Nov 9 2022, 11:26 AM)
Same here. I parked big chunk just before the latest increase hoping the monthly will reduce to sub 3k. I don't mind paying the new amount but the loan will end before my 20 years MLTA. If I'm finishing my loan before the 20 years period, I might lose the insurance benefit incase of demise
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Yeah, since you paid for the premium you should be able to enjoy the full tenure benefits. Can't you just take out the extra amount so that the regular installment extends few more years? That's what I plan to do anyway, withdraw the excess amount monthly from the flexi loan and make regular payment so that it will never trigger early settlement on my part.

Should be workable right?
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post Nov 9 2022, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(RAGALIA @ Nov 9 2022, 12:15 PM)
Yeah, since you paid for the premium you should be able to enjoy the full tenure benefits. Can't you just take out the extra amount so that the regular installment extends few more years? That's what I plan to do anyway, withdraw the excess amount monthly from the flexi loan and make regular payment so that it will never trigger early settlement on my part.

Should be workable right?
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This should work technically but might lose out on enjoying almost interest free loan. Will give a call to bank to check on details
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post Nov 9 2022, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(RAGALIA @ Jun 5 2022, 01:40 PM)
I called their CS and explain this even the branch manager they said it's the system he also quite shocked by it actually. But say that's how they do it. They only revised the system during BLR revision. So essentially, anyone that got extra cash lying around, inject into the extra account. My repayment monthly now is RM70 after this latest increase because i put even more cash into the account before they revised it. Essentially I got more money to roll when I needed it because my monthly repayment is so low. I did tell the CS service to update the loophole but they say it's not worth it. The system been there for years. So I shall take advantage of it  biggrin.gif
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it was you who asked the CS update the loophole? doh.gif

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post Nov 10 2022, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(Incarnation @ Nov 9 2022, 10:33 PM)
it was you who asked the CS update the loophole?  doh.gif
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Haha I did call long time ago based on their reaction that time they did not want to entertaint me. I just want to confirm with them what happens if my repayment amount is RM50 till I finish my RHB loan seems like no one was able to answer me. Since then it was raised two times but did not affect it also not sure why this time they revised it.
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post Nov 10 2022, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(roy_zu @ Nov 9 2022, 11:26 AM)
Same here. I parked big chunk just before the latest increase hoping the monthly will reduce to sub 3k. I don't mind paying the new amount but the loan will end before my 20 years MLTA. If I'm finishing my loan before the 20 years period, I might lose the insurance benefit incase of demise
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MLTA should able to move to other properties if the current loan is fully paid....i think yours that end in 20 years time is MRTA or equivalent?

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post Nov 10 2022, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Nov 10 2022, 09:47 AM)
MLTA should able to move to other properties if the current loan is fully paid....i think yours that end in 20 years time is MRTA or equivalent?
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Mine is MLTA
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post Nov 10 2022, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(roy_zu @ Nov 10 2022, 01:52 PM)
Mine is MLTA
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then should be no worry if the loan is early settled, since it can be transfer to your next property.


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post Nov 10 2022, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Nov 10 2022, 02:13 PM)
then should be no worry if the loan is early settled, since it can be transfer to your next property.
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Hign likely there will be NO another property loan till retrirement. Haha
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post Nov 10 2022, 11:35 PM

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I have same problem like some of u

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post Nov 11 2022, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Nov 10 2022, 11:35 PM)
I have same problem like some of u guys, my loan balance is 460k, monthly payment used to be 1.8k, but suddenly after recent BR increase, the loan payment become 2.3k, i called RHB but they say someone will call to explain. Anyone know whats happening?
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What happens is the bank cost of fund increases. They now have to pay higher interest to savings and fds and the extra cost is pass to borrowers to maintain their profit margin.
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post Nov 11 2022, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 11 2022, 06:46 AM)
What happens is the bank cost of fund increases. They now have to pay higher interest to savings and fds and the extra cost is pass to borrowers to maintain their profit margin.
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But normally when each time opr raised, my loan increased by rm50-70, this time its 500 which j think something wrong
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post Nov 11 2022, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Nov 11 2022, 07:04 AM)
But normally when each time opr raised, my loan increased by rm50-70, this time its 500 which j think something wrong
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I have a loan figure close to yours. My lowest monthly repayment during mco is 2k. Latest is 2.2k

Again depending on banks ... if you signed up for moratorium twice, then some banks will add the suspended payment to current.repayment

If borrower 'enjoyed' the moratorium, now is the time to repay.

For eg ... 2,000 x 6 x 2 times moratorium = 24 000 !


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post Nov 11 2022, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 11 2022, 08:22 AM)
I have a loan figure close to yours. My lowest monthly repayment during mco is 2k. Latest is 2.2k

Again depending on banks ... if you signed up for moratorium twice, then some banks will add the suspended payment to current.repayment

If borrower 'enjoyed' the moratorium, now is the time to repay.

For eg ... 2,000 x 6 x 2 times moratorium = 24 000 !
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Hutang Duit...Sila bayar Hutang! Makick Zuraidah bising lagi pasal moratorium. Like no need to pay back..now, ambik ko! (Not meant you specifically, but in general).

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post Nov 11 2022, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Nov 11 2022, 08:22 AM)
I have a loan figure close to yours. My lowest monthly repayment during mco is 2k. Latest is 2.2k

Again depending on banks ... if you signed up for moratorium twice, then some banks will add the suspended payment to current.repayment

If borrower 'enjoyed' the moratorium, now is the time to repay.

For eg ... 2,000 x 6 x 2 times moratorium = 24 000 !
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Never took any moratarium, in fact i paid extra for pricipal
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post Nov 11 2022, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(roy_zu @ Nov 10 2022, 06:16 PM)
Hign likely there will be NO another property loan till retrirement. Haha
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Never say never...If you're able to clear the loan early by dumping excess cash into it, this proves that you should have enough capital to purchase another rental income properties....Just need to know how to choose the property & manage your leverage well.
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post Nov 11 2022, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Nov 10 2022, 11:35 PM)
I have same problem like some of u guys, my loan balance is 460k, monthly payment used to be 1.8k, but suddenly after recent BR increase, the loan payment become 2.3k, i called RHB but they say someone will call to explain. Anyone know whats happening?
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Likely that the system use the original loan amount as repayment calculation instead of the current balance... i have around the same loan balance as yours, 480k, repayment 1.9k, after recent hike it becomes 2.6k, which is approaching the original monthly repayment of 2.8k when i signed the letter offer...next hike of 25 basis point will back to pre-covid level, so most probably our loan will back to around the same repayment as pre-covid repayment amount.
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post Nov 11 2022, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(iamtheone2020 @ Nov 11 2022, 09:07 AM)
Never took any moratarium, in fact i paid extra for pricipal
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Ok. So you have no problem paying extra and all payments goes into the account. Shouldnt have any problem ?

Borrower can request for a statement to show the money movement.

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post Nov 11 2022, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Nov 11 2022, 09:10 AM)
Never say never...If you're able to clear the loan early by dumping excess cash into it, this proves that you should have enough capital to purchase another rental income properties....Just need to know how to choose the property & manage your leverage well.
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Already have another 3 properties currently rented (1 of it my previous own stay) before got new landed 3 years ago. Out of 3, 2 were bad investment due to rental yield lower than loan due to location or other nearby properties. So, no more property investment. Going to target other low risk investments where capital is pretty much assured and easy to liquidate

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