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post Apr 4 2019, 09:32 AM

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Cengal woods are gooding yo.My mother in law house nearly 80 years old now still standing strong as ever but offcourse nowadays not cost effective la...Too expensive.
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post Apr 4 2019, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 4 2019, 11:56 AM)
Pak Lah. At Kampong Penchala. Malay house outside but traditional English design inside. I did the timber flooring inside. All using American Walnut. Other contractors did the plaster ceiling,  wall paneling and kitchen.
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That one cost 12 million right?
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post Apr 4 2019, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Apr 4 2019, 12:20 PM)
if you have money, why not?

good timber is expensive, very expensive

one of the more impressive timber structure in Malaysia is at karambunai nexus resot in sabah.
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At Borneo they got one wood, kayu Belian right? They said Belian more durable than Cengal?True?
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post Apr 4 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 4 2019, 12:22 PM)
Ya. Fully sponsored by a developer for winning GE12.
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post Apr 4 2019, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Apr 4 2019, 12:37 PM)
Really so durable that old house wood still can be used?

I only heard of ppl using old boats’ wood for building though.
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I heard depends on the age of the wood. If from 100 year old tree they said can last 200- 300 years.. ohmy.gif

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post Apr 4 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 4 2019, 03:53 PM)
belian wood. v hard to get. is super tough wood. if u wan cantik cantik kind of wood. cant use it. structure can la. v hard to carve. and termite proof. so far have not seen any termintes at the my wood tho.
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Yeah you right...My roommates from Uni days is from Sarawak,he's from long house community.From him I know about the wood,he called it king of the wood...
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post Apr 4 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 4 2019, 04:34 PM)
King of the wood is chengal lor, if I am not wrong
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In Semenanjung yes.In Borneo is Belian,they said Belian are stronger and more durable than Cengal ..
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post Apr 4 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ju146 @ Apr 4 2019, 04:37 PM)
Owh.. But chengal is very hard and durable d.. It is very expensive to even build them as dining table..
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Yes,my mother in law house made almost entirely from cengal, 78 years old now and still strong as ever but Belian is more durable especially those fully matured woods (100 year old tree) they said can last 200-300 years ohmy.gif
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post Apr 4 2019, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 05:26 PM)
what reason its called king of wood?

just because it can tahan? thats not enough criteria to be called king.
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My friend also said it has some kind of mystic power idunnolol..Better ask Sarawakian who stay at long house.They will know better I think.Oh,this wood also don't float on the water I think.Anyway it's a special kind of wood, I can assure you that..
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post Apr 4 2019, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 05:48 PM)
why belian so hard to get?  its a pretty featureless wood.. maybe people dont bother using it..thats all.  biggrin.gif
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One of the reason is the tree itself is grow very slowly,fully matured only after 100 years old.The rest you can google lol...
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post Apr 4 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 05:52 PM)
u dont know about wood but you can assure its special wood.  rclxub.gif

do you even do carpentry?
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I give you simple example la...Ferrari,many said what's special about it but many people spends 20,30 million for its old car...

Same with this wood..can last hundreds of year,very expensive,rare,must be master skill on wood marking in order to carve it since it's a super hard wood like steel...
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post Apr 4 2019, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 06:00 PM)
wel except its not ferrari price in wood world . its not even more than burmese teak price. lol. dont simply shiok sendiri declare belian as king of woods.  rclxub.gif u wan how many tans of belian timber. can order for you.
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Chill...I just requote what Sarawakian told me...

One man junk is one man treasure...I genuinely think collecting sneaker is a stupid thing yet many collect them ..So up to them la this is a democracy country lol ...

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post Apr 4 2019, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 06:06 PM)
yea so you just listen to some one told u but you dont know market price is not expensive so you believe him.
so now u know its not ferarri of wood world. you can update the information.
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But I do think Belian is a top tier of wood just like Ferrari in automotive.And Im not expert in both wood nor automobile.
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post Apr 4 2019, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 06:11 PM)
i also hope so la i got some in the wood storage rack. if can be ferarri, i can charge my customer 10k for the next shelf i make out of it. biggrin.gif
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Orait...If you got some sinking agarwood dont forget to tell me ya .Maybe I'll bought it from you laugh.gif

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post Apr 4 2019, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 4 2019, 06:16 PM)
agarwood dun have. thats expensive stuff if the correct batch produce the oils.
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Ah,what a pity biggrin.gif
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post Apr 4 2019, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 4 2019, 06:37 PM)
belian is one of the hardest wood
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Yes, I know..What I really want to know is any wood out there that is harder than belian? hmm.gif
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post Apr 5 2019, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Apr 5 2019, 09:03 AM)
Nice..Apparently belian wood are nowhere in the top 10 lol but it will not change my opinion about Belian which is a special wood indeed...

Inb4,one poster who is always hang in reno tered will question my opinion, with his you're not carpenter hoooha lol...
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post Apr 5 2019, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 5 2019, 09:51 AM)
Of the list, I am only familiar with lignum vitae and snakewood.
The former is so hard that even tools will be blunt, so I don't think it is realistic to be used to build house, snakewood at least in bows used in violin is hard but brittle.

I think the point is the wood should be hard enough is enough, more importantly is cost and workability.
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Yeah but harder doesn't mean more durable right,no?
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post Apr 5 2019, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(mabaw @ Apr 5 2019, 03:51 PM)
kampung style
not true traditional
those tukang that are capable of building true traditional houses like without nail are very rare
will not be surprise if they asked 300 ringgit or more per day
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Wah very nice rclxms.gif
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post Apr 5 2019, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(lucky8six @ Apr 5 2019, 10:29 PM)
Both superb durable and no study research to prove which is tougher and durable. But if i were to pick. Belian Wood for the win easily. Belian wood is crowned as borneo king of the wood (ironwood). All panjang Dayak house structure made with belian woods still standing strong today that last few generations. Fun fact It takes 120 years to grow 30cm diameter.

https://www.frim.gov.my/colour-of-frim/eusi.../cv0/ab88/pt357

Owning a piece of Belian wood (Long table) is consider very luxury in Sarawak. Belian = Berlian = Diamond

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Wanna show some of my collection Belian Wood. Owning belian wood mean last forever. Above piece (left) is believed nearly 200 years old belian wood. It was excavate under ground earth. That's why the grain is deep. Belian wood is getting scarcity nowdays. Usually pass down by older generation.
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I can feel you bro thumbup.gif I heard the same exact story from my friend who lives in a traditional long houses .Thanks for showing me your collection.Seems to me,Belian wood to many people there in Borneo is more than just a wood and I can only agree with that.It's part of your people's heritage afterall smile.gif


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