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SUSAngelic Layer
post Apr 4 2019, 06:31 AM, updated 7y ago

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We all know that the wooden houses of the past, those may still survived on older kampung barus and Malay kampungs left a lot to be desired in the modern age.
I wondered if any of you know of any example of wooden house of modern design still being build in Malaysia?

Is it still viable?
And is it true that wooden house is more expensive to build than their concrete counterpart?
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post Apr 4 2019, 06:38 AM

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post Apr 4 2019, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 4 2019, 06:31 AM)
We all know that the wooden houses of the past, those may still survived on older kampung barus and Malay kampungs left a lot to be desired in the modern age.
I wondered if any of you know of any example of wooden house of modern design still being build in Malaysia?

Is it still viable?
And is it true that wooden house is more expensive to build than their concrete counterpart?
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malaysia weather wet, hot and humid, with termite nearby. sweat.gif
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:07 AM

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Yup, it is more expensive to build especially if using hard wood such as merbau, cengal.

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post Apr 4 2019, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(birain @ Apr 4 2019, 07:00 AM)
malaysia weather wet, hot and humid, with termite nearby.  sweat.gif
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There are termite resistant hardwoods, but I'm sure those are pretty expensive.
But with modern chemical treated woods probably it can be relatively termite resistant?

I felt that ventilation with wood is quite good, and you probably don't need as much air conditioning under the weather, and it is more environmental friendly in the sense that it left lesser harmful materials.
I just don't see many if not any of them build new anymore.

Probably not viable for commercial housing project, but one off house?
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(BS8110 @ Apr 4 2019, 07:07 AM)
Yup, it is more expensive to build especially if using hard wood such as merbau, cengal.
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Found this while I am looking for Chenggal:
http://www.mtc.com.my/resources-Projects-C...useLangkawi.php
Looks very nice.

I believe it can be build cheaper if steel frame and structure is used and wood only for walls, flooring and cladding?
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 4 2019, 07:12 AM)
Found this while I am looking for Chenggal:
http://www.mtc.com.my/resources-Projects-C...useLangkawi.php
Looks very nice.

I believe it can be build cheaper if steel frame and structure is used and wood only for walls, flooring and cladding?
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Actually no need for chengal, balau and merbau timber... Now timber treatment is good enuff... Jus that the design have to be right... Glulam and CLT is the way forward to utilise smaller timber... Heck even pine can be use if the proper treatment and design is apply...
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(xavi5567 @ Apr 4 2019, 07:24 AM)
Actually no need for chengal, balau and merbau timber... Now timber treatment is good enuff... Jus that the design have to be right... Glulam and CLT is the way forward to utilise smaller timber... Heck even pine can be use if the proper treatment and design is apply...
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Do you have any idea of any local architect or actual house that is build that is done using these?
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:46 AM

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Go to kelantan Kota bahru. There still papan house in middle of the town.
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:47 AM

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Insurance won't wanna underwrite your property. Too high risk.

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post Apr 4 2019, 07:52 AM

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i can feel the heat of rumah papan from just reading this thread

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post Apr 4 2019, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Apr 4 2019, 07:46 AM)
Go to kelantan Kota bahru. There still papan house in middle of the town.
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But it is in traditional old style, isn't it?

QUOTE(Mixo Mania @ Apr 4 2019, 07:47 AM)
Insurance won't wanna underwrite your property. Too high risk.
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I don't see it can be a problem if it was for a smaller chalet or vacation house type of property.
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post Apr 4 2019, 07:58 AM

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Wood is more expensive especially chengal wood.. Try to ask anyone bout their price now
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post Apr 4 2019, 08:44 AM

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Wooden house need a lot of maintenance.
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post Apr 4 2019, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 4 2019, 07:07 AM)
There are termite resistant hardwoods, but I'm sure those are pretty expensive.
But with modern chemical treated woods probably it can be relatively termite resistant?

I felt that ventilation with wood is quite good, and you probably don't need as much air conditioning under the weather, and it is more environmental friendly in the sense that it left lesser harmful materials.
I just don't see many if not any of them build new anymore.

Probably not viable for commercial housing project, but one off house?
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That is wrong. Wooden house is not a good heat insulator. During the day, it will become crazy hot until cannot tahan.

That's why people prefer concrete house. Concrete house tend to be more cooler in a hot day because the heat takes longer to penetrate the house.


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post Apr 4 2019, 09:07 AM

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Some seaside/island resort home built using timber
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So many holes , sked cockroach/snake come in easily.
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post Apr 4 2019, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Apr 4 2019, 08:53 AM)
That is wrong. Wooden house is not a good heat insulator. During the day, it will become crazy hot until cannot tahan.

That's why people prefer concrete house. Concrete house tend to be more cooler in a hot day because the heat takes longer to penetrate the house.
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Wood is a good insulator weight for weight when compared to concrete, it is just the problem of leakage.

QUOTE(smallcrab @ Apr 4 2019, 09:12 AM)
So many holes , sked cockroach/snake come in easily.
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That is the problem of traditionally build house, but most houses in Japan, US and Europe when build of modern method in wood wouldn't have such problems as much.

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post Apr 4 2019, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Apr 4 2019, 09:24 AM)
Wood is a good insulator weight for weight when compared to concrete, it is just the problem of leakage.
That is the problem of traditionally build house, but most houses in Japan, US and Europe when build of modern method in wood wouldn't have such problems as much.
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Really ah? Then maybe because wood tend to be thinner than concrete. Concrete tend to be thicker therefore its better for heat protection.

But my experience in a wooden kampung house is all very hot. Cannot tahan wor must on kipas
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