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post Mar 30 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(jmas @ Mar 30 2019, 01:19 PM)
More like TS family out of the loop, never attend AGM and never read the minutes
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Who knows, ts say his family and all neighbors also don't know.

But ts now cannot post because limit reached laugh.gif
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:22 PM

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Just admit la

You in Air bnb biz ?
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:22 PM

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post Mar 30 2019, 01:24 PM

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post Mar 30 2019, 01:24 PM

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JMB crony punya project
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(julieweiwei90 @ Mar 30 2019, 12:52 PM)
I need advice as now my family a bit upset. They inform  me one of our condo have implement face recognition system to replace the current normal access card system without getting views from residents. System already installed and going to be implemented.  This a a new condo of only less than 3 years. No other condo has done this or change a system in such a new condo... so must be some $$$ involved.

I also think they cannot simply install or change the current system given by developer right? And they cannot use maintenance money for this kind of implementation. If they want to use sinking fund, need resident approval and meeting. So i suspect they break laws. What action can take?
Further more we will have a lot of problem if use the new system. As this is a family home/holiday home, we often have different family members frequent the place. Sometimes friends stay there too. Don't expect all to register face. And they are old and kids too. Even to walk in need scan face which currently we just use access card.

Mom also mentions a lot of money spending after new committee formed and new chairperson. Spend money like water. Doing extra wiring, add unnecessary items ... everything is about spending money and not saving. Whom/which authority can i write in to? I am based in Spore but do fly back often.

Need some opinion before ask my family to consult our developer lawyers on what actions can be taken.

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QUOTE(julieweiwei90 @ Mar 30 2019, 01:00 PM)
which forum?

yes.... its JMB work all this.
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So obvious nobody want to rent your house and forced to do homestay. Homestay owner can go to hell. Got law ban homestay. When I was JMb president, I also did fingerprint scanner. Many homestay owner go out of business.

QUOTE(julieweiwei90 @ Mar 30 2019, 01:01 PM)
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:27 PM

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As this is a family home/holiday home, we often have different family members frequent the place. Sometimes friends stay there too. Don't expect all to register face. And they are old and kids too. Even to walk in need scan face which currently we just use access card.
definitely to counter this^

I agree with face ID
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 30 2019, 01:24 PM)
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Maybe. But when I am JMB president, I did the same thing to destroy homestay aka airbnb
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(julieweiwei90 @ Mar 30 2019, 12:52 PM)
I need advice as now my family a bit upset. They inform  me one of our condo have implement face recognition system to replace the current normal access card system without getting views from residents. System already installed and going to be implemented.  This a a new condo of only less than 3 years. No other condo has done this or change a system in such a new condo... so must be some $$$ involved.

I also think they cannot simply install or change the current system given by developer right? And they cannot use maintenance money for this kind of implementation. If they want to use sinking fund, need resident approval and meeting. So i suspect they break laws. What action can take?
Further more we will have a lot of problem if use the new system. As this is a family home/holiday home, we often have different family members frequent the place. Sometimes friends stay there too. Don't expect all to register face. And they are old and kids too. Even to walk in need scan face which currently we just use access card.

Mom also mentions a lot of money spending after new committee formed and new chairperson. Spend money like water. Doing extra wiring, add unnecessary items ... everything is about spending money and not saving. Whom/which authority can i write in to? I am based in Spore but do fly back often.

Need some opinion before ask my family to consult our developer lawyers on what actions can be taken.

Value valuable advise.
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Upset? Access cards are well known to be easily cloned. If the system works, then it is a very good thing.

Yes, the management can change the current system. And, no, they didn't break any law. You better read the Strata Management Act. And nothing in the Act requires the approval of the residents in a general meeting to use the sinking fund.

The sinking fund can only be used for repainting the building and for capital expenditures and not for maintenance purposes. For example, buying a new lift is considered a capital expenditure but repairing the lift is considered as maintenance. To pay for repairing is use the money from the maintenance fund.


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post Mar 30 2019, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Mar 30 2019, 12:58 PM)
I guess to ban airbnb/homestay/short tem stay.
Mind if you are able to share which project is this? In Klang Valley or somewhere else?
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Most likely that's the case and it is a good thing to ban airbnb in condos. Condo security would be totally meaningless if everyday got hundreds of new residents.
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:43 PM

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post Mar 30 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Mar 30 2019, 01:13 PM)
Maybe got consent from majority of the residents during meeting , that u didn't know coz didn't attend le......
I think is a good move where security is much heightened, won't oppose it
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Residents who are not owners have no right to attend general meetings. Only owners (who may not necessarily be residents) can attend general meetings.

And many ignorantly thought that many matters need approval in general meetings when in fact there are not many things that require their approvals.

What sort of things that require owners' approvals? Examples: raising maintenance and sinking fund rates, changing or adding new by-laws and electing committee members.


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post Mar 30 2019, 01:46 PM

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TS, what condo name u staying ?

If follow this new, this tech need to be regulated

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...t-be-regulated/
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post Mar 30 2019, 01:54 PM

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1. JMB can implement as long as they discussed and got majority vote to approve during AGM. Did you family even bother to attend AGM?

2. If family home then just register your family la. Apa susah? How big is your family anyways and takkan everyone come one by one? If come for family vacation sure come in a group what, one or 2 person from the group register sudah la.

3. Just admit it, your family doing Airbnb right?
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Mar 30 2019, 01:46 PM)
TS, what condo name u staying ?

If follow this new, this tech need to be regulated

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...t-be-regulated/
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Proposal to regulate because of privacy concerns? What a bunch of idiots. Might as well ban the use of CCTVs in condos. It's just a form of biometric security lah.

More and more governments around the world are using this tech because can detect from far.


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post Mar 30 2019, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Mar 30 2019, 01:54 PM)
1. JMB can implement as long as they discussed and got majority vote to approve during AGM. Did you family even bother to attend AGM?

2. If family home then just register your family la. Apa susah? How big is your family anyways and takkan everyone come one by one? If come for family vacation sure come in a group what, one or 2 person from the group register sudah la.

3. Just admit it, your family doing Airbnb right?
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Wrong. The majority approval that is needed is during a committee meeting. Not every matter is required to be approved in a general meeting. Or else change security firm or lifts also must wait for AGM or EGM.


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post Mar 30 2019, 02:24 PM

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So many hutthurt against airbnb/homestay business.

Why?

If not doing airbnb/homestay, then the owners want to do rental.
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 30 2019, 02:24 PM)
So many hutthurt against airbnb/homestay business.

Why?

If not doing airbnb/homestay, then the owners want to do rental.
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rental tenants don't change daily or weekly.
they can be family like residents, just that they don't own the property

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