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oe_kintaro
post Apr 3 2019, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Apr 3 2019, 01:31 AM)
Get your facts right, go to any bookstore and buy yourself the Strata Management Act, go to Regulations Schedule 3. Nothing mention on the security issues. In addition, please have a look at your house rule book prepared by developer (DMC), SOME do state that any security-related issues handover to security and management for the best interest of all residents. 

Besides, no limit on amount for JMB/MC to spend unless someone already put a motion during the AGM to cap the expenditure. Other than that, they can spend all money as long as for the purpose stated in SMA.

In conclusion, nope, the JMB/MC did not break any Malaysia Law. Even stated in DMC and SNP, as long as it contradict to the SMA, it consider nulls.

On the other hand, as an owner, you can walk into management office and seek for next JMB meeting. Yes, as an owner, you can sit it as an observer but no power to vote. In addition, you can file in complain to tribunal/COB/management on this and seek for EGM.  Within 14 days (if not mistaken), they shall proceed for EGM IF JMB/MC found guilty etc. If not, nothing to proceed.

Even as AirBnB owner, you want to sue JMB/MC, you are most likely to fail, as the strata title clearly indicates for residential purposes and not business. if you are running business on the residential premise, you are getting yourself in further trouble. Don't act gung ho just because you are "Singaporean". Many of us here are JMB/MC and well verse on SMA. For more information on owner's right, it is stated within the Act as well.
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Yes, experienced this before with a problematic JMB. Only way to force them out is through EGM. Not easy given how apathetic and ignorant people are. The agitators often need to mount a door to door campaign to rustle up support, and if the JMB is well entrenched they might have a bank of proxy votes to protect themselves from being ousted.
In the JMB there often both honest and selfless people and also corrupted opportunists. Among the residents you have a motley collection of apathetics, ingrates, troublemakers and NATOs.

A happy and well run community is dependent on everyone playing a part.
If TS disengaged herself from the community building process and allowed the JMB to run rampant, there's nothing she can do except to reengage in order to right things.
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post Aug 25 2024, 01:59 AM

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Just looking at this thread. I guess it's one of my condo. And I'm the chairman on that time to implement the facial recognition system. To be clear, only entrance with visitors walk in required facial recognition, up to 6/8 people per unit.

Logically if you are renting to tenants, your tenant won't change frequently within short period. The total cost of implementing this is less than 5k. It did banned Airbnb operators & avoid some potential crime happening.. if some syndicate rent house here and do some scam works. Every tenant must perform facial recognition..

At that time, many people renting out access card to swimming trainers, outsider for gym, facilities and etc. No choices and we have to limit it as cloned card is easily handled and want to minimize the breakdown of facilities. So far so good, no one complained except those Airbnb operators. Now no more issues on this.

For those used as family vacation or for relatives friend stay purpose. You may pass your vehicle access card and they can move in to car park and access to unit without facial recognition.. only main entrance installed facial recognition to restricted cloned card people.

That year, I have implemented the changes of replacement all light tube to energy savings by reduce size from 4ft to 2ft and all lower wattages. Electricity bill reduced from monthly 24k to 14k. ROI within few months for all blocks. Then we have surpluses for few year until recent years new MC cause decifit and our surpluses is reducing.

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post Jul 18 2025, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(julieweiwei90 @ Mar 30 2019, 12:52 PM)
I need advice as now my family a bit upset. They inform  me one of our condo have implement face recognition system to replace the current normal access card system without getting views from residents. System already installed and going to be implemented.  This a a new condo of only less than 3 years. No other condo has done this or change a system in such a new condo... so must be some $$$ involved.

I also think they cannot simply install or change the current system given by developer right? And they cannot use maintenance money for this kind of implementation. If they want to use sinking fund, need resident approval and meeting. So i suspect they break laws. What action can take?
Further more we will have a lot of problem if use the new system. As this is a family home/holiday home, we often have different family members frequent the place. Sometimes friends stay there too. Don't expect all to register face. And they are old and kids too. Even to walk in need scan face which currently we just use access card.

Mom also mentions a lot of money spending after new committee formed and new chairperson. Spend money like water. Doing extra wiring, add unnecessary items ... everything is about spending money and not saving. Whom/which authority can i write in to? I am based in Spore but do fly back often.

Need some opinion before ask my family to consult our developer lawyers on what actions can be taken.

Value valuable advise.
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one thing that i want to correct here is "that use of sinking fund needs approval by owners/agm" is a misconception. it is not stated explicitly like that in the Strata Management ACT 2013. The elected committee of the day has all rights and are in fact authorised to use sinking funds when necessary. Sometimes change of something as simple as a main water pump requires the use of sinking fund or other additions such a as replacing the pool lounger or other furnitures. So the management committee are authorised to spend. In some instances when the cost is significant like let's say the are going to repaint the entire condo then it would be "appropriate" to inform the cost at an agm or perhaps present it at agm. If they want to install or change the entry system they do not have to get every owner's approval. BUT if the current system is working fine then it can be a cause for concern like why they want to change.

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