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 Huawei P30 Series V1, Best Camera Phone!

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davidletterboyz
post Mar 27 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Mar 27 2019, 10:22 AM)
I had used so many types from different manufacturers - oppo, one plus, HTC, Samsung, nexus, Huawei, Motorola, Sony etc and seriously none of these phone UI had bother me
Choosing a phone based on their UI I deemed as silly
There is no best UI as far as I am concerned
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Agreed. It's not like the UI are totally different in different Android skins. Just minor here and there. Nothing as bad as a deal breaker.
But having said that, the animation performance of different skins do have some differences.

QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 27 2019, 12:07 PM)
This is crazy

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Ah well, iPhone hasn't been the forerunner in phone camera race for quite some times already. It's not a formidable rival to pick actually. They should compare with Pixel lol.

QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 27 2019, 12:09 PM)
Both Samsung and Huawei should stop asking their CEO to talk when they are launching their phones.

They have to know there is only 1 Steve jobs, the rest are just CEO that get hired. Stop pretending they care about their products and act like very enthusiastic in selling those.

Their Chinese accent English and Korean accent English doh.gif
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Agreed. Those two cannot really present well in English. The Samsung Mobile CEO's English is not as worse as the Huaweis though.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 27 2019, 01:20 PM)
I suspected it's would be around RM2,899  devil.gif
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tsk tsk tsk. Too close to S10 bro. Having said that, if the 48MP sensor is the 1/2" IMX586, then it's not bad, provided the post processing is done properly like View 20.

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post Mar 27 2019, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(SMB002 @ Mar 27 2019, 04:46 PM)
Actually I wonder why their CEO english so bad?
I've met a few CEOs before (Japanese) and their english really good.
Sony CEO Kazuo Hirai English also really pleasant to ears.
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Mr Hirai attended American school in Japan. Basically, international school. Different background.

Having said that, most Japanese CEO doesn't speak English and leave the international product launches to their American or European counterparts. Whilst the Samsung and Huawei Mobile CEOs are fighting gravity....
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post Mar 28 2019, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Mar 28 2019, 02:29 PM)
nvm it la...macam la kids know mono or stereo.
hahahaha!!
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Actually a lot of gadget journalists also misunderstood what stereo is.
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post Mar 29 2019, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 29 2019, 09:12 AM)
Impressive pictures..
Huawei really did good job...
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That's why I really love Leica out of camera color profiles, especially smooth and monochrome. None of them looks like reality, but like I mentioned before, all award winning photos don't look like reality at all. It's just too bad I can't stand the teardrop notch lol.

QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Mar 29 2019, 09:34 AM)
Well LG quiet not meant they not supplied. Lol... Good if Huawei side can double confirm.
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Actually if you notice, the P30Pro display curve is like S7 edge. The curve is more dramatic and less smooth than S10.

QUOTE(killer zone II @ Mar 29 2019, 09:42 AM)
Guys, if we not use the zoom function, does the P30 Pro camera comparable with Mate 20 Pro camera?

Right now the Mate 20 Pro can get at RM2699 official set thru Lazada Gstore. Very affordable.

Currently using Honor 10, and the low light or indoor shot is biggest letdown.
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No. P30 Pro new SuperSensing main camera sensor is better than M20 P. That's not to say M20 P sensor is bad. It's just the we have a new king.

I think M20P is a good buy at that price. The screen should be better. At least got dual speakers and much cheaper. Can you share the link?

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post Mar 29 2019, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 29 2019, 09:54 AM)
That is a minus point right?
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Both BOE or LG are not as good as Samsung.
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post Mar 29 2019, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Mar 29 2019, 11:29 AM)
seriously?
haha!! even if you ask me i also dunno.
lol.
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Stereo means the sound has left and right channels. Some phones have dual speakers but they separate treble and bass, not by channels. That's not stereo.
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post Apr 2 2019, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(shinzhizu @ Apr 2 2019, 04:58 PM)
Mate 20pro/x
40 MP, f/1.8, 27mm (wide), 1/1.7", PDAF/Laser AF
20 MP, f/2.2, 16mm (ultrawide), 1/2.7", PDAF/Laser AF
8 MP, f/2.4, 80mm (telephoto), 1/4", 5x optical zoom, OIS, PDAF/Laser AF

p30
40 MP, f/1.8, 27mm (wide), 1/1.7", PDAF/Laser AF
16 MP, f/2.2, 17mm (ultrawide), PDAF/Laser AF
8 MP, f/2.4, 80mm (telephoto), 1/4", 3x optical zoom, PDAF/Laser AF, OIS

based on above comparison, p30 camera lose to Mate 20pro/X. Am I correct?
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The P30 40MP sensor is a new sensor. The new main sensor is slightly better in low light but both doesn't have OIS.
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post Apr 2 2019, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Apr 2 2019, 05:58 PM)
Mate 20 Pro is cheaper bro. Check shopee...the cheapest can be had for RM2550. I would go for the Mate 20 Pro. The specs is more balanced. You gain dual speakers (although P30 one speaker is louder), QHD+ display, and wireless charging without the need of special casing. The only thing P30 is better is the main camera. It's only noticeable during low light where the ISO is lower on P30 but if we are in low light condition, the Night Mode will solve that issue.
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post Apr 2 2019, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(xisan @ Apr 2 2019, 04:40 PM)
Lucky the freebies are not that great, I can use Mate20 Pro longer laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alexleow81 @ Apr 2 2019, 04:41 PM)
I also using Mate 20 Pro. I found out that the camera for P30 is way much much better than Mate20Pro. Just bought when price drops.
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Come to think about it, Huawei is a master in advertising + marketing strategy. I suspect the number of pre-order is limited, likely is much smaller than Samsung S10 series. The freebies are only Huawei phones relevant. Basically no chance for scrapers to make quick profits for this pre order batch. What a genius master stroke.
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post Apr 2 2019, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(attw @ Apr 2 2019, 06:11 PM)
Yup, will wait smile.gif
2550? Is that a preferred seller? Very good price!
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Yes bro.
https://shopee.com.my/-Free-Gift-Huawei-Mat...0115.1702568195

Tempting right?
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post Apr 2 2019, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Apr 2 2019, 06:14 PM)
if no OIS, take photo or video will shake and blur or not?
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For photo, it's all about the shutter speed and how steady is the photographer's hand. I think it's doing just fine. Otherwise Mate 20 thread will be full of blurry photos lol. Unlike Mi 9 (good 40MP sensor but no OIS), the Mate 20 has a big sensor which can shoot at ISO not as high as Mi 9.

Having said that, iFixIt claimed P20 Pro has OIS: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Huawei+P20+...Teardown/104605

But the way the main sensor lens moved when they touched it vs the telephoto lens, I think the main sensor has no OIS.
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post Apr 2 2019, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(xSean @ Apr 2 2019, 06:26 PM)
how about video? using EIS to replace OIS?
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Yes. They just market it as AI assisted stabilisation lol.

QUOTE(attw @ Apr 2 2019, 06:32 PM)
Thanks for the link bro... yes, very tempting smile.gif
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How? Go for it? Haha

QUOTE(AmeiN @ Apr 2 2019, 06:34 PM)
P30 pro 40MP got OIS, meaning another new 40MP sensor?
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From the specs, the P30 Pro and P30 main camera sensor is the same but different lens and no OIS to make P30 a bit worse. Otherwise why pay RM1.1k more for P30? Haha

QUOTE(starship1 @ Apr 2 2019, 08:05 PM)
There are many secrets in making great sensors , whereby,  of course Sony is unwilling to share with any of its competitors and even within Sony Corp inter-divisions e.g; camera and mobile division.
That's why Sony mobile is in deep trouble but its Camera division is flying high.

Sensor is the most important component of a camera set-up. It is where the best or worst image are captured and converted/processed into image. Size of the sensor matter too .
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It's probably just a matter of time but Sony does have vast experience and IP.

BTW, did you guys notice BOE came out of nowhere and overtook LG in chasing Samsung's OLED display tech?

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/...D-tech-to-China
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post Apr 3 2019, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(ONGEDWIN @ Apr 2 2019, 08:44 PM)
Anyone knows if buy extra huawei warranty from huawei malaysia official need to pay how much?
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No need buy. Huawei phone is durable. Normally if got issue also will surface within the first year. And the resale value is very bad after 6-mth anyway.

QUOTE(mafioso @ Apr 2 2019, 09:21 PM)
https://consumer.huawei.com/my/campaign/hua...trade-in-deals/
hahahaha trade only for huawei to huawei

GOOD LUCK trying to gain non huawei users.

LOL

p20 to p30 value is a joke too. only 1250

at least note 8 to note 9, samsung gave 1950. got respect their flagship users a bit.

and both are 1 generation apart.

this one literally is huawei laughing at their own customers.
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LoL Huawei did a Hyundai there. Last time if you traded in a Hyundai for a new Hyundai, they low-balled kaw kaw...even Toyota offered higher trade in price hahaha

QUOTE(attw @ Apr 2 2019, 09:38 PM)
The trade-in for the Mate 20 Pro is quite fair though, considering the street price now is as low as 25xx.
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That's because the MSRP for M20P is 2999.
But I agree that's a fair price considering the street price has plummeted so much.
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post Apr 3 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(starship1 @ Apr 3 2019, 11:40 AM)
Pages not moving fast .
i think ah , this P30s are more suitable for or more Kampung and Chinese New Village people buying.
Because ah , ada more beautiful sungai , seaside ,rain forest  or coconut trees , more colorful flowers , blue sky , pretty landscape.
In big cities , only people and buildings. Cincai punya camera . kawtim liao
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IMHO is the other way round la. Photography is all about lighting. For outdoor photography, that would be the sun. Easier to get usable sun light at kampong area. No high rise building blocking. tongue.gif
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post Apr 6 2019, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(kongkkm @ Apr 6 2019, 06:40 AM)
Currently at Huawei@Mid Valley. I think I come way too earlier. Only few ppl around.

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QUOTE(cheesey @ Apr 6 2019, 07:47 AM)
anyone in KINTA CITY?
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I don't think it will sell out in Ipoh so soon bro. The free gift is weak. No resale value unlike S10 series. It's not like we go snorkeling every day.

QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Apr 6 2019, 08:25 AM)
P30 Pro photo album to keep your expectation right
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The photographer struggled with the zoom lens composition. Yes he might want to show the zoom ability but it's just not attractive.

Even myself, I am not comfortable with high zoom lens, except for sports (P30 pro can't track focus that fast) and portrait (90mm for DSLR). In that case, no need for 5x zoom.

The following gallery is much better. And most of the shots are not using the zoom lens.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/janitors/sets...255967132/page1
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post Apr 6 2019, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(starship1 @ Apr 6 2019, 08:57 AM)
I thought this kind of scene and obsession is gone in 2019 for expensive flagships or is it the income and currency disparity between us and them.
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I think it's the other way round. Rich people is getting richer la. Only flagship got queue. You see Xiaomi Mi9.... Very quiet. Mid end market harder to do. U see BMW and Merc sales. Not affected by economy at all. In fact improving over the years lol
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post Apr 6 2019, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kyl3 @ Apr 6 2019, 09:44 AM)
Well most of us are not really pro photographers and most shots will look like that at the end
Main gripe with the cam is the overly sharpen photo, hopefully can tune this or at least raw file is good
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Huawei Leica post processing always had been not for pixel peeping. But from P20 pro to Mate 20 Pro to P30 Pro, they have improved a lot.
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post Apr 6 2019, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(versey @ Apr 6 2019, 10:41 AM)
P30 Pro is a game changer in mobile photography.

Trust me, many Pro photographers will buy this phone.

The only lacking is in video mode.

For photos... It is the king.

Haters gonna hate... Esp the American and British.
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Yes. But I would not call it a game changer as P20 Pro la.
Video is not as good as S10 though. And the mic quality is below S10 ... But still much better than Pixel. Pixel's mic is a POS.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 6 2019, 10:48 AM)
Hehehehe..
Some fanboy would say 😴
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All phone also low RV la... except iPhone haha.

QUOTE(cheesey @ Apr 6 2019, 10:48 AM)
Do you think video mode will get improvement? Maybe software update by huawei?
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Don't hope much. But then I seldom use video recording. If I do, I need good audio.
My priority is still photo.

QUOTE(versey @ Apr 6 2019, 10:53 AM)
Actually the 1080p mode is quite good.

But 4k video mode is still not smooth when doing panning and walking...

I don't know any software update will fix it...the only way is to crop the 4k video and stabilise it in post process to make it more usable.
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It will lose some sharpness if crop 4K.
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post Apr 6 2019, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(superduperodua @ Apr 6 2019, 12:08 PM)
1st Avenue... 10x zoom is fantastic, but but but the OLED screen loses to my Note9 by a big margin.

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Are you sure you can see the difference with naked eye? If P30 screen lose to Note 9, then vs S10 will be even bigger gap.
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post Apr 6 2019, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(superduperodua @ Apr 6 2019, 12:25 PM)
The OLED screen makes my face feel strained & uncomfortable.
Yes, the right side of my face is sensitive to LED, IPS, LCD screen, just playing with the P30Pro for few mins i knew the OLED not as good as my Note9 or maybe its the lighting inside the mall tongue.gif
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Actually I also noticed the S10 AMOLED is not as straining when compared side by side to the P20 Pro I had. It's not about the brightness because I matched their brightness and the was clearer when both are dimmed at dark environment. I think it could be due to the blue color wavelength. I'm not sure.

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