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imadeyoureadthis1
post Mar 20 2019, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Mar 20 2019, 09:47 AM)
how can removing comments be remedying the situation? I'm sure he If he was not shamed , he will continue be a sexist and potentially become a  future rapist tunggang his position as a Dr.
At least now the situation went public , hundreds of future victims spared .
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The thing is we only "get to know him" because of his online personalities exposed by the commenters.We do not have information on how he behaves in real life where we are bound by tacit social rules not to behave negatively. We are too quick to make negative judgement on him.

Let's be honest. We all harbour negative thoughts during our life. Which is why we express them on internet to get validation from other users on internet or get corrected by them which is a good thing. Is this wrong? Not necessarily. See, we are already bound by social rules not to behave unreasonably, where else can we seek places to vent our frustration?
The internet.

His mistake was that he used his main profile to express the derogatory statement. He does not know how impactful the situation was until he decided to swiftly remove the comment
in order to reduce the tension built.

But the users WERE NOT even giving him a chance to remedy the situation. They took screenshot of it and posted everywhere. Their action of taking screenshot was worse than what he did to the late celebrity.

Let me emphasise, there were derogatory comments made by other users using their not-serious fake accounts and none of them were mentioned on news . Is his ignorance to seriousness of his comment proportioned to the treatment he received ? (his reputation is damaged, his career prospect too ,based on A REMOVED comment SCREENSHOTTED and FOCUSED by internet users)

Last but not least, has the victim's family made an official announcement of his distasteful comment? If not , it means that the matter was not worth to catch their attention. Remember that.

People should calm down. We did mistakes , we try to reduce the extent of the damage. This shouldn't be on news if those SJWs had not took a screenshot of the withdrawn comment and spread everywhere. Those SJWs are sharing the immoral things they did to him. Worse still they are too many to be marked down. Sad world really. Not everything deserve to be on hot news.

This post has been edited by imadeyoureadthis1: Mar 20 2019, 10:38 AM
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Mar 20 2019, 10:35 AM)
The thing is we only "get to know him" because of his online personalities exposed by the commenters.We do not have information on how he behaves in real life where we are bound by tacit social rules not to behave negatively. We are too quick to make negative judgement on him.

Let's be honest. We all harbour negative thoughts during our life. Which is why we express them on internet to get validation from other users on internet or get corrected by them which is a good thing. Is this wrong? Not necessarily. See, we are already bound by social rules not to behave unreasonably, where else can we seek places to vent our frustration?
The internet.

His mistake was that he used his main profile to express the derogatory statement. He does not know how impactful  the situation was until he decided to swiftly remove the comment
in order to reduce the tension built.

But the users WERE NOT even giving him a chance to remedy the situation. They took screenshot of it and posted everywhere. Their action of taking screenshot was worse than what he did to the late celebrity.

Let me emphasise, there were derogatory comments made by other users using their not-serious fake accounts and none of them were mentioned on news . Is his ignorance to seriousness of his comment proportioned to the treatment he received ? (his reputation is damaged, his career prospect too ,based on A REMOVED comment SCREENSHOTTED and FOCUSED by internet users)

Last but not least, has the victim's family made an official announcement of his distasteful comment? If not , it means that the matter was not worth to catch their attention. Remember that.

People should calm down. We did mistakes , we try to reduce the extent of the damage. This shouldn't be on news if those SJWs had not took a screenshot of the withdrawn comment and spread everywhere. Those SJWs are sharing the immoral things they did to him. Worse still they are too many to be marked down. Sad world really. Not everything deserve to be on hot news.
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User only take screen shot of his comment.. all the comment is from his self.. what more to defend..

Do he really know what he is apology to? to please others or to remedy for his mistake? but from his Fb apology is much more to please others..

if he want to change then let time to proof it.. not FORCE others to accept his apology with no consequences of his action..

by the way.. he might be younger version of this news.. https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018...f-sexual-abuse/


If your defending your friend or family right now.. go x yourself..
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Mar 20 2019, 10:35 AM)
The thing is we only "get to know him" because of his online personalities exposed by the commenters.We do not have information on how he behaves in real life where we are bound by tacit social rules not to behave negatively. We are too quick to make negative judgement on him.

Let's be honest. We all harbour negative thoughts during our life. Which is why we express them on internet to get validation from other users on internet or get corrected by them which is a good thing. Is this wrong? Not necessarily. See, we are already bound by social rules not to behave unreasonably, where else can we seek places to vent our frustration?
The internet.

His mistake was that he used his main profile to express the derogatory statement. He does not know how impactful  the situation was until he decided to swiftly remove the comment
in order to reduce the tension built.

But the users WERE NOT even giving him a chance to remedy the situation. They took screenshot of it and posted everywhere. Their action of taking screenshot was worse than what he did to the late celebrity.

Let me emphasise, there were derogatory comments made by other users using their not-serious fake accounts and none of them were mentioned on news . Is his ignorance to seriousness of his comment proportioned to the treatment he received ? (his reputation is damaged, his career prospect too ,based on A REMOVED comment SCREENSHOTTED and FOCUSED by internet users)

Last but not least, has the victim's family made an official announcement of his distasteful comment? If not , it means that the matter was not worth to catch their attention. Remember that.

People should calm down. We did mistakes , we try to reduce the extent of the damage. This shouldn't be on news if those SJWs had not took a screenshot of the withdrawn comment and spread everywhere. Those SJWs are sharing the immoral things they did to him. Worse still they are too many to be marked down. Sad world really. Not everything deserve to be on hot news.
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Yes some people make mistakes, and there are always price to the mistakes. In this case, it is his future as he did not use his brain to think.
Is it proportionate to the mistake that he has done? Possibly not, but that's the price you pay and hey, the world is not fair.

btw, hi kiren! too bad, hope you learn your lesson and move on
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Mar 20 2019, 09:49 AM)
Bad news is his career prospect is destroyed. An employer who does a quick search on internet will know whether he is a person worth hiring.
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i rephrase..

bad news is he just destroyed his own career prospect.. and he might have hard to get a job due to his sexual/predator remark exposed in internet..


maybe we need to know his family back ground.. who is pulling such a string to have public apology with micheal chong by his side..
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QUOTE(richardss @ Mar 20 2019, 10:43 AM)
Yes some people make mistakes, and there are always price to the mistakes. In this case, it is his future as he did not use his brain to think.
Is it proportionate to the mistake that he has done? Possibly not, but that's the price you pay and hey, the world is not fair.

btw, hi kiren! too bad, hope you learn your lesson and move on
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Every specialist have the ethic.. So where is the ethic of doctor/medical field? if it applied to the job.. of course naturally it apply to your life..

i cant brain there is still someone to back this guy up..
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:50 AM

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I will not seek to do any more replies. I am just giving a balanced view, since the discussion is slanted to one extreme.Agree or disagree is a matter rest upon you to decide.

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post Mar 20 2019, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Mar 20 2019, 10:35 AM)
The thing is we only "get to know him" because of his online personalities exposed by the commenters.We do not have information on how he behaves in real life where we are bound by tacit social rules not to behave negatively. We are too quick to make negative judgement on him.

Let's be honest. We all harbour negative thoughts during our life. Which is why we express them on internet to get validation from other users on internet or get corrected by them which is a good thing. Is this wrong? Not necessarily. See, we are already bound by social rules not to behave unreasonably, where else can we seek places to vent our frustration?
The internet.

His mistake was that he used his main profile to express the derogatory statement. He does not know how impactful  the situation was until he decided to swiftly remove the comment
in order to reduce the tension built.

But the users WERE NOT even giving him a chance to remedy the situation. They took screenshot of it and posted everywhere. Their action of taking screenshot was worse than what he did to the late celebrity.

Let me emphasise, there were derogatory comments made by other users using their not-serious fake accounts and none of them were mentioned on news . Is his ignorance to seriousness of his comment proportioned to the treatment he received ? (his reputation is damaged, his career prospect too ,based on A REMOVED comment SCREENSHOTTED and FOCUSED by internet users)

Last but not least, has the victim's family made an official announcement of his distasteful comment? If not , it means that the matter was not worth to catch their attention. Remember that.

People should calm down. We did mistakes , we try to reduce the extent of the damage. This shouldn't be on news if those SJWs had not took a screenshot of the withdrawn comment and spread everywhere. Those SJWs are sharing the immoral things they did to him. Worse still they are too many to be marked down. Sad world really. Not everything deserve to be on hot news.
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When does it count as 'swift'? A few days later after he came out with his so called 'first apology' or it should have been immediately he came out with the comment? Did you read all his comments? Not only his first statement about women should offer sex but the other statements after that? He wasn't even trying to remedy the situation, instead trying to stand behind his statement. The way you are explaining is like you weren't completely caught up with it. As one of the forummer has mentioned, it is common sense on what he should have commented. He is a doctor in making, how does he not use his common sense? If he is unable to think properly, you think he would be a proper doctor? Whose fault is it now that he is in this situation right now? The internet? The 'SJWs'?
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:54 AM

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Kiran Raj first apology was not an apology at all

He only removed his post after IMU ordered him to do so and his formal apology is only caused he now realised how serious it has escalated to that IMU could expelled him for having unsuitable character to be a doctor.

So can we forgive him.. Perhaps

But please don't defend him unless you are his friend or family member

Do not defend such acts.. He had long time to reflect before he was given the home suspension
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post Mar 20 2019, 10:57 AM

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in short.. if u wanna down with kiren.. then fxxk u too..

n have a good day!!
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QUOTE(imadeyoureadthis1 @ Mar 20 2019, 10:35 AM)
The thing is we only "get to know him" because of his online personalities exposed by the commenters.We do not have information on how he behaves in real life where we are bound by tacit social rules not to behave negatively. We are too quick to make negative judgement on him.

Let's be honest. We all harbour negative thoughts during our life. Which is why we express them on internet to get validation from other users on internet or get corrected by them which is a good thing. Is this wrong? Not necessarily. See, we are already bound by social rules not to behave unreasonably, where else can we seek places to vent our frustration?
The internet.

His mistake was that he used his main profile to express the derogatory statement. He does not know how impactful  the situation was until he decided to swiftly remove the comment
in order to reduce the tension built.

But the users WERE NOT even giving him a chance to remedy the situation. They took screenshot of it and posted everywhere. Their action of taking screenshot was worse than what he did to the late celebrity.

Let me emphasise, there were derogatory comments made by other users using their not-serious fake accounts and none of them were mentioned on news . Is his ignorance to seriousness of his comment proportioned to the treatment he received ? (his reputation is damaged, his career prospect too ,based on A REMOVED comment SCREENSHOTTED and FOCUSED by internet users)

Last but not least, has the victim's family made an official announcement of his distasteful comment? If not , it means that the matter was not worth to catch their attention. Remember that.

People should calm down. We did mistakes , we try to reduce the extent of the damage. This shouldn't be on news if those SJWs had not took a screenshot of the withdrawn comment and spread everywhere. Those SJWs are sharing the immoral things they did to him. Worse still they are too many to be marked down. Sad world really. Not everything deserve to be on hot news.
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tldr.. lets make him the first as an example of the true meaning of be responsibility... kerana mulut badan binasa..
this matter not only involve the Kong's family as his remark were general as well.
he for sure deserve the hot soup.

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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Mar 20 2019, 10:57 AM)
tldr.. lets make him the first as an example of the true meaning of be responsibility... kerana mulut badan binasa..
this matter not only involve the Kong's family as his remark were general as well.
he for sure deserve the hot soup.
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post Mar 20 2019, 11:42 AM

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i think he shud become a pharmacist instead of doctor..
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What did he posted? I think I missed that one out.

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post Mar 20 2019, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 20 2019, 10:54 AM)
Kiran Raj first apology was not an apology at all

He only removed his post after IMU ordered him to do so and his formal apology is only caused he now realised how serious it has escalated to that IMU could expelled him for having unsuitable character to be a doctor.

So can we forgive him.. Perhaps

But please don't defend him unless you are his friend or family member

Do not defend such acts.. He had long time to reflect before he was given the home suspension
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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Mar 20 2019, 10:57 AM)
tldr.. lets make him the first as an example of the true meaning of be responsibility... kerana mulut badan binasa..
this matter not only involve the Kong's family as his remark were general as well.
he for sure deserve the hot soup.
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I am more surprised that he was plotekted by his uni
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Mar 20 2019, 11:42 AM)
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so this is the face of someone who self proclaimed himself to have fakked a lot of chinese girls.

ahahahahaah.
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err is this kiren raj?
<_____> HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH..
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QUOTE(meteoraniac @ Mar 20 2019, 11:42 AM)
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Muka ni ada org nak ke???...mcm haram je.....
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QUOTE(ImUrDaddY @ Mar 20 2019, 01:36 PM)
err is this kiren raj?
<_____> HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH..
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QUOTE(froggyx @ Mar 20 2019, 01:38 PM)
Muka ni ada org nak ke???...mcm haram je.....
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