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 medical insurance cost sudden increase 29%, normal !?

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post Jul 24 2020, 09:14 PM

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Hi. Nice discussion here.
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QUOTE(Salary @ May 20 2020, 11:40 PM)
Sorry if this is personal, but may I know what age group do you fall into? My parents are in their 50s and they recently received the dreaded letter from Manulife, more than doubling their premiums.
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hi Salary, what is the medical plan that your parents have? any options to go for medical plans that are more worth it?

QUOTE(chicken7 @ Jul 7 2020, 12:44 PM)
received letter from GE telling me about revised insurance charges.
it was a surprise to me because wasn't expecting the premium to increase and wasn't inform by the agent when I sign up policy 6 yrs ago.  dry.gif

current rm3000/yr and they now suggest increase to rm3240/yr.
I am in my early 40s
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yes, GE revised their a few of their medical cards insurance charges. you will see the price adjustment % in the letter you received. insurance charges for ILP riders and standalone medical is something not guaranteed.
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post Jul 30 2020, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(chicken7 @ Jul 7 2020, 12:44 PM)
received letter from GE telling me about revised insurance charges.
it was a surprise to me because wasn't expecting the premium to increase and wasn't inform by the agent when I sign up policy 6 yrs ago.  dry.gif

current rm3000/yr and they now suggest increase to rm3240/yr.
I am in my early 40s
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GE just did a medical repricing, almost 40% increment.
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post Jul 30 2020, 02:30 PM

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Where’s the infamous quote where 99% insurance agents use: buy early cheaper premium ?

It increases as time pass regardless which age you buy. The policy is “upgraded “ from time to time. Even if you’re staying in old policy, the premium changes.

It all comes to affordability.
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post Jul 30 2020, 07:18 PM

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Medical cost increment is a fact and you should be happy with that.
New medical tech is discovered and built to save more life, but it could be costly.
Your life is now prolonged because you can be saved from disease that could have killed you.

If you don't want to pay the increment, then make sure your life expectancy is 60 yo and not 76 yo.
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post Jan 21 2021, 06:17 PM

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well at least 2 yrs later than some.......time they catches me this time...ha-ha
just got a letter from AIA regarding my son's premium increase

from 603 to 754 effective 5 Apr 2021.
sort of like 25% increase

and the increase is not due to attained age scale ...

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post Jan 21 2021, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Jul 30 2020, 02:30 PM)
Where’s the infamous quote where 99% insurance agents use: buy early cheaper premium ?

It increases as time pass regardless which age you buy. The policy is “upgraded “ from time to time. Even if you’re staying in old policy, the premium changes.

It all comes to affordability.
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nod.gif I think it's been misunderstood, the inception of the policy for a younger person starts at a lower premium compared to an older person who starts a policy at an older age. But I guess it's how those insurance agent word it to their clients.

The premium payable for an investment link policy is leveled over the years based on your term of coverage during inception of the policy but the insurance company can recommend you to do a top-up if your policy is unable to meet its original term of coverage (due to various reasons - i.e poor fund performance, repricing, etc.)
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post Jan 29 2021, 07:26 AM

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hi guys,

got an email from prudential that they are raising my monthly premium for up to 20% for my medicla card... this is ridiculous
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post Jan 29 2021, 08:59 AM

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Is normal medical insurance card cover for Covid 19 hospital fee or test cost?
If yes , would we expect a big increment of medical premium sooner?
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post Jan 29 2021, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Jan 29 2021, 08:59 AM)
Is normal medical insurance card cover for Covid 19 hospital fee or test cost?
If yes , would we expect a big increment of medical premium sooner?
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normally wont cover outpatient test cost.
if you admit to hospital then they will cover everything.
but again the terms and conditions is dictated by the insurance company and is subject to change.
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post Jan 29 2021, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(anhydrous @ Jan 29 2021, 07:26 AM)
hi guys,

got an email from prudential that they are raising my monthly premium for up to 20% for my medicla card... this is ridiculous
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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Jan 29 2021, 08:59 AM)
Is normal medical insurance card cover for Covid 19 hospital fee or test cost?
If yes , would we expect a big increment of medical premium sooner?
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Depends on who is your insurer, the industry is still mapping out on the guideline for Covid-19 claims.

Majority of the insurer are providing hospitalization benefits + death benefit on top of the usual benefits.
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post May 6 2021, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 21 2021, 06:17 PM)
well at least 2 yrs later than some.......time they catches me this time...ha-ha
just got a letter from AIA regarding my son's premium increase

from 603 to 754 effective 5 Apr 2021.
sort of like 25% increase

and the increase is not due to attained age scale ...
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Yes that always happens in most insurance policies, their t&c already mentioned they have the right to amend the policy price and benefits without your consent. My medical card clause said have to mutually agreed only can.
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post May 6 2021, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jan 29 2021, 01:20 PM)
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Depends on who is your insurer, the industry is still mapping out on the guideline for Covid-19 claims.

Majority of the insurer are providing hospitalization benefits + death benefit on top of the usual benefits.
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To answer the guy in the comic

I saved RM14,000 by doing my appendectomy at GH

Cost: RM0.00

Service was good and it was done a-s-a-p

Went evening, midnite potong

Back to topic

Sad that even with co-insurance my provider never fails to ask for more money from me every 3 years

Until one point of time, might just have to cut the tie and opt for Govt hospitals
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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ May 6 2021, 08:25 PM)
To answer the guy in the comic

I saved RM14,000 by doing my appendectomy at GH

Cost: RM0.00

Service was good and it was done a-s-a-p

Went evening, midnite potong

Back to topic

Sad that even with co-insurance my provider never fails to ask for more money from me every 3 years

Until one point of time, might just have to cut the tie and opt for Govt hospitals
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thumbsup.gif all the best bro.
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post May 7 2021, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(ELJ @ May 6 2021, 08:16 PM)
Yes that always happens in most insurance policies, their t&c already mentioned they have the right to amend the policy price and benefits without your consent. My medical card clause said have to mutually agreed only can.
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does their this T&C gives them the sole power to increase at what ever rate and at what ever frequency or interval they seem to liked?
(since it was a signed contract that any premature cancellation will definitely be subjected to losses,.....since the policyholders got no choice,...they can do whatever they wanted?)

your medical card,...if you don't agree,...can...but will it impact the sustain ability of the coverage??

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post May 7 2021, 12:00 PM

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My prudential medical ILP bought 5 years ago the reprice will happen this year from 132 per month to 150 per month about 13% increase seems reasonable right?
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ May 7 2021, 12:00 PM)
My prudential medical ILP bought 5 years ago the reprice will happen this year from 132 per month to 150 per month about 13% increase seems reasonable right?
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after this repricing...did they mention the sustainability period of the plan?
(will they increase another 13% 2 years later?)

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post May 7 2021, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 7 2021, 12:05 PM)
after this repricing...did they mention the sustainability period of the plan?
(will they increase another 13% 2 years later?)
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They haven’t send the official letter yet.just know if from a casual chat with my agent
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post May 7 2021, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ May 7 2021, 12:11 PM)
They haven’t send the official letter yet.just know if from a casual chat with my agent
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thumbup.gif noted...
btw,....can you casual chat with your agent about the things i asked earlier?
then tell us?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 7 2021, 11:57 AM)
does their this T&C gives them the sole power to increase at what ever rate and at what ever frequency or interval they seem to liked?
(since it was a signed contract that any premature cancellation will definitely be subjected to losses,.....since the policyholders got no choice,...they can do whatever they wanted?)

your medical card,...if you don't agree,...can...but will it impact the sustain ability of the coverage??
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Medical inflation keep increasing, if insurance company don't keep up with the inflation, how to pay for all the claims?

QUOTE(ryan18 @ May 7 2021, 12:00 PM)
My prudential medical ILP bought 5 years ago the reprice will happen this year from 132 per month to 150 per month about 13% increase seems reasonable right?
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Seems pretty normal to me adjusted to the inflation.

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