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chiangth
post Jun 5 2020, 02:42 PM

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Hi, newb here.

May I ask everyone here have different portfolios on different risk index? Or do you only invest in just 1 risk index portfolio?

And which risk index do you recommend putting in? I putting in 20% because it has lower corp bond compared to the other lower risk index.

Again, I am really a novice in investing so seeking a little advise from various sifus here.
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post Jun 5 2020, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Jun 5 2020, 02:59 PM)
Have two portfolio with risk index 36% and 22%. My 22% seems to be doing better than the 36% overall, both are invested at the same time around mid March right after the crash.

Maybe in the longer term I would see a more different numbers with the higher risk index portfolio, but my main is with 22%. The split ratio between my 36% and 22% is about 1:2.

Return wise are as follow as of today in USD: 36% (MWR/TWR) vs 22% (MWR/TWR)
36% risk(19.17%/21.28%) vs 22% risk (23.64%/22.43%)

The diff is marginal lol, but then again keep in mind these portfolios are barely 3 months old.

Can't give you any recommendation though, as the name of the "risk" ratio implies, ask yourself how much loss can you stomach before you go mad? Stick with that and sleep well at night wink.gif
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Ah yes, your kind of reply is what I am looking for. Outlook for each portfolio. I have just put in 1k in 20% just to learn how it works. I think I will deposit more into the 20% then only start considering opening another risk index portfolio.
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post Jun 5 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 5 2020, 02:56 PM)
I have 2 goals and I use it the way StashAway intends it to - create goals, dont tweak risk index, deposit weekly.

"And which risk index do you recommend putting in?" - You are paying stashaway fees to tell you that, stick to what the app tells you, don't naughty go 36% if you are actually asking this q.

Seriously StashAway already tells u everything, just follow.
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thanks for your reply. I am studying more about it. THank you.
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post Jul 6 2020, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 6 2020, 09:31 AM)
Same as with alot of other investment out there.
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I think you mean all. Got what investment is confirm profit 1? Even in FD it can't profit over inflation.

Everyone needs to know that nothing is sure-profit, ESPECIALLY in investment. If anyone told you it's sure-profit, I'm sure it's a scam.
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post Jul 6 2020, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 6 2020, 03:34 PM)
It seems like StashAway is hurting his bottom line. Those unit trusts he recommend like the CIMb-Principal macam got quite high fee also.

In short, StashAway is good, judging from his fear in the article.
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Coincidentally I have also watched a vid of him providing 2 cents about SA. IMO, I do not think he "fears" SA, but he just states some caveat to address some misconception many people have about SA. There are articles about SA being "revolutionary", "banks should be scared" this and that. He is addressing to those who think SA is a very good platform to invest, and you know about so many people who think, wow SA so good thus low or no risk at all - which is the misconception ppl have, in evidence the cases he quoted in the article. People just tend to over-glorify SA.

In his conclusion, "The A.I. however, won’t guarantee, in any form or way, investors, the capability to beat the market day after day after day."

Of course not! Even the "God" of investment, Warren Buffet, can't beat the market sometimes. LOL. His statement although a big no-brainer, but people still need to be told that. Esp Malaysians. So many Malaysians generally invest in stocks using emotions than head. That is very dangerous.

So, people just need to know, all investment carry risk, and NO way an investment can guarantee you anything. Study, do research.

Many people chose SA is because it offers fuss-free investment and we do not need to do our own research on which funds to invest in. Or when we have so little to invest with surely we can't use a real fund manager.

I do not think SA would hurt his bottom line much because people who can afford a fund manager might not even consider SA - like youngsters who just started working.

Robo-advisor is just like our fund managers, heck, SA people ARE fund managers in a way. Not too big of a difference.

In the end, he is right. There are so many "influencers" who just promote for the sake of money, sadly alot of people buy into their words. So I just take CF Lieu's as advice and caveat. His sharings are actually very good and at least he has experience hands-on, compared to those influencers promoting SA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSt37Lpiitc

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post Jul 7 2020, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jul 7 2020, 09:31 AM)
i remember the first day on optimization everyone was like fuk this SAMY lol. now when earn money all silent  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

china hate is deep lol. i dont care, as long as it makes money  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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remember the first day on optimization everyone was like fuk this SAMY lol. now when earn money all silent < damn real
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post Jul 7 2020, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(XweienX @ Jul 7 2020, 03:11 PM)
Guess all maturing FD need to put in Simple d.
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https://www.nst.com.my/business/2020/07/606...-negara-meeting

My reserve have just locked into Alliance FD for 2.1% for 1 year......... LOL.
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post Jul 7 2020, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 7 2020, 03:33 PM)
2.1% is even lower than projected Simple™ return.
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Projected return. My FD i dont intend to touch 1. that is my last resort emergency fund. So, put in bank for safe keeping.
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post Jul 10 2020, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 10 2020, 11:27 AM)
seems china tech is the only out performing fund
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It seems the market is highly volatile now. China's performance is ridiculous... seems a little dangerous.

I think alot (irrational) retail investors just dumping in money, regardless China, US or local.
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post Jul 17 2020, 02:30 PM

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Initiated transfer from Simple to portfolio Monday noon. Friday noon, today, officially transferred.

About 4 working days.
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post Jul 21 2020, 10:19 AM

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I moved my money from Simple to 36% porfolio. maybe portfolio can get higher returns.
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post Jul 21 2020, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 21 2020, 10:21 AM)
Higher risks doesn't always mean higher returns. It's up to each individual risk preference.
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yeah, i am aware of that. but....i am curious how much is Simple giving for the past few months.
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post Jul 21 2020, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(xianmeng @ Jul 21 2020, 10:58 AM)
Hey bro, Simple just launched in Malaysia in June. The only way you can find out a rough estimate of how it's performing is probably asking Singaporean users how it's been doing. If you're looking for fast returns (1-3 months), I don't think StashAway is the platform for you.
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Yes, performance since June. Just to have a benchmark. I know SA is not for fast returns.
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post Jul 29 2020, 01:55 PM

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Hi guys, I have 2 portfolios - 20% and 36

Both have China-Tech but why the return is different? If porfolio investing in the same index, shouldn't the return be the same %?

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I apologise if this is a noob question. Started barely 2 months.

Thank you very much.
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post Aug 6 2020, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 6 2020, 02:40 PM)
as a fresh grad your main priority should be investing in a medical card and basic life insurance. once you can commit to that then can consider investing some money into Simple or FD.
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This advice is correct. Many fresh grads I know often overlook the importance of insurance and medical cards. There are many insurance products which are invetment-linked. I would recommend getting a good insurance package or ILP, then only invest if there is still extra fund.
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post Aug 6 2020, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 6 2020, 02:45 PM)
All of Gen Z I met scolded me that personal insurance policy is totally waste of money and time.
They said got company insurance to cover what.
If touch wood anything does happen, you're not going to claim from your personal medical card pun.
I was like ...
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Yes, what you said is spot on. What these people do not realise is that corporate insurances have limited coverage. Even if they know that, almost all of them did not even bother finding out what's covered and what's not. When the need arises and they found out it's not covered or only partially-covered, they will complain why company did not cover this and that. I am in HR so I know very well situations like this happens often. In fact, just encountered 1 last week. LOL.
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post Aug 6 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Aug 6 2020, 03:01 PM)
100% agree, there are better vehicle for investment. Most ILP benefit the insurance agent@salesman more than a non ILP insurance that is why they are pushing it. Btw, i am almost 40 and i never took any insurance and totally depended on my company. The money not given to insurance company is invested instead.
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If that is the case then I sincerely hope you will not encounter any issues which are not covered.

The reason I recommend getting insurance first (ILP or not) is while it's not exactly a tool to generate money, it's more of a tool to save money when a problem arises. It happened to me a few times which I have to be hospitalised and at that time i was only wokring for a small company with no insurance coverage. I had just started work barely 2 years and I could not afford the hospitalisation and medical bill. Luckily my father had a few policies for me since young. I saved about 8k that 1 time.

Anyway, to each their own i guess.

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post Aug 6 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Aug 6 2020, 03:08 PM)
yup, i got 2 ILP when i was young, never able to recover my capital after few years regardless of what the agent said when getting me to sign the agreement, better put those money in investment.
medical card is a must IMO.
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I see. I stand corrected then. I will also need to review my policies.
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post Aug 18 2020, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(encikbuta @ Aug 18 2020, 08:03 AM)
good morning 36% portfolio holders!
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Hi. I'm sorry if anyone have asked this before. But where is your screenshot from? Where can I see something like that?
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post Sep 10 2020, 11:15 AM

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What to do now:
1. Delete app
2. Continue DCA
3. Close eyes

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