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post Mar 16 2021, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Mar 16 2021, 12:52 PM)
Ya, I am more worried if SA bankrupt, instead of different risk index.
It is a good suggestion to put all MP into SA, while I can manually pick UT in FSM.
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if you are worried about SA going bankrupt then you also don't know how their model works rclxub.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 16 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 16 2021, 02:12 PM)
hi, SA sifus or those who happened to have some idea....

if i wanted to invest based on the regions/sectors.....
like for example
Greater China 30%
Asia Pac region 20%
US 25%
Tech 10%
Gold 10%
etc. 5%

can i do that with SA?
SA risk index can interrelates to the regions by %?  hmm.gif
like for example
a RI 36% will be invested in what regions by %?
a RI 30% will be invested in what regions by %?
a RI 26% will be invested in what regions by %?
a RI 22% will be invested in what regions by %?
etc etc??

any idea where can see or compute that?
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can just go to their website to check the ETFs they invest in. Mostly USA & China now for equities. Got one Asia ex-Japan.
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post Mar 16 2021, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 16 2021, 02:33 PM)
yes, thanks for telling.
i understand that the ETF in each RI is preselected by SA...

can i see the by region basis based on the RI? (even if SA preselected them)
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just key in the ETFs in Yahoo Finance then you can see the individual shares that the ETF holds then you can roughly see the region
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post Mar 16 2021, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 16 2021, 05:08 PM)
Just for your reference, my route for DIY cost about ~RM25~RM35 max per entry, I'll likely able to deposit maximum twice a year given my current financials, so RM50-RM70 a year. Rebalancing cheap because I am going for a simple 2 fund portfolio, and I try to rebalance by depositing without selling. Time wise, research and setting up is maybe 2 days, then I suspect its likely less than half a day a year to keep it running?

That means at RM5000-7000 under Stashaway's management, I hit the breakeven point for annual cost. Any extra money I invest into SA from there onwards cost me more than DIY route. Hence why I really hope SA can bring fees down as soon as possible.

Correction welcomed if my maths are wrong!
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This is penny wise pound foolish. You should ask yourself whether your DIY can perform better than SAMY? If SAMY can give 10% returns at 1% cost but your own DIY only 5% return at 0.001% cost, which is better?

And when all went red few weeks back, will you resist the urge to sell everything? or just sleep peacefully at night knowing SAMY has a grip on the situation.


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post Mar 16 2021, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Mar 16 2021, 06:05 PM)
Let's not forget that SAMY's fees are annual, whereas brokerages can have zero annual fees.

We just came out of an incredible bull run in 2020, but if the market moves sideways, you might start to question the fees you pay sweat.gif
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That bull run came at a cost of my portfolio sitting at - 20% for two months and then bouncing back to +20%. Those who were afraid probably have already pulled out then and called SAMY a scam laugh.gif so yeah I think I have some faith in the professionals than my own Google analysis.
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post Mar 17 2021, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Mar 17 2021, 09:20 AM)
Hey guys for emergency fund you guys suggest to put in simple or 12% or lower risk profile? if there is no emergency i don't think gonna use it although currently just 3 months salary not much though
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i all in stashaway. biggrin.gif just get a credit card with high credit limit and medical card you should be good. nowadays unlikely need huge amount of cash suddenly unless got people kena kidnapped need ransom or relatives want to borrow money from you.
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post Mar 17 2021, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Mar 17 2021, 02:38 PM)
Funnily, that's how I'm rationalizing my cash holdings, besides the X months of expenses. Eg. what if one day, my mum or bro suddenly needs to borrow RM30k from me lol.
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all the more reason to put into SA. if they asking for some dumb reason still got chance to snap them out of it.

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post Mar 17 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Mar 17 2021, 01:22 PM)
Some of these not always accessible depending on circumstances (health, salary)

While it's true that it's 'unlikely' the reason it's called emergency is you really never know what might happen smile.gif
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if the person can't afford the most basic of medical cards then he/she has no business in stashaway.
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post Mar 18 2021, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Mar 18 2021, 12:13 PM)
Doesn't it worry you that in the event that SA goes under, you are at risk of losing access to your both your investment and emergency funds, until the liquidation process completes?

For that reason I prefer to keep my emergency funds in a bank.
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i have five or more credit cards with different limits so that should last me a month. and i also some small amount of funds in shares and FDs that can be liquidated immediately. the odds of SA disappearing over night and then getting hit by some emergency is very very low.



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post Mar 18 2021, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 18 2021, 12:28 PM)
just wondering, what is the estimated (rough idea) the time it needs to get the money back into one bank a/c if in the event (even very remotely), SA gets into receivership?
18 mths reasonable from freeze of SA bank a/c, legal transfer to receivers etc etc?
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5 working days probably? just need to trigger a mass selling order. convert back to RM. transfer back to trustee. trustee back to us.
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post Mar 18 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 18 2021, 12:40 PM)
wow, if it just takes 5 working days to get back the money into one bank a/c from the moment SA declared "i cabut liao" to having its a/c audited, legal due processes, getting approval of who will be taking over it, etc etc....
then 5 days is very  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif for nothing much will impact the consideration of parked emergency fund in there....
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Stashaway doesn't hold our money lah haiyooo. their company money and our money is not related.
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post Mar 19 2021, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(leanman @ Mar 19 2021, 11:06 AM)
Started SAMY account early this month, with minimum investment in it now. Yes i am from old school, i am still not convinced for depositing money into SAMY with just submitting my IC to start investing. Nothing b&w was signed with the provider (yes ol skool).

Just because they have a CMS from MY SC, what does that means? Will our money be safe, won't kena songlap? Am trying to convince myself more. Very new to this type of investment.

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old school enough to read the FAQ i hope https://www.stashaway.my/faq/115001181288-investments
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post Mar 28 2021, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(cr7jyej @ Mar 28 2021, 06:13 AM)
BFM doesn't work anymore
I wanna key in today as my old promo ends yesterday
Bad luck i guess,  lost 3 months just because I wanna squeeze a few more days from the new promo to prevent overlap with old one
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i still keyed in anyway eventhough i got promo until august. both overlapped laugh.gif
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post Mar 31 2021, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Nshade @ Mar 31 2021, 10:32 AM)
I try to use direct debit for monthly reoccurrence.
I noticed that the transaction failed. I asked the support, they told that i need to call Maybank or create another sub account for direct debit.

Did you guys just use jompay to deposit into SA or you use direct debit? How did you managed to get it done? Is it i need to create current account for direct debit to work?
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using jompay. much more convenient
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post Apr 1 2021, 09:33 PM

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Green green tonight. About time.
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post Apr 2 2021, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Kadaj @ Apr 2 2021, 08:59 AM)
I think for stocks you can choose specific companies you want to invest.

For UTs you can choose specific UT that invest in certain country, sector, whether equities or bonds and etc.

For SA, it create a portfolio that mix equities, bonds, commodities and etc as a package. Less flexible like I want to invest more in Japan and I don't want to invest in commodities and so on.
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then stashaway is not for you. go DIY your own portfolio.
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post Apr 2 2021, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Apr 2 2021, 06:29 PM)
I thought that for SA the investment decision is based on formula calculations plus human input. The robo part is only on assessing the risk profile of the investors. SA is successful because of investing mostly in US and some portion in china etfs.
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The robo part is only involved in the buying and selling of funds. The risk profile already pre set standard algorithm. SA was already successful before they introduced the China ETFs.
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post Apr 13 2021, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Apr 13 2021, 03:23 PM)
hi, recommended risk % for keeping 20 years?
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36%
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post Apr 15 2021, 12:21 PM

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Liquidity aside, if you put in FD for 1 year at 2.4% rate, the rates are fixed. eventhough half way in BNM announce interest rates cuts you will still get 2.4%.

For Simple, if got decisions that affect the rates it will change. Either up or down.
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post Apr 20 2021, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(yiyan @ Apr 20 2021, 10:15 AM)
This really clears out my doubt 💯 <3

I thought that switching the fund means depositing more cash into the fund at the right time when SA recommended them. Thus I've created 8%, 16%, 30% and 36% each deposited 200 into them as initial deposit.

And I realised the Simple withdraw is quite slow due to the money fund selling and buying again into each risk fund.
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lol.. try to read the FAQ first before investing laugh.gif

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