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post Mar 2 2019, 08:34 PM, updated 7y ago

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Recently I did a property transfer in Selangor, and the lawyer said that I have to pay the new Cukai Petak. She went to the state office and got the bill for me. Supposedly, this replaces Quit Rent (Cukai Tanah) that's usually collected by your management body.

Cukai tanah akan diganti cukai petak - Khalid Samad
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/459425

Cukai Petak search
https://ehasil.selangor.gov.my/app/search

Where to pay
http://ptg.selangor.gov.my/index.php/pages/view/77

But - I didn't receive any other cukai petak at all. When I check for another property, it said I was already overdue for 2018, and already I have to pay for 2019.

Did anyone get Cukai Petak bill? When is the due date?
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post Apr 18 2020, 03:02 PM

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first time i receive bil cukai petak, and i got tunggakan from 2018-2019

but i got pay every bil cukai tanah

since cukai petak replace cukai tanah, why they kenot settle my bil cukai petak by offsetting cukai tanah that i paid
ziling60
post Mar 1 2021, 08:53 PM

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Same issue

My situation is that I've got a strata title transfer ongoing in 2020, the ownership is still with the developer as I can see from the PTG Selangor online. However, when I check the bill for 2021, it said I have a tunggakan in 2020 and i was also charged interest on the tunggakan.

Isnt that the developer should pay for the cukai petak in 2020? Well I never received any bill on the cukai petak and the developer never informed me on the cukai as well ....

On top of that, I have already paid for quit rent charged by management office in 2020 though.

Any advice on this?
vinceleo
post Mar 2 2021, 01:07 PM

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Recall the payment and billing from MO and reclaim the same from them by showing the latest billing from PTG.

QUOTE(ziling60 @ Mar 1 2021, 08:53 PM)
Same issue

My situation is that I've got a strata title transfer ongoing in 2020, the ownership is still with the developer as I can see from the PTG Selangor online. However, when I check the bill for 2021, it said I have a tunggakan in 2020 and i was also charged interest on the tunggakan.

Isnt that the developer should pay for the cukai petak in 2020? Well I never received any bill on the cukai petak and the developer never informed me on the cukai as well ....

On top of that, I have already paid for quit rent charged by management office in 2020 though.

Any advice on this?
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ziling60
post Mar 3 2021, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Mar 2 2021, 01:07 PM)
Recall the payment and billing from MO and reclaim the same from them by showing the latest billing from PTG.
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Thanks.

Acc to MO, PTG Selangor should be issuing the bill to all owners directly and they have no access to that. I think the PTG Selangor did not issue the bill last year (could be due to MCO etc). Because all of other owners did not receive the bill as well. Shouldnt PTG Selangor be waiving the interest for late payment charges? I found out that other owners tried to fight with PTG but don think they were successful.... Well it's not our problem if we never receive the bill ...
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post Mar 3 2021, 09:01 AM

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If indeed PTG did not issue the bill then what MO is collecting and paying for? Asking for waiver for sure will be hard but if can gather more residents and better still local assemblyman

QUOTE(ziling60 @ Mar 3 2021, 12:58 AM)
Thanks.

Acc to MO, PTG Selangor should be issuing the bill to all owners directly and they have no access to that. I think the PTG Selangor did not issue the bill last year (could be due to MCO etc). Because all of other owners did not receive the bill as well. Shouldnt PTG Selangor be waiving the interest for late payment charges? I found out that other owners tried to fight with PTG but don think they were successful.... Well it's not our problem if we never receive the bill ...
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post Mar 3 2021, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Mar 3 2021, 09:01 AM)
If indeed PTG did not issue the bill then what MO is collecting and paying for? Asking for waiver for sure will be hard but if can gather more residents and better still local assemblyman
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MO has refunded me the quit rent i paid directly to them for 2020, so thats fine for now.

But on the other hand, i was charged parcel rent by land office, of which i was not made aware of nor i have received the bill. According to the MO, land office used to issue the quit rent to them directly and they charged us as part of management fee bill. But in 2020 strate title was issued and hence parcel rent was charged by land office directly to the owners of unit, eliminating quit rent charged to the MO. So i should have received the bill. But the fact is i never did nor i was made aware of this at all. It was only recently i found out that i have outstanding payment from last year, and a late payment interest charges as well. How could land office be charging late payment interest when i hav never received any bill? Apparently other unit owners tried to argue with the land office on this but were not successful.
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post Mar 3 2021, 03:01 PM

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If others have attempted and failed to obtain the waiver guess life have to move on

QUOTE(ziling60 @ Mar 3 2021, 02:44 PM)
MO has refunded me the quit rent i paid directly to them for 2020, so thats fine for now.

But on the other hand, i was charged parcel rent by land office, of which i was not made aware of nor i have received the bill. According to the MO, land office used to issue the quit rent to them directly and they charged us as part of management fee bill. But in 2020 strate title was issued and hence parcel rent was charged by land office directly to the owners of unit, eliminating quit rent charged to the MO. So i should have received the bill. But the fact is i never did nor i was made aware of this at all. It was only recently i found out that i have outstanding payment from last year, and a late payment interest charges as well. How could land office be charging late payment interest when i hav never received any bill? Apparently other unit owners tried to argue with the land office on this but were not successful.
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post Mar 3 2021, 09:47 PM

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I have an ongoing strata title transfer and as part of the procedure, my law firm asks me to search for my parcel in the PTG website and pay there. However I told him that the Management Office already charged me quit rent for 2021 and he told me to get my refund from MO because strata title is already issued and I should pay my parcel rent instead.

So I went to the MO requesting clarification on the quit rent that I paid to them, and they said the parcel rent is for my unit, and the quit rent they collected is for the common area. What bullshit is this?

I checked with the land office and they said I don't have to pay any quit rent on the master title. So why did the MO gets a quit rent bill on the master title from PTG in the first place?
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post Mar 6 2021, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Mar 3 2021, 09:47 PM)
I have an ongoing strata title transfer and as part of the procedure, my law firm asks me to search for my parcel in the PTG website and pay there. However I told him that the Management Office already charged me quit rent for 2021 and he told me to get my refund from MO because strata title is already issued and I should pay my parcel rent instead.

So I went to the MO requesting clarification on the quit rent that I paid to them, and they said the parcel rent is for my unit, and the quit rent they collected is for the common area. What bullshit is this?

I checked with the land office and they said I don't have to pay any quit rent on the master title. So why did the MO gets a quit rent bill on the master title from PTG in the first place?
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you dont have to. I am in the same process as u, and my MO refunded me the quit rent. Technically the land office would not charge the MO quit rent anymore since they're collecting parcel rent from us directly. You should go back to the MO and told them that land office told u that you shouldnt be paying quit rent and ask them for refund.

Did u have any late payment interest charged by the land office on ur parcel rent btw? BEcause mine has it. Apparently the land office will bill the deeloper the parcel rent instead of us, and the developer never forward the information to us, causign the late payment charges...
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post Mar 6 2021, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(bristlebb @ Apr 18 2020, 03:02 PM)
first time i receive bil cukai petak, and i got tunggakan from 2018-2019

but i got pay every bil cukai tanah

since cukai petak replace cukai tanah, why they kenot settle my bil cukai petak by offsetting cukai tanah that i paid
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Mind if i ask, did u pay the late charges for ur tunggakan yourself, or did u dispute it with the developer/JMB?
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post Mar 7 2021, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(ziling60 @ Mar 6 2021, 11:33 PM)
Mind if i ask, did u pay the late charges for ur tunggakan yourself, or did u dispute it with the developer/JMB?
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I didn't have late charges on my parcel rent because the title is issued this year, so there was no tunggakkan from last year.

I did dispute the duplicate quit rent for 2021 that the MO charged me (which I paid a couple of months ago). They said they'd check with the land office. It's 50 bucks and I spent 2 days disputing it and maybe I'll just let it go cos it's not worth my time chasing that 50 bucks back.
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post Mar 7 2021, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Mar 7 2021, 12:19 AM)
I didn't have late charges on my parcel rent because the title is issued this year, so there was no tunggakkan from last year.

I did dispute the duplicate quit rent for 2021 that the MO charged me (which I paid a couple of months ago). They said they'd check with the land office. It's 50 bucks and I spent 2 days disputing it and maybe I'll just let it go cos it's not worth my time chasing that 50 bucks back.
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Huh? I thought u wrote there u have tunggakan 2018-2019? Was that for a different thing?
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post Mar 8 2021, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(vinceleo @ Mar 3 2021, 03:01 PM)
If others have attempted and failed to obtain the waiver guess life have to move on
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Yes i get your point on that life has to move on and i appreciate where you're coming from. If I look from another perspectives, sometimes it's a matter of principles. Apparently land office issued the billing to the developer, and the developer has the obligation to forward the bill or inform all owners abt the parcel rent, for which they have failed to do so and yet pushing the responsibility away. I guess because there isnt anyone raising this issue in the past or presently, it has always been neglected and not taken care of seriously. It is an extremely bad conduct by the developer and should be called out and be held accountable. unfortunately there isnt a regulatory or authority in Malaysia will hold them accountable by law nor take action against them. And of course often buyers will just let it go because the effort or the legal fee might not worth it. I guess it's all coming down to the accountability and integrity issue of the developer. Speaking to a few people incl. lawyers, i note that it's often overlooked by the people as the awareness of the public on their rights and obligations isnt very strong here. My voice alone is certainly not strong, i believe i am not the only one with such encounter and voiced it out but at the same time with everyone chose to ignore this issue and move on with life, we will never see improvement in both the local authority and developer and it's going to happen again and again in future and those owners (especially first time home buyers) with no knowledge abt this will keep absorbing the penalty charged.

i guess what i am trying to express is that a small issue might be snowballed into a bigger one in future if everybody chose to neglect it. i hope my post here will be able to create some sort of awareness to those reading it, and educate you guys in a way that could be beneficial in future.

This post has been edited by ziling60: Mar 8 2021, 04:10 PM

 

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