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post Jan 10 2023, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Jan 10 2023, 12:34 PM)
ok thanks. that's interesting. i had assumed in below scenarios, each person has 60k to contribute to whichever account he's allowed to contribute to (self, spouse, children, parents):

Scenario 1:
- I have 60k, my son has 60k
- i contribute 60k to my EPF account
- my son contribute 60k to his EPF account
- total contribution 120k, both me and son used up 60k quota

Scenario 2:
- I have 60k, my son has 60k
- i contribute 60k to my EPF account
- my son contribute 60k to my EPF account
- total contribution 120k, both me and son used up 60k quota

if topper and toppee share same quota due to contribution to others, then:

Scenario 3:
- I have 60k, my son has 60k
- my son contribute 60k to my EPF account
- total contribution 60k, both me and son used up 60k quota 

is the last scenario what you meant? or do you mean the below?

Scenario 4:
- I have 60k, my son has 60k
- my son contribute 60k to my EPF account
- total voluntary contribution to my account maxxed out at 60k, i cannot self-contribute further

with your explanation, now my understanding is that it's based on 60k cap allowed into each individual's account per year then, which also makes sense.
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The limit is 60K per annum, regardless of the source of funds.

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post Jan 15 2023, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 15 2023, 04:36 PM)
Hmm..I plan to do on 25th after I came back from Singapork. Still on time.for Jan 2023??
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plenty of time to earn the 1 day dividend for Jan 2023. no worries.
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post Jan 24 2023, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(N9484640 @ Jan 24 2023, 10:09 AM)
self contributed on the 20th, today 24th still nothing showing. maybe due to the CNY holidays.
I am using the old method via Maybank (not using the EPF app)
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a good gauge is to use the standard idea of banking biz day... as all of it involves processes of money transactions via the formal banking system.

settlement usually happens in T+1 biz days, subject to small things that I no longer remember... like cutoff time, etc. and then I have the suspicion that it can take EPF like up to 1 more day to reflect it in their system.

since you mentioned you contributed on Friday, it should appear either on Wed or Thurs.

>>> beginning of the year is exceptional... they may not display anything on their website until after EPF announce div. don't know if this has changed.
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post Jan 31 2023, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Jan 31 2023, 08:56 AM)
Question: Can we self-adjust employee contributions from 11% to say 20% or 30% while the employer retains 13% (force saving for the employee)?
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Yes you can. Again it is subject to whether your HR wants to help you (which they should, but you know it is.... ) and subject to your net salary remaining in the positive.

proof: basically I've done it previously when still working


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post Jan 31 2023, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jan 31 2023, 04:57 PM)
Can't you do it yourself via self contribution using some bank website?
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self contribution has to follow the 60K rm limit per year.

contribution via salary deduction is limited by your salary technically.

of course can use both methods together to speed things up... especially useful if one is already close to 1 million...
(the important part is the faster one gets to 1 million, the faster the liquidity option becomes available to the person)

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Jan 31 2023, 05:11 PM
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post Feb 25 2023, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 25 2023, 02:06 PM)
Hmm...
Don't think it's work like this...

Something is wrong somewhere...
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from what I understand, certain things are "cast" in stone into the EPF act, and any changes to those "stones" require Parliamentary approval.

So whatever proposed in the budget 2023 will need to pass parliament first.

This is the same reason why last year's 2023 contained the 100K limit but all talk for fun only after PM9 dissolved the parliament.
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post Feb 25 2023, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Feb 25 2023, 01:08 PM)
Thanks bro but pushing to 50 so better start saving now. Enough lah enjoy enjoy enjoy (ref to myself lol). Its time to sakit now for a better future
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remember to start spending your retirement funds if you already planned long ago and executed your retirement plans properly....

for once, I personally don't care about the 60K rm or 100K rm limit beyond the fact that this allows me to park a bit more of my spare cash in EPF to earn higher "FD-like" rates.

It is time for me to start drawing down my EPF dividends to spend already....
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post Mar 11 2023, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 11 2023, 06:18 PM)
i-Saraan Registration

https://online.kwsp.gov.my/isaraanReg/?lang=ms

if anyone interested

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Would you know if anyone can qualify for i-saraan RM 250 incentive regardless of their account balance? and must be self-employed?
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post Mar 11 2023, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 11 2023, 06:41 PM)
yes. self employed

make sure no employers  / company linked to your account tongue.gif
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what if completely not working? ie not even self-employed....

i wonder how they can verify or check.... and if it is worth if for me to try to apply for the rm 250.
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post Mar 11 2023, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 11 2023, 08:17 PM)
LHDN records 😁

SSM records 😁

Heck banks accounts 😁

For qualify the rm250
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ok, maybe it is not worth the headache.... sad.gif

let me go pinch money elsewhere...
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post Mar 11 2023, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Mar 11 2023, 08:32 PM)
Free money not easy to get if they check everything

That's why...

Cash is King

No paper trail....

Don't bank ins, No EPF, No LHDN 😁
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Cash in EPF is King for now.... cash in banks or fake stable coins also need to worry with recent insolvency of US banks.... shocking.gif


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post Mar 12 2023, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Mar 12 2023, 10:27 PM)
Hi,

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/overview#InvestmentDividends

Based on the EPF Website:

"Whereas your monthly contributions will earn dividends based on:

A day in the month of said contribution
Said month's contribution will earn dividends based on the daily calculation starting the following month until the end of December of that year"

Can someone confirm that money deposited say in the middle of the month would only stat earning interests on the 1st of the following month?

Therefore if I plan to deposit 60k for self contribution last week in March , the 60k should be earning interests at the 1st of April. Is my assumption correct?

Thank you.
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Yes, I can confirm that regardless of which day of the month you deposit your fund, that fund will only earn 1 day worth of dividend for that month.
(if you put 60K rm on 15 March, it will start earning accrual dividend from 31 March)
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post Mar 26 2023, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Mar 26 2023, 02:18 PM)
Maybe can ask that forex trading haram guy  😆
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why bother? unless one is a muslim....


already too many headaches in life, why still want to limit one's investment potential? of course this is assuming one is not a muslim or not a religious person. It is the individual person's preference.
(hence kinda weird EPF putting up such provocative ad)
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post Mar 27 2023, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Mar 27 2023, 11:39 AM)
What's the max amount can be requested for online withdrawal?
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Seriously EPF can withdraw online ?
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Yes, can withdraw online from kwsp official website.
Unable to find out how to withdraw from kwsp app, but small matter this part

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post Mar 27 2023, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(doremon @ Mar 27 2023, 11:49 AM)
This I need to know how lol (General knowledge)  bruce.gif
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I cannot remember exactly what I did (done like 7 or 8 years ago). But can remember the general steps.

bring along your IC and bank statement (account must just be under your name, no joint accounts) to your fav EPF Office.
Last time needed to fill a form to request access, but I guess the officer there will guide you the next steps to have online account and activate.

after this initial setup, you can just login via your fav browser and withdraw away. max per withdrawal online is 30K rm (and technically per day also). money will arrive the next biz day.
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post Apr 3 2023, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 3 2023, 09:21 PM)
Dividend is paid and calculated up to age of 75 actually.
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That was the old rule....

EPF has changed it... u will continue to earn div past 75 (until 100 years old).
but cannot contribute after 75 y.o I believe.
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post Apr 4 2023, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(yamatotrading @ Apr 3 2023, 11:13 PM)
If have 1m in EPF account... i will use it like a saving account.
Any balance above 1m, you can withdraw anytime subject to minimum RM50k.
now can self contribute up to 100k a year, it will be quite convenient.
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There is no minimum to withdraw if balance can be maintained above 1 million.
Having said that, I have never tried withdrawing anything below 1K rm.

So anyone very free, can go try withdraw 10ringgit and see how.... biggrin.gif
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post Apr 12 2023, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Apr 12 2023, 05:03 PM)
obviously he edi pass 1 mil mark......

so EPF is ATM.......if can str8 bank in to EPF account i think he'll opt in lol
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That's the point... no need to increase anymore the self contribution limit.... already can do so via salary deduction.
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post Apr 12 2023, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 12 2023, 05:20 PM)
imho... best way epf to retain $$$... at 55/>1mil give ppl 'epf debit' card... zero fee withdrawal at any atm... 'casa' @ >5% where can get... hahaha
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Best not to have such facility.
later got fraud cases and suddenly your epf account missing one 0.

By then, too old to even recover anymore.
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post Apr 12 2023, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 12 2023, 05:47 PM)
yeah...

but imho biggest risk is scam after full withdrawal and sweet talk by bank into shitty investments...
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Cannot disagree, but don't know which scam is scarier. Then again, doesn't matter which, cos the risk is kena any of them.

Range accrual structured investment anymore? sad.gif

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