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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Everton 4 Man Utd 0, Adios UCL

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post Apr 22 2019, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Apr 22 2019, 11:35 AM)
I hate to say this but Pogba should stay. What United needs  3 solid defenders ( 2 centre back and 1 left/right back),1 DM and 1 striker

Once the team is solid Pogba will be master in his class

Yes Pogba is not Ronaldo or Messi that can change the game but with solid team he can perform really well

And Most important De Gea MUST STAY
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United should get rid of Pogba asap.. He doesn't play for the club, only for himself

As for DDG, having him is a bonus, but it doesn't help to have world class keeper if defenders all lembik. Other teams had worst keeper than us but they did not concede so much goals. The key is still having good defenders around to balance the keeper's shortcoming. Some more, whenever the contract situation comes around, his performance being affected.
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post Apr 22 2019, 12:06 PM

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we are not the same since the injury to Herrera, he's the heart and soul of this team
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post Apr 22 2019, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 22 2019, 11:52 AM)
Compare the lineup vs PSG in Paris with the lineup vs Everton last night.
Who is not in the PSG game but was in last night game?
Can get an idea who is the toxic poison.  brows.gif
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hahaha. good analysis. can send report to ogs
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post Apr 22 2019, 12:42 PM

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after win in Paris,the team just collapsed.

at this form,OGS will renew SAF 6-1 home defeat to City in 2011.

maybe OGS should play the kids against City and just focus on Chelsea games next sunday
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post Apr 22 2019, 01:18 PM

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dropping some name next is a must after humiliating defeat to everton

time to see if Ole got the balls to do it


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post Apr 22 2019, 01:50 PM

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'We didn't have leaders on the pitch' - Matic takes blame for Everton drubbing

"The biggest problem was that we didn't have leaders on the pitch," Matic, 30, told Stadium Astro.

"In this case me, because I'm one of the most experienced guys in the team so if we don't win that battle in the middle, for our team it is difficult to play.

"If someone is to be blamed for this game it is me.

"I think that I'm most responsible because I'm one of the most experienced guys in the changing room."
Well said, no leader, lack of leadership, how to win
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post Apr 22 2019, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(ljf123 @ Apr 22 2019, 01:50 PM)
Well said, no leader, lack of leadership, how to win
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we have one spanish leader... or used to have sweat.gif
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post Apr 22 2019, 02:27 PM

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Not reaching top 4 could be better for long term. Next season should really be rebuilding. Clear out of a lot of under performing players should start. The wage structure should be balanced and should not buy high profile players. High profile players cause disturbance to the wage structure. Players who lacked commitment should be shipped out. Next season should only concentrate on premiership and top 4. Forget about Europe for at least 2 or 3 season until a more stable team is established.

That is why the defeat to Everton could be blessing in disguise. Hopefully it will cause the owners to realise that most of the players they have today are just not good enough.


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post Apr 22 2019, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 22 2019, 02:08 PM)
we have one spanish leader... or used to have  sweat.gif
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Pogba? His Spanish is improving everyday.
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post Apr 22 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(bansai @ Apr 22 2019, 02:42 PM)
Pogba? His Spanish is improving everyday.
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nah.. he can speak french with the boss..
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post Apr 22 2019, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Apr 22 2019, 02:27 PM)
Not reaching top 4 could be better for long term. Next season should really be rebuilding. Clear out of a lot of under performing players should start. The wage structure should be balanced and should not buy high profile players. High profile players cause disturbance to the wage structure. Players who lacked commitment should be shipped out. Next season should only concentrate on premiership and top 4. Forget about Europe for at least 2 or 3 season until a more stable team is established.

That is why the defeat to Everton could be blessing in disguise. Hopefully it will cause the owners to realise that most of the players they have today are just not good enough.
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tbh we have a lot of this kind of defeats/goreng since forever. owners did nothing. haha
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post Apr 22 2019, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Apr 22 2019, 02:27 PM)
That is why the defeat to Everton could be blessing in disguise. Hopefully it will cause the owners to realise that most of the players they have today are just not good enough.
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surely hope so.. or maybe the owners wont do much to back Ole, on the business side United are doing significantly well than others.. maybe for them as long as the club making them money then no need to invest much on the squad.. the fans not gonna runaway, tickets will be sold out as usual, merch sales still strong, and many big organizations would love to sign sponsorship contract.. maybe im too pessimistic
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Apr 22 2019, 02:54 PM)
surely hope so.. or maybe the owners wont do much to back Ole, on the business side United are doing significantly well than others.. maybe for them as long as the club making them money then no need to invest much on the squad.. the fans not gonna runaway, tickets will be sold out as usual, merch sales still strong, and many big organizations would love to sign sponsorship contract.. maybe im too pessimistic
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Sponsorship will come only if the club has lots of fans even if some of the fans are lalang. If we keep seeing results like this, fans will be turned off and support will drop. The appeal of the club is still Fergie era and a lot of fans still stick with the club due to that era. However, this will be lost in another few years and the club will become like Liverpool in the past. Liverpool is the classic example of what the club should not become but Liverpool seems to learnt their lesson and they will taste success. We might laugh at lalang fans but the reality is a club success is measured by the number of people supporting them regardless of whether they are hardcore or non-hardcore.
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post Apr 22 2019, 03:31 PM

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nah, woodward always in the stadium to watch. he wants win as much as we do. his face care more than the players. just that most of the hiring/sacking always wrong lol.

after alexis break the wage structure, everything is about new contract. win nothing and still want pay big. last time is rooney. now is dunno who.
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time for some oil tycoon to take over from glazer brows.gif
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post Apr 22 2019, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 22 2019, 02:49 PM)
tbh we have  a lot of this kind of defeats/goreng since forever. owners did nothing. haha
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I feel that we really need a fresh start, fresh atmosphere with alot of new young players. The only problem is that how to get rid 80% of the players.
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Apr 22 2019, 03:48 PM)
I feel that we really need a fresh start, fresh atmosphere with alot of new young players. The only problem is that how to get rid 80% of the players.
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need someone with a big sweep.. sweep most of them out.. cant believe we still have/rely on young jones smalling after so many years. ranting.gif
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Apr 22 2019, 03:50 PM)
need someone with a big sweep.. sweep most of them out.. cant believe we still have/rely on young jones smalling after so many years.  ranting.gif
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Ya...thats the problem. Even fking Smalling signed a new contract last year. Really WTF moment
We need fast pace determined players. Young players often have these traits but lacking of experience, but our current players also play like kids nowadays laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2019, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Apr 22 2019, 11:28 AM)
Rashford should get 1 more season and thats it. At lesst from a goal return perspective its improved. Others can't even make the same claims.

It may seem emotional to react after losing 4-0 but the last 7 games have been downhill with no hand brakes
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Our heartbeat aka herrera was missing in those games. When OGS had a good run, herrera was bossing midfield. Hope he stays..
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 22 2019, 04:04 PM)
Our heartbeat aka herrera was missing in those games. When OGS had a good run, herrera was bossing midfield. Hope he stays..
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herrera did the dirty job for pogba. his absence is really missed. matic next season prolly cant start so much already.

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