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post Feb 24 2019, 06:17 PM, updated 7y ago

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Hi, all. I will finish my bachelor in civil engineering this year. Just curious, what is the range of salary for fresh civil engineer ? I prefer to work at office ? I heard that those who grad with 1st class honour will get better starting salary, am i right ? Can engineer tell your salary here?
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Feb 24 2019, 06:28 PM)
Bachelor?

Rm2k to rm2.5k?

Civil engineering should be base on site.
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only up to 2.5k , that is too low doh.gif I am expecting at least a rm2.5k
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 24 2019, 06:56 PM)
Different company different range...
But basically its from 2k till 3.2k 🙏
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site engineer ? or consultant engineer ?
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 24 2019, 07:15 PM)
strawberry generation don't know what work is.....

If you're based in office, you would be working consultant job, designing and rushing drawings until late night just to beat deadlines.

site engineers, you basically have the same shitty hours, but get to watch every go up in front of your eyes.

Either way, project delivery>>>>>>> "work-life balance"
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I know the site working condition , but i couldnt stand it. During the intern period, I was based at site. It's great to see that everything grow in front of eyes. But, the pay of consultant engineer really lower ah ?
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:25 PM

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Is there any site which i can check the salary range of fresh grad ?
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Feb 24 2019, 07:30 PM)
jobstreet....

I can safely tell you, most of my friends are earning the higher range of 2.5k-3k when working as engineer.

It's just whether you will like the type of work and hours involved.
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When i worked at site last time, there was a lot of OT. Consultant also the same ?
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post Feb 24 2019, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(mdnOor @ Feb 24 2019, 07:50 PM)
Hi,

Civil engineers works at site pays much hire than working in the office. My company pays for fresh graduate RM3k. If working everyday in site +RM300 allowance. No OT though.
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same with my previous company , no OT claim working at site
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post Feb 25 2019, 10:37 PM

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I plan to work in consultant firm , which type of company should I go to ? Those big company or shall i start with small firm first ? Since I have 0 experience, I wish to learn as much as I can in the short time
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post Feb 26 2019, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Feb 25 2019, 11:28 PM)
I wouldn't hire you if you say that.
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why ? haha hmm.gif shakehead.gif Just asking opinion, which type of company should I join first ? rclxub.gif I just want to learn and gain some useful experience first
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post Feb 26 2019, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ Feb 26 2019, 11:40 AM)
I have switched from being on site in O&G, construction field, design in O&G, manufacturing, and now in IT. My opinion to you is to test the water, irrelevant to what others say and as you progress, you will know what you want in your career. Just focus on getting your first job and progress from there. If you are lucky, you will get into a superb M&C paying RM3.5k a month, if you are joining Ah Seng Construction Sdn Bhd, you may end up with a RM2.5k a month. So it all depends.
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I plan to learn things and gain new experiences... Should I join small firm first so that I can learn better? My uncle advised me to join those big company as I have good cgpa now... But really not sure now...
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post Feb 26 2019, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Feb 26 2019, 10:09 AM)
working at sites better la bro, can see lot of different things that you will not see in your life...better income too....i mean normally site ppl got different kind of side incomes.
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I have to say that I am not those outgoing type of people, I think consultant job suits me better
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post Feb 26 2019, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(HAoCHa @ Feb 26 2019, 08:28 AM)
I guess because it sounds like you are going to leave after you had learn something.
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Yea, sure for now. . I plan to jump after few years of experiences.... But I really what's goin to happen in the future....
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post Feb 26 2019, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(Harry_Bobinski @ Feb 26 2019, 01:47 PM)
Depends on your personality. If you are driven and you will not mind working 14 hours a day doing a 4 man job, then join a small firm first. If you are more towards work life balance and want benefits and not overwork, then join a big one. But do remember, big firms look better in resume.
Not outgoing? How are you going to be a consultant? How are you going to consult if you are not outgoing?
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Joining small firm will learn more? Is it true?
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post Feb 26 2019, 08:22 PM

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Normally , how long would i take for the HR for the candidate to respond for the job reply ? Actually i applied for many company during intern and I gt several offer.... I feel sorry to decline the offer last time. Do i need to make up my mind now whether joining big company or small company? Or i can apply for many jobs at the same time ? Maybe i gt several job offer and choose small firm to start my career , But i maybe joining those big company next time...I dont want the HR to ''blacklist'' me ...
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post Feb 27 2019, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(badguy93 @ Feb 27 2019, 03:09 PM)
No company will hire you if you ever say this...
Big company is normally for people who seek for laid back environment, especially for fresh graduate. Because the projects or any being assigned is split as according the skill set. You would most probably end up become a support type engineer until you managed to be independent without the need or least of supervision. There is no shortcut.

Small company is preferred their candidate to be 'Can Do' type. Because they are well independent and able to manage multiple projects by themselves. A well manage time management can survive this, otherwise you will end up being a joker within the company.
Nope, you cannot be consultant if you are not those outgoing type of people. And, a consultant required experience up to 3-5 years or your learning experience that is consider on par with any seniors. Consultant required high knowledge of such technologies being used, understanding the flows that is used in the minimal provided time frame and provide support for your clients.
There is no shortcuts. Don't think of how you gonna be like in your future, it's not gonna happen if you don't improve at present. I not trying to be harsh but by experienced. Any certificates you have are all just for decoration despite Degree holder, Master holder etc, they are nothing, because a true employer will only judge as per your learning experience and not certificate or working experience.

As mentioned, assume the candidate A with 5 years of "Working experience" vs the candidate B with 2 years of "Learning experience". I bet you can't see what are the differences between them. You can laid back, slack or anything that counts as "Working experience", and the quality product that delivered is low is still count as "working experience". A learning experience that is to judge a candidate that has the value to deliver quality of products within the shortest time frame possible, by bring a good profit revenue to the employer despite the candidate with lower duration experience.

The example above is how you should be like in future. For now, i would advise you, regardless any amount your receive whether or not high or low. You will need to have a positive thinking mindset, a fresh graduate is like a blank paper, any learning is your experiences, so start from there. Once you have the skill set that you think that you are good to go, that is where you can seek what you actually want in future.
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Hi, thanks for ur advice thumbup.gif notworthy.gif ....Back to the point, which type of company can enable me to learn better ? It seems that if i work in a big company , i have limited things to learn since you said that i will be assigned to certain part of project only, am i right ?
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post Feb 27 2019, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(blitzbullet @ Feb 26 2019, 08:05 AM)
https://www.kellyservices.com.my/employment...nd-salary-guide

Might give some guide on salary scale. Anyway, dont be too choosy as the job market is hard these days. If you can land anything close to rm3k, take it. Learn for few years in whatever company, and you will gain more leverage for your next career. Just make sure you dont run away from engineering as it might be hard to come back to it in future.
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it looks like after yew years of experience, the salary is actually quite promising as I think, but i couldnt find the salary for fresh grad btw.
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post Feb 28 2019, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(badguy93 @ Feb 28 2019, 01:48 AM)
How you want to learn complex when you cannot understand ABC? You got no knowledge now, so you cannot choose. And doesn't mean the company wants you even if you want the company.  brows.gif

You can try, no harm to try. Limited or not, they are still experience.
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I can choose the type of company that i want to start my career first, right ? I just want to know that which type of company can enable me to learn more.... I actually gt several offer during my internship, and I feel sorry to turn down the offer one by one... Maybe i shall change my 'strategy' now, applying the type of company that i am interested. Not like last time applying many company at the same time .... nod.gif
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post Feb 28 2019, 08:59 PM

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When should i start to apply for jobs ? I am about to finish my study in July this year. Is it too early to apply now ?
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post Mar 1 2019, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(leon898 @ Mar 1 2019, 08:58 AM)
I start searching after my unofficial result came out. if you are really bright student, the offer come even before u finish your final
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unofficial result of last sem? Is it too late ?
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post Mar 1 2019, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(badguy93 @ Mar 1 2019, 10:08 AM)
Hmm, You can choose them as you see fit. I will give you some tips

1. Big company - Name is known and easy to get offer after you think that is enough for you to improve where you are lacking. You can get what you want to learn from here, step by step. Even though you might become a support or assistant before you are fully becoming a independent, this is a good place for you to grow your career.

2. Small Company - Name is not known unless well known branches. This place is a fast pace working, and the boss of the company is expected you have a solid skill contribute to the company, meaning they expect you to independent with the most least supervision. You will need to act and make decision without someone willing to babysit you all the time.

Big company helps you in term of learning curve, you can take your sweet time in this company to learn something. Of course there are a time that you need to rush for deadline project.

Small company helps you to sharpen your skill by act independently. Train your time management and also stress level, so that you wouldn't be surprise once you hop to another company work while under pressure.

Aside, you can apply as many company at the same time, no harm or no need feel sorry for them. They know you nothing, they treat you nobody, and you are nobody for them too. Of course, you can apply more than 50 applications at the same time, and choose the most suitable out from them. One after another interview, you gain experience of what the company goals and objectives. You can decide from there.

If you apply only 1 or 2 while you are feeling sorry for them, you ain't gonna get a job very soon. Because the time you are waiting for their evaluate during your interview is wasting time. And you do not know what is the result in the end of the day.

Normally, I would take 1 week waiting, after that you can treat the result as failure if still no answer given from the particular employer. You can follow up to them to ask for updates too.
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Big company ? I am afraid there is less chance of getting promoted ? Some ppl told that i should work and learn in small company first, then only jump to big company with few years of experiences, is it true ? rclxub.gif

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