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TSpw8799
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Mar 1 2019, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Beanster @ Mar 1 2019, 02:00 PM) I would say 1-2 month before you complete your study/getting official result. It will take about 2 weeks in average to get an interview if your cv makes the cut and you pass the initial screening (phone interview, online assessment,etc). The selection process differs from one company to another so i advise you to spend some time research about the job scope and company that you want to apply for. Program like the management trainee/associate or any sort of graduate program from large company usually involves rigorous process with multiple stages so it could take up to more than a month to two. Do take note of the job posting as well because some company will state if the job would require you to commence at certain month. You don't want to waste your time or theirs in interview if they're urgent in filling up a particular vacancy but you haven't made yourself available to work due to study. ok, then. I shall wait for another 2 months before start sending out my job application
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TSpw8799
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Mar 1 2019, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Mar 1 2019, 02:28 PM) if your results is excellent, you can try. I prefer to have proven documents with me prior iv. I wish to apply before the final exam, then, when should i start applying ? is 3 / 4 months before completion of study considered too early ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 1 2019, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Mar 1 2019, 04:16 PM) most of the friend i know under civil engineering ended up becoming IT programmer or other IT related job reason? environment issue pollution issue allergic issue work life issue time management issue stress issue money issue if you have the passion and knowing your direction and what you wanna achieve....then go ahead and endures it if you just go out there holding a paper and hope for the best...good luck, you might end up crying everyday looking for help to cope stress Haha. May I know how to jump from civil engineering to IT without any experience in programming whatsover ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 2 2019, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(ipohmali70 @ Mar 2 2019, 08:55 AM) If you like to work in the office then engineering is not the line for you. i prefer design more than staying at site at the whole day  Go to site once in awhile should be ok for me This post has been edited by pw8799: Mar 2 2019, 09:43 AM
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TSpw8799
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Mar 3 2019, 10:58 AM
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Forgt to ask. Is it necessary to include expected salary in the resume for fresh grad ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 3 2019, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(eddydo @ Mar 3 2019, 11:46 AM) No, you don't have power to command. in any case they will have a box to fill in the application form. If the salary I placed is too high , will the interviewer keep me out of their consideration straight away ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 3 2019, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(l4nc3k @ Mar 3 2019, 07:11 PM) Depends on company.. but personal experience says yes. I have a colleague who applied for a job online, put 10k expected salary, the company never call. Update his profile there put 9k expected salary straight away got a call within a week. I thought the interviewer will screen the candidates according to the qualifications and capabilities and call them for interview rather than just expected salary ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 3 2019, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(kentmeng @ Mar 3 2019, 08:10 PM) Be ready to get scold. Ppl very rough in this field. I'm ready
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Mar 4 2019, 09:17 AM) no, because they already have a number for fresh grad. they will just offer u. take it or leave it If i purposely put low expected salary to get the chance of interview, but once I gt the offer, can I still nego with them ? This post has been edited by pw8799: Mar 4 2019, 10:08 AM
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Mar 4 2019, 12:58 PM) If anything, I'd say low celery means you have low self confidence, hence a pushover at work, thus cannot deal with outsiders. OR even worse, low celery = low skilled, meaning I have just fired another quota filling idiot. Just put the "market norm" la. Honestly, I've never landed a job where I lowball my celery.  2500 to 3000 should be ok?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Mar 4 2019, 10:33 AM) as per my experience with banking, even if you put 1000 as your expected, they will still offer what they have set for you. but why put low salary just to score an interview? So they wouldn't care the salary you put? I am wondering if all fresh grad in the same company will get same salary? All different? I also heard that those who scored first class honor tend to get higher salary?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Mar 4 2019, 03:48 PM) usually all same. unless your role is very super niche. other than that, all fresh grad across dept will have same salary, standardized. those who scored first class / master / phd may demand a little more than fresh grad usually how much more ? haha
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Mar 4 2019, 08:58 PM) not much to begin with. like rm200-rm500 I'm wondering the extra few hundred ringgit for first class hons holder is applicable for all types of company? or big company only ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(victorian @ Mar 4 2019, 09:16 PM) Don’t ask too many questions. Once you get into the real world you will know. I'm worried that its too late to know
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TSpw8799
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Mar 4 2019, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(victorian @ Mar 4 2019, 09:23 PM) Sometimes we fresh graduates really cannot demand too much. We don’t have so many bullets to nego better just take what is on the table. Wait until 1-2 years when you have more experience on table and then you can demand. one very important question , if I am still waiting for reply from other company, but I ady gt offer from the another company, then how long I can drag to reply the company?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 5 2019, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ Mar 4 2019, 10:52 PM) Exactly like me, you sound like a desperate fresh graduate who wants to make the most out of your freshly acquired piece of paper awarded by the university because you passed all of their exams. You're are looking for somewhere to maximise learning experience, maximise earnings and maximise personal development. The real world is like this, there is no absolute best choice that will give the most value. Soon you will realise there is no perfect fit. There will always be trade offs. Many of the questions you asked have many different answers because different people go through different experiences. You can only learn what mistake not to make from there, what to avoid, what are the consequences of some options, but there is no absolute correct choice for you. For that you will have to find out about it by experiencing it yourself. It's called life. Bro, when did you start to apply for job last time ? I plan to apply now, but I'm afraid that's too early. I'm about to finish my studies in July  I'm worried that the interviewer will just put aside the resume first without looking at it since there're still about 4 months to go.
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TSpw8799
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Mar 5 2019, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Mar 5 2019, 10:04 AM) u can apply 3 months earlier. when they hire new staff, they know they need serve notice period. u can tell them upfront as well only july u can start. they will probably ask if u can join earlier, see if u can do intern or drop by sometime Should I apply thru jobstreet? Or call their company to get the email from HR instead ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 6 2019, 09:08 AM
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Is it possible to reject the offer once I agreed to join them? Let's say i already received an job offer from a company and i accepted it. But, after that, i gt better job offer from another company ... Then how ? Is it ok to reject the first company that offer me the job ?
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TSpw8799
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Mar 6 2019, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Murasaki322 @ Mar 6 2019, 05:41 PM) As long as you did not land any signature on any piece of paper stating your acceptance to the offered conditions, you are free to go. Black and white matters the most. Verbal acceptance and change of mind is about how well you negotiate your way out. How about revert after signing the contract? i will face lawsuit ? This post has been edited by pw8799: Mar 6 2019, 06:34 PM
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TSpw8799
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Mar 8 2019, 02:01 PM
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Besides jobstreet, any other job application platform for job seeker in Malaysia?
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