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post Mar 13 2019, 09:46 PM

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I started to apply for jobs now, but the HR replied me that it's too early...
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post Mar 14 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Mar 14 2019, 02:59 PM)
wait until after your final exam la....
start applying while waiting for your results.
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is it too late ? rclxub.gif But some companies actually invited me for interview now btw. hmm.gif
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post Mar 14 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(badguy93 @ Mar 14 2019, 03:49 PM)
you will end up get the same result from the hr ... 'its too soon'
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haha, then why they asked me for interview ? hmm.gif
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post Mar 15 2019, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Beanster @ Mar 14 2019, 11:17 PM)
You should be finishing study sumwhere june or july? Im wondering whats the hurry with your application. Even if you got an offer on hand you cant leave your study without finishing it anyway.

All the recruitment at present time is to find a suitable candidate ASAP to fill in the spot. I doubt they will wait for a non graduate that are still months away from graduating. Just make sure the recruiter is informed of your study duration. If they still insists you to go for the interviewer then probably you will be kept under KIV and they might still need people later. Do communicate it upfront and ask them when they are looking to fill in the post. Dont sign the offer then only to let them know you have not graduated yet and still far from it.
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I just hope that I'm able to secure a job when i finished my studying. Applying earlier can avoid compete with more people, am i right ? If my thinking is wrong, kindly correct it haha. rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 15 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Beanster @ Mar 14 2019, 11:17 PM)
You should be finishing study sumwhere june or july? Im wondering whats the hurry with your application. Even if you got an offer on hand you cant leave your study without finishing it anyway.

All the recruitment at present time is to find a suitable candidate ASAP to fill in the spot. I doubt they will wait for a non graduate that are still months away from graduating. Just make sure the recruiter is informed of your study duration. If they still insists you to go for the interviewer then probably you will be kept under KIV and they might still need people later. Do communicate it upfront and ask them when they are looking to fill in the post. Dont sign the offer then only to let them know you have not graduated yet and still far from it.
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Btw, if i am offered with the job , why dont sign it if the remuneration and job prospect are good ? How long can drag before i accept the job offer ? hmm.gif
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post Apr 15 2019, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Dachshund @ Mar 16 2019, 02:09 AM)
Hi I know as a fresh graduate, can be daunting to step out of the uni life and straight into employment and not fk up..

Whatever questions you have, compile it and reply me..ill help you..

Dont reply me with 1 question per reply, compile all concerns and reply me. E.g:

1)...
2)...
3)...
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I managed to secure 2 jobs at SG and 2 in Malaysia now. I am in dilemma now, which one should i go ? I was told that working in SG is very stressful. Since I dont have any experience yet , i wish to learn more and gain more experience. I am kinda worried that if i work in SG straight away after graduate, I would be scolded by boss in SG. I was told that working in SG will have minimum guidance from boss or colleague. At the same time, the exchange rate in SG is quite attractive. If i choose to work in Malaysia now, will it be difficult for me to work in SG next time ? As i grow older, i might have more concern to leave Malaysia. Which place should I work ? Please advise

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post Apr 16 2019, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Apr 16 2019, 12:45 AM)
Stay in your shell forever if you're so afraid.

If your end goal is to leave Malaysia and you already have the option to do so now, why not?

But for us to help you analyse your position to better advice you.. Why not share which companies have offered you so far?
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Well, for the company in Malaysia, it's a big mnc company,for the job in Sg, it's a small firm basically doing everything.... I like the working environment and culture in the company in Malaysia after the HR told me about it. If I choose to work in Malaysia after few years then move to sg, would it be too late?
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post Apr 16 2019, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Apr 16 2019, 12:45 AM)
Stay in your shell forever if you're so afraid.

If your end goal is to leave Malaysia and you already have the option to do so now, why not?

But for us to help you analyse your position to better advice you.. Why not share which companies have offered you so far?
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If I reject the company in Malaysia, will I be blacklisted from the company?
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post Apr 16 2019, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Apr 16 2019, 11:46 AM)
What industry are you in?

of course you could work locally and make the move in the future, but just know that opportunities to work abroad does not come around often.

If you havent sign any papers yet then you are free to choose which company you like.
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No offer letter has been issued to me so far, I just received email and agreed verbally by the boss. If I reject the offer without signining any letter, will I be blacklisted from the company?
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post Apr 16 2019, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Apr 16 2019, 12:45 AM)
Stay in your shell forever if you're so afraid.

If your end goal is to leave Malaysia and you already have the option to do so now, why not?

But for us to help you analyse your position to better advice you.. Why not share which companies have offered you so far?
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Well, let's talk about the salary. What is the range of salary that a graduate could get in SG? is sgd 2500 too low for a graduate In SG? can any enginner shares the living cost and expenses in SG? I wish to know more.
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post Apr 16 2019, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(garlicpesto @ Apr 16 2019, 07:36 PM)
hahaha
Whats the salary they offered locally and in SG? 2.5k is slightly on the lower end but you can still save up and live normally within your means.
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Then what is the average salary for fresh grad in Sg? Btw I am offered near to rm3k in one of the company in Malaysia. For the company in Sg, the HR have hey to tell me the salary.
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post Apr 17 2019, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Kyotoarm @ Apr 17 2019, 05:11 PM)
Better choose big company lor. much of benefits they provided.

Like me, after graduated im working with main contractor (small company) only 6 months.

Then, i got offer from public listed property developer company, my life changing so much. They provide good basic salary, OT, shares, good bonus, staff purchase discount, outpatient medical for family, medical card, long annual leave, etc.

Currently im sticking with this company around 6years and i still can learn & grow like main contractor does.

With the benefits they provided, im also achieve one step higher in salary & benefits than my other college mates.
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Well, I previously joined contractor also. I worked with developer. I don't really like the site work... So I am looking for office based work now. But working in small company will learn more? Or all about the same regardless of working in big or small company. I am wondering how do you learn like contractor does when u are joining developer? *just asking, no offense *

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post Jun 15 2019, 12:16 PM

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Guys, what's the range of salary for entry level civil design engineer for small, medium and large consulting firm ? Can any senior help ? Thanks in advance ?
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post Jun 15 2019, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(beng10w @ Jun 15 2019, 12:48 PM)
malaysia job is also stressful especially working with chinese boss. some employer even dont recognize job experience in malaysia. you might also start from zero. then you will regret not getting the sg job.
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Which one should i go ? haha your advice is highly appreciated.
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post Jun 15 2019, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Jun 15 2019, 02:44 PM)
2.8k small
3.5k mid
4.5k big and femes
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3.5k for mid and 4.5k for big ? gt such high salary for fresh engineer ? ohmy.gif
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post Jun 16 2019, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Jun 15 2019, 11:05 PM)
depends on what company you go to.

Big MNC O&G market will pay RM5k for fresh grad.
I also know of top class Civil consultancies in Malaysia paying 4.5k+ , but workload like shit.
I also know cheapo chinaman consultancies paying 2.8k
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is my expectation too low ? i was expecting 3k for big mnc company and 2.7k for small consultancy company... doh.gif
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post Jun 16 2019, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Jun 16 2019, 05:23 PM)
3k is rule of thumb for MNC and GLCs
i.e. no MNC will pay you less than that figure and GLCs will at least pay in that ball park.

2.2-2.7k is range for small consultancies.

no harm in applying for any job and asking for 3.5k.
afaik, many companies are heading there in terms of pay already, at least for bigger ones.

If hiring manager ask why, then you just counter back to say "it's my expected celery, if not can nego".
you don't ask for too high, nor do you lowball. Show confidence, but not ignorance.
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Well, i think i still need to gain more experiences first albeit i do have good cgpa , can i ask 3k for small company ?is it too high ? haha
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post Jun 16 2019, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Jun 16 2019, 05:33 PM)
Yes, you can ask for 3k.
When I was a fresh grad, a hiring manager of a small 10+ employee engineering company once told me 3k was too high too, but mentioned it could be considered the figure passed probation. They didn't take me in the end, probably got an experience hire.

No harm in asking. They should understand that costs of living these days are not cheap, thus you would need that kind of figure anyway.

If they ask why you're asking for that kind of figure, just justify the figure with facts, not bullshit.
E.g. dont say you need to buy ipong or bubble tea or pay toyota Godcar loan.

Also, market price is around there anyway. If they're not willing to pay that figure, they would have a hard time trying to hire.
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thanks for ur useful advice. thumbsup.gif i will try. So the salary during the probation period will be slightly lower ya ?

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post Jun 18 2019, 10:51 AM

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Guys, to become a professional engineer, I need to be trained and supervised buy qualified PE ? or ? So i need to be supervised by PE all the time ? So, i only gt the chance to become a PE if i work in a small firm which is supervised by PE most of the time ?
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post Jun 18 2019, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(EBBattlefield @ Jun 18 2019, 01:48 PM)
PE only good for signing off drawings in Malaysia....or to put it in other words.....shake leg, sign paper, make monies biggrin.gif

Used to be that there's only one PE, now Malaysia has 2 stage PE, which is Ir. and Ir. with Practicing Certificate.
You need Ir. to get Ir. with PC. You need Ir. with PC to sign stuff off.

For Ir. application, you need 3+ years working experience and preferably supervised by an Ir.
If there are no Ir. in your office, you may seek help from the Institution of Engineers Malaysia, which are the people supervising the Ir. exams in the first place.

There's a logbook system if there's no one to directly look over you. You'd need to ask the people at IEM to be clear on the procedure. I am a member, though not active enough to remember these things.

Make sure you are registered with BEM as well before you even consider a job to pursue Ir.
BEM will only cost you RM50 one time fee + Rm15 postage should you want them to post the cert to you.

IEM will cost RM100 per year, though it is optional for Ir. certification. It's just so happen that most Ir. are IEM members, although not requirement
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If I work in Sg, can i still apply for IEM and BEM membership?

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