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 Scam/illegal payment gateway help2pay & paytrust88, Opinion?

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TSkhazfx
post Feb 20 2019, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(vistro @ Feb 20 2019, 12:43 PM)
based n my experience, when the customer want to pay by online banking, we can simply redirect to the bank login page together with the buy list item ( it done using ssl and some java server from eCommerce server to the banking server). so the customer can login to their account and proceed on payment... that feel more secured than you enter you login data into website and then they redirect for TAC. It maybe the site can collect customer login and password account..
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that is the worst case scenario.

they might use customer data for crime or even steal customer money when they wanted to.

government or BNM should eradicate such activities as soon as possible before it getting worst IMO. ranting.gif
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post Feb 21 2019, 08:33 AM

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Based on the image, it seems to be Fxx forex broker, not sure your reporting to authority is a wise move. So far heard no or little negative comments on them. Hope your effort would not trigger the authority freeze their account and stuck them into no way, which eventually existing users will be in trouble. You may said you are helping, else you are leading users to black hole. But to be self protect, its your right to justify before depositing. Let us know your update on your investigation. Thanks

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vistro
post Feb 21 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(khazfx @ Feb 20 2019, 06:46 PM)
that is the worst case scenario.

they might use customer data for crime or even steal customer money when they wanted to.

government or BNM should eradicate such activities as soon as possible before it getting worst IMO.  ranting.gif
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yeap you are right. but i think since it online, better report also with KKMM (The Ministry of Communications and Multimedia) since it online... since maybe the operated outside malaysia..

But I think consumer must extra careful nowaday..

This post has been edited by vistro: Feb 21 2019, 02:58 PM
TSkhazfx
post Feb 21 2019, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Feb 21 2019, 08:33 AM)
Based on the image, it seems to be Fxx forex broker, not sure your reporting to authority is a wise move. So far heard no or little negative comments on them. Hope your effort would not trigger the authority freeze their account and stuck them into no way, which eventually existing users will be in trouble. You may said you are helping, else you are leading users to black hole. But to be self protect, its your right to justify before depositing. Let us know your update on your investigation. Thanks
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The goal does not justify the way.

however,what they do is totally wrong and illegal,users should be aware that they should not use unlicensed system such as help2pay and trustpay88. otherwise they will face the consequences of losing money and the account is frozen by the bank.

we do not know whether they are storing or stealing data of every customer who has been using their system, in addition they violate the banking act in malaysia

Yah,will do update here everytime i get info from BNM,SC and SKMM. Thank you
TSkhazfx
post Feb 21 2019, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(vistro @ Feb 21 2019, 02:55 PM)
yeap you are right. but i think since it online, better report also with KKMM (The Ministry of Communications and Multimedia) since it online... since maybe the operated outside malaysia..

But I think consumer must extra careful nowaday..
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i did sent to skmm too.

hope to get their response as soon as possible smile.gif
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post Apr 3 2019, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(khazfx @ Feb 19 2019, 02:23 AM)
Hai forumer,recently i heard info about these 2 payment gateway which is mostly used by gambling website,forex and suspicious website,they are same business activity as ipay88 and other registered & licenced payment gateway.

their operating scheme are all the same,but they are unlicensed and not register in malaysia.

im curious on how they get the API on each bank,must be some insider give the API key to access to every each bank API payment gateway.
or they just good at hacking?

every bank really need to check their banking system security to prevent such glitch and this illegal activity.

i never try their banking system i just too scared they might get our login detail by login using their system. who knows?

anyone experienced using this help2pay and trustpay88 company before? please share some thought with us.

i also share my conversation with bank negara regarding this company,still ongoing discussion and under investigate.
their website very not transparent with no company address/phone number and only deal through email :
www.help2pay.com
www.trustpay88.com
i will keep update here everytime i get feedback/reply/news/info from bank negara,sc and skmm.
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Please do not login using this site for any transaction. It is not the bank website. There is someone who retrieve your detail and login to the particular banks. You are sharing your login details with them. The only thing they dont have is the mobile phone for the TAC.
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post Apr 7 2019, 03:48 AM

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QUOTE(CaptainRock @ Apr 3 2019, 04:27 PM)
Please do not login using this site for any transaction. It is not the bank website. There is someone who retrieve your detail and login to the particular banks. You are sharing your login details with them. The only thing they dont have is the mobile phone for the TAC.
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Couldnt agree more!
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post Mar 30 2020, 03:18 PM

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Hi guys. Any update on this?
Ivan113
post May 19 2020, 10:02 PM

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was trying to invest in eToro, when topup, it links to this website, what's funny is I tried to search for the website in google, end up saw this post.
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post Jun 23 2020, 11:54 PM

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aerotec
post Jul 14 2020, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(jeevanpillai @ Jun 23 2020, 11:54 PM)
Any updates regarding this? I just found out that Olymptrade and IQ Option both use this scam payment platform.
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Are u sure this Is scam payment platform? Seems many forex and gambling websites use this as a way to transact. I googled and doesn’t seem to have any good or bad reviews on them.
gwapito
post Jul 14 2020, 07:27 PM

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I'm using eToro and have made deposits using 2 methods, Local Online Banking and Credit/Debit Card.

I find that the Local Online Banking option has better exchange rates (USDMYR), around 1% to 1.5% cheaper, compared to the Credit/Debit Card.

Choosing this option will redirect you to the https://directpay.racethewind.net page.

You are then required to provide your bank's username/password. There are instances that you'll need to give your answers to your security questions as well.

You'll then receive an SMS to enter your OTP. Whole process takes around 1 to 2 minutes.

You may find this unsettling because of the obvious security issues. First thing banks tell you not to provide -> username, password, security answers/questions. laugh.gif

Also, the receiver name won't be "eToro" on your transaction receipts. Go figure.

There is also a chance that your deposit will not be immediately reflected on your eToro account.
Good thing customer service is responsive and have resolved every issue I had, just as long as you present the transaction receipts.

Credit/Debit Card is definitely more convenient and funds are reflected immediately, without compromising any of your online banking information.
You just need to enter your card details, similar to paying in Shopee/Lazada.

And this time, "eToro" will be reflected in your transactions.

My workaround for the Local Online Banking, is to change my bank's password, immediately, each and every time after making a transaction, successful or not.
And when they do ask for the security answers/questions, I also change it after.

I find comfort that passwords, security answers/questions, and mobile numbers (not visible) can't be changed without the OTP.
Also, I'm not using my "main" bank account for this.
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post Jul 15 2020, 11:14 AM

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Giving answers to security questions sounds like a big no-no. Usually security questions are only needed for password change/account verification stuff etc.

 

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