Was it ever worth the price?

Any luxury watches in fact , Maurice , Jaegar , IWC etc

I'm from a somewhat modest , middle income family hence I was never really exposed to luxury goods, and I'm never to keen on them.

When it comes to personal spending I've always been frugal. Buying 2nd hand stuff , eating food on a budget ( though I eat a lot since I do train upwards of 5x/week).
I don't drink nor have a nightlife... Since I never see them as a good investment of time and money


Lately my business is doing somewhat decent. And I'm able to save a decent amount of money a month. Last year I was able to get myself a 2nd hand car. Which I'm really proud of.



And lately I've been looking into luxury watches , partly cause I was exposed to my client's collection of watches which well ... isn't good

I'm thinking of getting a Rolex for my 25th Bday , which is next year.


I don't wear watches so my main idea of getting a Rolex is

1. Hopefully it appreciates or at least retains 80% of it's value over the course of 10+ years

2. Pass down to my children

3. Add a little swag ... I guess?

I'm thinking of a moderately priced 2nd hand Rolex say a Datejust from WingWah , apparently I can't get a brand new Rolex as the waiting list is 3 freaking years.

So what do you guys think.

Would a Rolex be a good ( or at least decent ) use of money?

Once u bought a Rolex, be prepared to buy the second and third and fourth ones. It's addictive like drugs.

Been there done that.

If you don't have passion, don't.

Datejust is a great watch.

Though u should know.
Young people wear rolex, ppl are always gonna assume that's pasar malam rolex.

Depends on how the guy carries himself. If dressed and look neat, the Rolex should match.

more then status.. there is a tad bit of passion , appreciation and stuff

which i think youre lack off , heck, you dont even wear watch let alone these type

i think youre better off with some kinda investment with that extra moolah

or find something else u really into

Submariner....not only holds value, appreciated 10k in past 5 years

Don't buy, not going to get you another extra second every day.

It's my testimony

Waiting list is 3 years?.Lol. What model is that 3 years?. U had survey multiple AD or only 1.

Had buy 2nd hand b4. Not worth it. Once u send to rolex centre for servicing u know, it is not really worth it.

My first hand rolex never show any symptom need to service after 7 years bought. Lel.

You buy rolex, are you going to wear it? Or are you going to store it in the safe. Either way. Be prepare to service the watch every 5 years. No date submariner would be my first choice.

Yes. But do some research on which models to get. Go ahead and splurge.

But be warned...this hobby is hard to stop

I bought a 2nd hand sub for 19k 2 years back. Now got someone offer me 25k for it...wtf appreciate faster than property. im not selling though.

Buy tudor get rolex (Book)

#maluapabossku

Wah orang2 atasan ini korang semua

Kan ada 0% 3 years EzyPay.
Installment cheaper than ketam tebu.

I'm curious, what kind of monthly income would one need to have to afford these watches? Seems like even /k's 20k standard isn't enough.

Do you really like watches? Can you live without it? Don't go ahead and buy just because the bloody thing would appreciate. Have you touched and felt other brands apart from Rolex?

Can you wear and afford to scratch or dent it?

#bossku😍

..will never buy again.
:facepalm:

Big fat bonus

If you just want to be able to tell time, it's not worth it

Passing on to you kid is a good idea. I want to do that too but I haven't have the stomach to splurge that much.

What's your budget? If me I would go for JLC or Alange/Sohne

what business are you in?

My boss and my boss punya boss, all wear Rolex

TS, ayam also somewhat like you. although i earn standard /k salary, i have always preferred to be low key. on working days, i just wear my seiko diver, which is my one and only watch. i bought it bekos it resembled the rolex submariner in a way, and the sub has always been my dream to own.
but on my non working days, i don't wear my watch. i prefer to check the time with my phone and sometimes i tell the time by looking at other ppl's watch. even when i go out for dinners/weddings/meetings etc, i don't wear my watch.
in the end, my wish for a sub has disappeared and i prefer it this way.

Thanks for the replies !

As for passion ...

Well I do read a lot of articles on horology , as well as youtube vids , their heritage are definitely cool to listen to.

As for frequency of wearing them , I'd say maybe 4 -5 x a year since I work in the fitness industry hence I use my trusty Casio 90% of the time

budget wise .. I'm thinking <20k but if a 40k+ watch is a better investment then so be it

I like this one

Fair enough , I wanted a Seiko Samurai so badly last year ...

but I thought I wouldn't ever wear it and the ability to pass down to the next generation isn't there hence I decided to get a Casio Pro Trek

hopefully it's the same for me haha

Rolex watches are overrated. You can just scavenge a Seiko box in the dumpsters behind clock stores and post pictures in /k to project your wealth. Then create a few threads here and there about overseas travels and you won't need some real Rolex to tell people there's some money in your wallet.

Chances are I won't be wearing it often

I'm planning to buy it in hopes it'll appreciate / pass down to the next gen

I might post on my insta once though cause well I'm human

I was interested in Seikos like really really into it , 5s , Samurais , Divers , Tuna etc etc

but I lost interest since they lack the heritage / poor resale.

I don't really care about how it looks tbh

the only investment I know how to do is FDs haha

Wanted to try bursa but It's too confusing

property ... not enough capital

Wah, you people poison my mind already....

no become prisoner watch

everything also scared, leave house scared people break in, wear outside scared people snatch

then the fakes look even btter than real

I'm guessing TS is a rolex type of guy. Good choice.
But i'd prefer a GS now, more 'shimmering' in meetings, since my work is full of mtgs.

Rolex still ok, the value is still retain as there are nice diamonds where pawn shop also accept compare to luxury watches like Omega

Car = a transport from point A to B

Watch = any cheap and branded watch still give u correct time

Ya TS should just buy Baby G watches!

Dont have in Malaysia.

Initially have the same thought as yours after bought first one, however once bought second, i wear it daily.

Being automatic, even with a turbullion, it won't be as accurate as a plastic Casio ...

But if you are into its mechanics as a watch, go for it ... Happy GAS .... Gear Acquisition Syndrome .... No regrets having a few or ... many automatics ... Just imagine a few years and springs could keep almost accurate time ....

buy first, think later
after bought u will know how you want to manage it

People don't understand he wants to reward himself and that's perfectly fine with a luxury novelty.
My 2 cents datejust is kinda uncle but is probably more flexible for dressing up and down
Maybe explorer 1 also can which should be in price range
On the other hand can also look beyond Rolex, as ppl always say when deciding watches , buy the watch that you want not what reviews say or if it holds value.

I think Grand Seiko is severely underrated. Most models are cheaper than a Sub yet very high quality. Downside is they don't retain value as well as a Rolex.

Please, it's a trap!

I got myself Explorer 2 White, Sub No Date, then Batman. In the end settled with a classic Explorer 1 39mm. Will keep and pass down.

Until you see the homages and it's much worth to have them....

Dont like Rolex watch design. Ain't gonna buy something just because of better RV...

I've heard the Snowflakes are amazing ! But I've seen in person before and it ... looks pretty bland.

I asked my friends what they think of the price they thought it's RM>200

when I told them it's RM15k they thought I was BS-ing

Don't bother to start with seiko. In the end it will never be a Rolex. End up selling your GS at loss.

I guess you could get a Grand Seiko after you've "finished playing Rolex".

Paid your income tax? Coz the moment you buy it, inland revenue is going to be all over your ass, you know that right?

Or live in regret.

Hehe. Your smartphone also tell the time accurately and take selfie also.

Its a good investment.

All rolexes increases in value cox rolex increase price every 2 years or so.

Sports model like black submariner is 28k 2 and half years ago. Now is reaching 40k mark if u can find them used.

Gmt batman was only 32k last year now is 50k mark. Ridiculous.

True storeyz

Any owner can share the service cost of rolex?

I've not known that. Even cash buy ?

Datejust is fine with every occasion.
Datejust is still considered as sporty model.

Poor fag like ayam only able to afford tudor

Rolex up due to its huge demand and it's supply shortage I guess

Panerai would be more suitable at ur age. Rolex is bit org tua imho

What? That you have to pay income tax or what?
Young people so gatal these days, everything put on socmed you think inland revenue won't find out?

This I agree.

Either pasar malam or daddy kasi, not many will acknowledge a 25 y/o can wear a real Rolex. Sometimes you need to dress to match your age. Just like a 25 y/o drive Ferrari, the general public will perceive that person as rich 2nd gen daddykasi or a MLM scheme scammer, never thought it is bought using his own money. A Casio MT-G or something youthful is better than a Rolex for now. Rolex if you are 40 y/o mid life crisis uncle and want to show off you are successful already. Not too expensive if you will wear it as a daily workhorse watch.

This post has been edited by RicoT: Feb 9 2019, 11:37 AM

I'll be filing for 2019. But I never knew cashbuy will arouse suspicion. Anyhow the idea is for 2020 hence. Good to know tho

That's a fair point.

There are bigger priorities for me like property.

But property is such high risk that it scares me to the bones.

Look. Not telling what to do. But why look for unnecessary trouble by attracting unwanted inland revenue attention and maybe a troublesome audit.
If you have to ask about buying a Rolex then it doesn't seem to fit in your current self image.
Rationally, if your business only just started making profit, might as well keep the money on standby for any unforeseen cash crunch because the outlook going forward is going to be poor unless you're involved in ahem businesses.
And why be so clichéd, make a bit of money and want to show off that you just made some money? Lol
Swiss watches some people think will hold value with time, yes if you have a very vintage piece that you managed to buy at a bargain price not these current mass produced pieces. Fine as they're, they're never going to be with as much a limited piece from the 50s or 60s. And these things are usually sold on consignment (iinm), meaning you get your money when the shop sells it not before.

Rolex price just increased AGAIN ....5yrs back a 2nd hand sub would cost u 13-16k ...now it cost u 25-30k ...better than fd if u ask me ....

evryone also go Rolex...

buy Omega la..

Rolex is like Nike.. thy are very good in marketing..

but thr are other watches arguably btr thn Rolex..

If you have money, just buy. Rolex is one of the brand that you know when you buy it is gonna retain its value. I am no expert in watch movement. I dont know about other swiss watches. You ask me the difference between two rolex model, I dont know. What I have been doing is everytime I have extra money, I go out and buy one and keep. Only wear it out during wedding dinners.

Some passionate watch collectors have big ego. When you try and own one, they will tell you only limited edition stuff is worth owning or they will tell you why this or that is not good. Ignore them. Whats most important is having money in the pocket, go out and own one.

Better in what sense? The clock is more accurate? You want an accurate watch go get a digital watch. Watch is about prestidge and brand name.

I get one more 1236334 41mm blue face no diamond fluted bezel syukur liao.....

But these days i think they purposely manipulate the stock level, kedai asyik Kosong. Jerr

I do understand where you're coming from hence I decided to start filing tax ASAP

I can't be 100% certain my business will continue flourishing but for the past 2 years it's been rather stable, I plan to get the watch in 2020 hence I have 1 more year to have another barrier.

And as I've said in the opening I'm not a person to splurge I got this inspiration after talking to my client. He advised me to buy a Rolex since it appreciates very well , at least for his case. He sold his 2 old Rolex ( 10 years + ) and made a RM5k+ profit while wearing them at the same time. Even if he were to lose - 20% of the watches value it's already done it's due.

Hence I thought it'll be a good investment. I don't mind concurring a loss here and there. As many parts of life are uncertain.

Can't argue with this fact . We do live in a materialist society

Thanks mate ! That's pretty good advice

deswai TS go for Rolex... only bcs of its brand name and prestige..

It really comes down to your lifestyle and what you choose to splurge on. Even with 10k a month you can buy a luxury watch, as long as you don’t have high commitments for other things.

Heck my uncle earns around 10k and has like 4 harleys, but he drives an old beat up 90s corolla and stays in a single storey old terrace house. For him, majority of his spending goes to his bikes. Plus he’s single so yeah, hardly any commitments.

Ask your customer in detail, how much he paid for them, and how much he sold them for after 10 years. You do business, you work out the ROI. Did he get the money immediately like when you go Cash Converter or is it by consignment.
Life might be uncertain but due diligence must still be done.

wait what ur budget again?

all the way Rolex bro. u wont regret it. infact, it might be your only watch.. usually, people buy Rolex as their end game watch or its the start of their SOTC.

so get on with it.

i wonder which model strike ur interesr best?

Date just no need queue one ts

And the discount in ad for datejust is high enough, to not make a person buy a used one

He got money want to buy rolie I'm sure he can easily fly to Singapore or Hong Kong to get this watch if he wants to 😁

Wahhh nak Jual Tak

I would recommend u get date just n keep it, some ppl buy Daytona n no money wanna sell fast end up selling below prices cuz not everyone can afford it

One time I saw a guy with nice watch, then I see his Facebook he's been wearing the same watch since small boy, 10+ years. Make my image of him become poor and lame already

I want to buy Rolex brother Tudor 58. But sadly too huge for my tiny wrists.

Uh.... Which one? The Sub, Exp 2 and Batman no more liao. Only the Exp 1 still around.

58 is great size wize and looks. The only thing stopping me to get it is the thickness....

That depends on which Datejust though. If the classic and 36, can find plenty. 41 though is not easy to find.

Of course you can still go for 2nd hand or grey markets.... maybe try reputable shops like Wing Wah or those in BTS....

Of all my prestige watches, the Rolex Datejust II still keeps the most accurate time. It's quite amazing how a mechanical watch can be so precise.

I'm not looking to buy anymore watches in the near future (can't wear them all!!), but if you ever decide to get only 1 Swiss prestige, then GET A ROLEX ...

Got a Rolex Black Submariner Date when I have made it at 38 years old for about RM33k. Use it during festival and functions. Apparently the same model now is about RM40K+.
Excellent time piece.

This post has been edited by Jonlam: Feb 9 2019, 03:23 PM

SA contact still got ah?


41 mostly available in half gold or half rose gold.. can find though but not those enter one outlet terus have that type.. need to a few

I don't see a reason for buying luxury watches nowadays if the purpose is just to show time which any Smartphone/Smartwatch can do at a fraction of the price. But if you want it to be handed down for generations, then it's fine.

Rolex is a great watch

When you start watch collecting, be mindful that it is very addicting, like a drug

You might start with a Rolex, Seiko or and brands, but slowly you might move to a higher end brands to compensate your watch addiction.

To serious watch collectors, a single Rolex is never enough.

Rolex is a great watch

When you start watch collecting, be mindful that it is very addicting, like a drug

You might start with a Rolex, Seiko or and brands, but slowly you might move to a higher end brands to compensate your watch addiction.

To serious watch collectors, a single Rolex is never enough.

I thought of this brand also from pic looks really nice but unless it's on my wrist ...cant really tell..

I guess it's better than the generic tag or ball

i rike to kolek boxes

Where did you buy the 2nd hand one? Can't trust many places with original 2nd hand stuffs.

Servicing price right? More than Rm1.5k?

I still wonder, what makes Rolex price appreciate so much compared to other brands? Limited quantities?

So if 2nd hand keeps appreciating, i guess new models should be more expensive now?

a luxury watch is a statement that shows u made it.. u r successful in life...

it is also a fashion piece.. a work of art tht u can wear on ur hand...

A snowflake is RM15k? You must have found a pretty good deal. I think it retails close to 6k USD.