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post Jul 9 2007, 08:24 PM

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PC-G7B...i wonder how much do they price it... drool.gif
Hmm, i'm personally interested in the Classical series, but when you guys said only one model...Hmmm, maybe still ATE will be a better place to search for my upcoming casing.

Acecombat,
Wats so special ar...Can i say that the overall built and material quality is better than those cheapo casings, and most Ah Lians are design with Airflow taken into consideration, so basically they should be offering better airflow compared to other generic cases. I understand they cost a bomb when compared to generic, but you don't get a full alu case when you get generic here in Malaysia. Considering that some CM cases are priced at RM2++, i personally think those entry level Ah Lians could be better buys...
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Very well said indeed.
But again, the simplicity design is a personal preference. I'm still using an old Enlight case because it suits my taste of being simple and practical. Simple front panel, nice working space but too bad no removable mobo tray, and the airflow sorta sucks.
Some people would prefer some casings which are more chio like raidmax, thermaltake, soldam drool.gif (one which is simple, elegant and has the touches of godlike, handbuilt summore drool.gif)

Btw, acecombat's casing is very very chio...But imagine if all those airbrushing were to be on a Stacker, god it's gonna be a match made in heaven.

Darnell:
I took one CM C5 from Robyncom for RM165 only...But assembling it and doing cable management in it really takes a lot of very very precise planning, if not the cables would be like cacing o... sweat.gif Considering a Ah Lian PC-7s for RM238, i dun think we'll consider the CM C5 cheap... tongue.gif

Btw, not all Ah Lians have obstructed front area, some models like the PC-007 has a brilliant front panel which still keeps it's simplicity and yet offers spectacular airflow.
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post Jul 12 2007, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 12 2007, 06:42 AM)
yo bro,i like Soldam a lot,they look so cool but the price is even cooler....
u sure they are handmade?btw,i argee the word that u use to describe soldam G0D-L1K3. notworthy.gif

anyway,my casing is not chio la....and u r telling the right thing,i'm gonna get a full tower and brush up a devil with scythe and riding a devil horse.haha.....this gonna break my wallet into few pieces again,and u guys always can see my wallet got a lot of jarum scar one.... laugh.gif

bro @meno and darnell,if u guys come to cut ur hair at green lane height,u will see this casing in a hair saloon,the name is Line Cut Hair Saloon,i left my quad over there to let my hair stylist bro to play game, brows.gif afraid he boring when working.

yeah,i wan a full tower casing and brush it up kaw kaw!!! thumbup.gif
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Ur bro hairstylist? rclxms.gif Next time can go there ask for super cheap uber cool haircut... tongue.gif ...
I used to cut in one shop in Ivory, but the stylist(my friend lari oredi, run with my money summore vmad.gif )
Now i go Indian barber cut RM5 only... tongue.gif

Soldams are hand built, means parts are built by machine, but the Casing is hand assembled IIRC, so it's called hand built.
Wow, full tower with Air Brush...Stacker 832? Tat will look really chio like those which are factory airbrushed. So nobody offer u good price for ur Casing ar?

I want afull tower also, but i prefer either brushed alu style or maybe mirror shine gloss for my paintjob. No money to airbrush...Maybe water colour brush still can afford lar... tongue.gif

Bro, tukar wallet lar...Pantang one u know, once wallet pua kang, means money also cannot stick one, sure flow out like water... tongue.gif

I'm still waiting for price quotations from a shop in PG for Ah Lian PC-007b, PC-7s and also the PC-xx60 something...Will post up once i get the prices so that all out there can consider... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 12 2007, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 12 2007, 07:01 PM)
oh. which shop of Penang sell ah lian ?
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Advance Tech BJ sells one model for the time being, but the other models are available for order.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 12 2007, 08:37 PM)
so the advance tech got la.....have to go to see...
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Yup, PC-G7B on display. You can go have a look and see whats so special about Ah Lian.
They have arctic cooling cpu coolers as well, but that doesn't interest me. I'd rather if they tell me they've got TR.
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post Jul 13 2007, 11:22 PM

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Hmm, i would slightly disagree with you guys there. You upgrade your hardware frequently but not the case, a good case will last you a very long time, like my good old enlight had served me around 7-8 years, if not because of the airflow limitations, i might not consider changing.

While for ah lians, the airflow should be much better than the CM C5. The C5 front intake is almost useless. A pathetic 80mm fan if i've not mistaken. If you plant o impove the airflow, maybe you'll get high speed fan for the intake and exhaust as well. But that you will have to sacrifice the silence of the PC.

For me, maybe spending around 1k for the casing is a little too much, but i do always feel a couple of hundred, say 3-400 is still reasonable considering the better i-cutes are priced more than 100 also nowadays, same as the other generic ones.
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post Jul 15 2007, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(b.u.m @ Jul 14 2007, 01:17 PM)
I agree with u , bro n305er...But compare I - Cute & the normal chaplang chasis , I would say I - Cute is better coz it provides more space for us to add chasis fan on it...This may help in air flow of our whole computer system...Very few chaplang chasis that would have 12cm chasis fan space compare to I - Cute...Conclusion is ` You`ll get what you pay for when buying the more expensive casings `...Cheers..

Added on July 15, 2007, 8:25 pmIm sorry but why suddenly this thread like become silent???Where is everyone??
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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 15 2007, 09:19 PM)
I think all people are calculating budget to upgrade to C2D on 22 July.. tongue.gif

Just came back from BJ again.

Basement, 1st floor, 2nd floor are full of hand phone shop, grd floor have some camera shop, 4th floor have a lot of computer shop....
It is look like BJ now become IT plaza..  tongue.gif

yaya.. Agree, Icute casing power supply which can support basic system.
It is suitable for normal user who want to save cost.
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It's quite true that you get what you pay for. Cooler Masters are better than those Cap Ayam and Itik. The higher end ones are just as good as some Ah Lians and Silverstones. Frankly, even the C5 is already quite a good casing.

Nowadays many i-cutes do come with proper work space and also nice fan compartments for additional case fans, but i would have to say those stock i-cute fans would do nto much help for airflow, better consider some more seriuos fans if you want some real good ventilation. However, I-cutes are considered much better than those cheapo RM80 for casing+PSU like the one i'm using for my 2nd rig. Just that sometimes when budget is taken into concern, many will still go for the cheapest ones. Nowadays, many brand like E-mag, Now, E-view has casings which look very proper, but the material just doesn't feel solid. Most of them come with dual 80/90mm fan slots behind and either single or dual 80mm intake.

But anyhow, the casing is just not really that important, a better PSU will need to be prioritized before considering for a better casing. For me, it's ok to stick to a cheap casing but it's never ok to stick with a cheap PSU. I just dun trust them.

Darnell, seems like u go to BJ frequently, so u got the cable you were looking for?
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post Jul 16 2007, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 15 2007, 10:34 PM)
just back from BJ,visiting ah lian the G7 and b.u.m.
the ah lian is ok la,the guy is quite friendly even he knows i went there just for kacau only...

he got selling Palit,gaygaybyte,assus,Evercool,Crucial,really feel a bit Advance liao laugh.gif
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Hmm, seems like they are quite interesting. I know they have Arctic cooling CPU fans also. The guy is ok, that day also i went kacau, he even open up the plastic show me, open side panel and tell me many Penang ppl dunno about Ah Lian lar, and say many people come his shop he tell them ah lian good and those ppl only say coolermaster good... sweat.gif

Crucial seems to be interesting, finally we get something here. So now we need someone to bring in XFX, BFG, EVGA, Team then we'll really have a happening community in Penang, but i wonder how many of us would actually buy these high end stuff here in PG? As prices in LY and LYN are cheaper...

QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 15 2007, 10:46 PM)
It is because i plan to upgrade my computer ma..
I go there to have a dinner , then go to have a survey lor..
See got C2D price drop alrd or not..  tongue.gif
then try to find AMD X2 BE2350.

and... find my cable

I cannot found my cable leh...

Then i bought one from the seller that sell me the card..

Cost me RM45..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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AMD X2 BE2350... drool.gif ...I wonder if we would be able to find it on malaysian soil soon...Lol...They overclock like mofo and these little B*sta*ds suck as little power as a hamster sucking from the water canteen. brows.gif

How bout ur 939 Dual Core opty plans? Scrapped? ohmy.gif I'm still waiting to get a job confirmation so i can place an order for a 170 from elhh.

Dinner in BJ? where did you go? I couldn't think of any nice places for dinner in BJ... shakehead.gif
Good to hear that u finally got the cable, RM45 is still not that bad considering how much you already spent for the card...
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post Jul 16 2007, 04:59 PM

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How bout the handpicked by Victor Wang X6800??? brows.gif

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Ya, he was like that to me too. But when i start asking about a few other models, he started to erm...I actually dunno much bout Lian Li, if you want more detailed information i need to call my friend in KL... tongue.gif

Btw bro, hows the proc? Everything working well? I guess you should have get the standalone 570 chipsets, but the TA690g is quite well too from what i've heard and read, maybe the graphics are a little out, but at least it still comes with HDMI... tongue.gif

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I guess i'll stick to 939 for quite some time to go, wait till phenom is launched and see how it performs, then wait till the price enters my budget range, then only switch... biggrin.gif


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post Jul 16 2007, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 16 2007, 06:42 PM)
Some of the 690G motherboard didnt come with HDMI, if i am not mistaken.

I look at the bulk order just now from elhh..

It is look like no more Opteron alrd?  hmm.gif

Added on July 16, 2007, 6:43 pm
Actually i am doing some rendering.
Don't know what motherboard to take later.  shakehead.gif
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Huh, no more optys??? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
I'm too slow, now can only wait and see if anyone wants to sell second hand... sad.gif

Hmm, mobo...Go for the new DFI Lanparty, the one for AM2, or maybe the p35 Lanparty. Man those boards are damn kewl...Get an x6800, get a DFI, then put in 4gb of Crucial Baliistix Tracer, and put in your quadro (sli-ed), then it will be an ultra cool rig...
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post Jul 17 2007, 04:01 AM

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Darnell, if you can't wait i would say go for the Pentium E series and overclock the hell out of it or get a middle end C2D. I dun think the BE will be available so easily in Malaysia, but i'm also very tempted by it actually, lower power consumption, good overclocking capabilities, overall a very nice proc. 2Gb ddr2, could be good enough for your needs, but if you have extra, can consider dumping for another 2GB as you're relying on heavy graphic and CAD rendering right? Who would complain having too much ram on a rig? tongue.gif

I would say, get a E2160, a Biostar 965P, and 2gb of Ram. You should have a very decent system for a good price there, add in your Quadro... drool.gif (good enough for me)

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I'm not planning for 4GB myself, at least for now. 2GB will be good enough. But for Darnell then it depends on how heavy his rendering jobs are. He should be doing a lot of CAD.

The 2600XT is a good card for HD rendering, takes the load away from the proc.
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post Jul 17 2007, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 17 2007, 04:50 AM)
lol... Get budget AMD X2 dual core 65W would be better & Biostar TForce TA690G, 2GB ram is good enuf for XP or Vista... 3D rendering all is depend GC... check ur software system requirements... AFAIK ARCGIS system requirement quite low

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XP Pro is kenot fully support 4GB lar doh.gif , even Vista not very stable... U need invest more money if going for Quadro...
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Darnell already has a Quadro, so he doesn't need to spend money on it anymore. I'm not sure what OS is he running though.


QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 17 2007, 12:36 PM)
Actually i bought 2G of KVR 667 alrd.  wub.gif  wub.gif
Last time heard that price for ram will increase, so quickly go to buy 2X1G.  wub.gif

Then, I plan to sell it because want to choose opteron 939.
But finally didnt do so.
Prefer new technology. . .  tongue.gif

Thats why i want to wait until 22 July.
See how the price for intel?  tongue.gif
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Good move to buy rams when they were cheap, just compare how much has it increased now.

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 17 2007, 07:21 PM)
@meno,
u think i giggolo kah?still student la,where can i afford to have the X6800 Extreme?
*btw,i got myself a new wallet liao,no more pua kang.

i dont see any price changed yet,still waiting for the price to come,so this coming pc fair the price of processor will be very good i think.

anyway,i'm a 4GB GMH user,i dont see any benefit between 4GB and 2GB,pc shows only 3.5GB installed (in SP2),and 4GB is more difficult to overclock than 2GB.

AMD Brissy is better than E21 series?
u guys make sure of it?
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No lar, where got think u giggolo, just tat giggolo's rig also lose to urs... tongue.gif
Good to hear that u no longer need to use the pua kang wallet...

Btw, it is true that the difference of 2gb and 4gb is barely noticable at almost all times...

I still think the E21 series will out perform the Brisbanes, but again, it the differences are only visible on benchmarks, if in real life, i doubt you gonna get that much differences in feeling as the differences in benchmarks show.
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QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 17 2007, 10:55 PM)
I'd say stick to 2GB and just get the faster 800MHz sticks. 1066MHz is available but not JDEC compliant.

If use 4GB ram, better use 64bit OS instead.
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Hmm, quite true.
But the most KVR 667 sticks will do 800 easily if those Darnell get are Hynix FP-Y5s.


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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 18 2007, 06:37 AM)
@meno,Y5 is good overclocker?
i used them before and only can go the most 835mhz....stupid one,i think u r talking about FP-S5?
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FP-Y5 are not as good ad FP-S5. S5 is legend...
But the Y5 should be able to do 900 at least on average, it's one of the better batches from Hynix.

Even the D9DPN microns i have in hand can hit 900mhz easily(On 1.9v, never pushed them to 2.3v sweat.gif ), and as claimed by Kucingfight can reach DDR1000... drool.gif Too bad i dun have a rig to test them out again, gotta arrange with Lohwenli to OC it kaw kaw again...

QUOTE(darnell @ Jul 18 2007, 09:24 AM)
I bought 2X 1G at RM99X2= RM198  wub.gif  wub.gif

Finally i found Active xtream got BE2350 and BE2300 in their price list. RM369 & RM305..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
yaya. My KVR is Hynix FP-Y5  smile.gif
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Huhu, the prices were very very attractive...God, that was below my cost price when i conducted my bulk... doh.gif

Btw, the price for the BE series... doh.gif With that price, i'd rather take the E series pentium. Take a E2160 and OC till max. But anyhow,wait till the new price for the C2D only decide... laugh.gif The E series proper retail price is around RM280-RM300 for the E2160...

If got shop clear E6600 old stock for RM400 i'll grab instantly...(dreaming so early in the morning... yawn.gif )

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post Jul 27 2007, 07:59 PM

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Actually there's one advantage PC Depot has which even many shops in KL dun have.
AFAIK, only at PC Depot you can pay via Credit Card with NO extra charge, even in Lowyat they charge you 3%.
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post Jul 28 2007, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(zeustronic @ Jul 27 2007, 11:02 PM)
Harga Kilang in another way means gang thao stock oso, can be considered fake, smuggle or stolen stock:P... for example Dell products not suppose to sell at retail shops... But how come they got it...
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Ok, firstly not even PC Depot, all the other stock which you see in retail stores are the same, they just don't suppose to be there.

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 27 2007, 11:29 PM)
anyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed

Added on July 27, 2007, 11:30 pmanyway,latest update....
dell factory giving each department,with those first 200 worker (work for them longest time,maybe more than 10 years) free Q6400 for free!!!!!!!

this news is 120% confirmed
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Bro, Dell in Malaysia is only 11 years old, they came in in 1996.
And for Dell employees which have served 10 years, there are not many.
You can differentiate them by their tag, but seriously, very very few.

QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 28 2007, 09:02 AM)
Aiyah. My friend work in Dell don't need 10 years also can get a lot of free stuff already la. tongue.gif

One of them includes a Raptor 160GB drive which boots vista (can see start button) in 3 seconds and usable within 10 seconds. whistling.gif
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How did he get those stuff? I'm really curious... hmm.gif

QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 28 2007, 09:19 AM)
bro,is 150GB la,anyway,no care whether it's tray or retail,Quad Core 2.13GHz,u still wanna kira it can be used or not ah?
as long as it's working then oc it kaw kaw.

anyway,i'm RAID raptor with 0 but the performance is not like what u describe la. sweat.gif
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Bro, Just FYI, Dell do have 160GB Raptors. I do not know how, but it is from what i know.
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post Jul 28 2007, 10:36 PM

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I'm not sure but i saw it in their spec sheet for Dell USA. They have 160gb Raptors as upgrade option...Xkan dell mistake a 150gb as 160gb kot?

Bout the performance, i have no idea as i haven't laid my hands on any yet. Wait till i get one then i tell you hows the performance.
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Jul 29 2007, 09:28 AM)
go to find Mix Tech in 4th floor,then ask them,they got a lot of AM2 Biostar mobo to choose.

@meno,is it really 10000RPM 160GB Raptor?
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Yup, 10k rpm raptor.
See this link at the hard drive section:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/featu...s=19&l=en&s=dhs
It's the customization link of the highest end XPS Gaming Desktop.

QUOTE(n305er @ Jul 29 2007, 11:52 AM)
Ehh... Things that Dell doesn't want anymore, he take lor... whistling.gif

Dell has a lot of stuff that other shops don't have... That even includes wireless Bluetooth headsets, etc.
As for the performace, My PC is almost exactly like his current computer. Only thing difference is I have better ram and we have different motherboard.
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Hmm..things that Dell doesn't want anymore... hmm.gif
He still got kangtao ar for the Raptor?

Yup, it is true that Dell has a lot of stuff that you can't find outside.

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post Jul 29 2007, 02:31 PM

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Should be renamed to Penang PC Talk.
Talk whatever which is related to Penang & PC here...LOL...
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post Jul 30 2007, 12:06 AM

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LOL...
That's the best marketing strategy of the century.

Silence:
You're from Mix Tech rite? Next time drop by BJ will go c u, might need some stuff once i get my pay...laugh.gif Btw, sent u a PM regarding something i need.
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