Hey guys , I really hate to start this ...
Had anyone heard of the "company" called Link2U ???? They so called themselves
"Supplier" .. anyone ?

I've very worried that the phone i bought from them is an underwater stocks .
Anyone that's familiar about RICONs pls help me .... or anyone that's heard of the company.

Damn! i thought you want give story or some statement...

This post has been edited by ardhawk: Jun 13 2007, 08:52 PM

i heard tat, they got offer a promotion price which is very attractive. Last time i nearly deal with them but i withdrawn last minute...Wat happened to ur phone until u think they sell underwater set to u. pls share.

I oso have bad encounter with that company...
I ordered frm a person and he take stock frm that company...
So okay,we settle everything and agree to cod at night at wangsa maju...
I waited for some time and the person not yet turned up so i called the dealer...
Frm the convensation he said that his delivery boy is delivering some phone at batu cave and would come to wangsa maju to cod with me...
Well ok,i'm fine as long he will come...
After i waited for so long,that delivery boy didn't even call or came to the place...
So i called the dealer again and it turn out that the stupid delivery boy has gone back home....
DAMN f*ck man! I'm helping my freind to buy a phone urgently and they ffk me...
So the dealer promise me that he will cod with me by the next day + 512mb mini-sd as compensation...
The next morning i called him and he gimme a number to call to....
He said it was the Link2U company hp number and i shud call them to comfirm the cod location and time....
I called and they say they will come by 2pm in the afternoon,i waited and waited by no luck,they ffk again...
Then the dealer called me telling me the delivery only can reached by 5pm... I was damn angry already but no choice,their price is the cheapest and my friend already gave me all the full amount....
Bad thing happen next...The damn Link2U called me and said they dont have stock...
I was like WTF! I already called so many times and comfirm bout the cod and at last minute they said they got no stock? What the hell is this company? Take order and last minute say no stock? I was so darn angry....
Then at night my friend called me and say that she need to take the phone at the same night....DAMN suck man,bad luck happens so many times!
So at last i got no choice and went to nearby shop and buy a phone for her....I even top up RM30 myself for the phone =.=....
So guys,beware of this Link2U company...
THEY CAN GIVE CHEAP PRICE BUT THEIR WORKING EFFICIENCY IS VERY POOR

but there are many ppl finding agent for Link2U in Job enlistment and i think there are many Link2U agents in the garage sales...

ya, u are right, a lot of agent...and their price is really good.

the company dun have any shop? why they need delivery boy to run the business??

not sure bout tis..but i heard tat the agents all collect the phone from a shop in sri petaling carefour...so maybe they do have a shop....

The company is based at carrefour sri petaling wan....

ya, for TS, do u mind share wif us how come u felt like cheated by this company?

link2u..nvr heard b4..haa

izzit the one at the main entrance of carrefour??

they do like MLM style....

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Added on June 15, 2007, 11:41 amthey do like MLM style....

This post has been edited by chickenchop: Jun 15 2007, 11:41 AM

good things dont come cheap

yup, the member must pay the member fees 1st

how cheap is it? 20% different from market price??

not sure bout the price different tat they get..but its like MLM for those agent..they would need to pay one time joining fees then oni they will get the price list...then oni they can start selling...i heard tat the joining fees can pay in installment...not sure how true is tis though...

688 for a year/388 half year

bad news .... the phone i bought from them is a RICON !!
And the people in the company keep saying it was a 1st Hand product,
I brought the phone for double checking at Lowyat , found out that it was a 2nd hand phone, and i 've heard they been buying lots 2nd Hand phones from LowYat too !!!

i couldn't believe this , they claimed their product is directly import from overseas , but it doesn't seems like it now , there's people saying they saw the HeadLeader of Link2U shopping for Ricon materials around LowYat.
to all fellow consumers , please beware of this company

wah...have u tried bringing back to the person u bought from and ask them bout it???

Where u bought ur phone? LYN? Wat a irresponsible company! If bought from LYN, ask the fellow u bought ur phone from to come here and explain everything!

Oh my god, very sucks company.

btw, is it new company?

This i dunno,the dealer i contact told me wan....

dun think its new as there are many agents in LYN selling phones from Link2U...

Question to all,

How can we know the phone is RECON or brand new one? Thanks!

let me tell u guys more detail of it ba...
in the true world in the market.

most of the shop or retail is selling 2nd or recon!!!
its fact!!!
try to think of the cost they handling..

rental per month almost 8k,
utilities few hundred,
salary for worker 1k each...3k for 3 workers,
delivery....
they also need to take the risk of the stock keep...

and one more thing..
the margin for a HP just Rm50-80.
if the reatailer do the legal way...
RM12k divide by 100(estimately)..
how many HP they need to sell??

so most of it will change the ori battery and hand free..
then the worst one is selling RICON....

be aware of it.

i know 2 of the HP supplier.
they say so d.

thn about LINK2U..
hmmm.
i'm no so sure about their AP set.
but i know they get ORI set from zitron,minland too d o...

and the AP set supplier is the main distributor of the m'sia.
that main distributor is the uncle of the Boss of LINK2U.
thats y its possible they can sell more cheaper(if compare wit the market pure ap set).
some more they just need to handle one office and do all the sale by people.
so it opposible to sell in cheaper price.

dun trust anyone..
trust to judge it by ur own eyes!

about the 2nd phone u can check the sticker,the screws and if ur a expert..open whole HP and try to see it.

this what the HP supplier tell me.

but the price they give to their dealer is higher than the price of some of the supplier.
but normal ppl will hv no chance to deal wit those supplier.
haha..

so wat can we do...
jugde urself.

take care

hope i do help u all

u r one of the Link2U related family??how u noe so much wan??i bet uncle google dun have all tis info wan....

i know alot of this..
cuz the one of the shareholder of LINK2U is my frnz.

but there may be still have is alot of P&C that most of the dealer and outsider dunno about it.

but judge wit our own eyes ba.
it logical they are possible to supplier that with those price better then retailer.
their cost lower thn retailer.

but i can 100% promise its pure AP or ORI but its better thn u buy from retailer lo.
think logically la.

but i prefer to get the HP from my frnz as supplier.
supplier will not cheat in most of the time except the main distributor stock is RICON stock then the supplier will get RICON(but they dunno d).
most of the problem is the retailer or the one who sell to u from a shop!!!!.
BE AWARE OF IT.

i know alot of frnz doing HP sector d..
market have many hiden point we dunno d..

judge wit ur own eyes..

take care

...... to me , from the very 1st time i start dealing with them ,
i already got con by them , they told me their stock is straight from da other country , but it doesn't seems like it la ..

about the phone market i agree with u , i already pass the phone to 1 technician and check for me , they told me the cover of the phone has been changed , and something about the standard of the cover is a RICON standard pulak. .
now that i realized the 1st time i receive the phone , it doesn't feel fresh . .
it lags , it felt oily and dirty ... felt like someone did something to it

someone ... ! pls help me how to read RICON set

Few weeks ago i nearly deal a N73ME with them, i withdrawn last minute oso, because i found out their box was difference from others, and the N73ME was bundle with 2gb DNA MiniSD, when i ask them y is it DNA, they said because they deal with DNA -.-"... Besides that, their N73ME came with silver color camera shooting button, the original N73ME's camera shooting should be in black, and i found out the phone's navigation button was badly scratch until the chrome all came off, so i blif they trying to sell a recon set to me

GUys~!! be aware of this company , one of my fren working at low yat , said that they used to buy a lot of 2nd handphone in one of the shops , if i not mistaken i think is just in front of Asia Mobile . i may doubt that they are trying to sell RICON to customers . please be CAREFUL~!!!

sorry no offence.i am not trying to say good things about the company.but personally i feel that people are assuming link2u sell recon sets.where is the proof??i dun see any evidence here.all i can see it is based on seller's mouth from low yat.

why dun u all get advice from other sellers in other shopping complex??who knows there is people purposely spoiling link2u's reputation.cz all the evidence is from low yat only.maybe the sellers do meeting and set up this plan cz link2u getting more sales than them.

actually most of the recon sets is from the shop itself and not from the supplier.sometimes the supplier dunno it is recon sets also.my sister did buy nokia phone last time from a shop.and it was recon sets.

i trust supplier more than a shop.and i did buy phone for myself.i tot it was new but they gave me 2nd phone and charging me as a new phone.so u see not all the shop selling brand new phones also.they just change the cover and battery and sell it as new.

my friend buy N 95 from me.it is from link2u.i am gonna bring it to check at the shop.lets see whether it is recon sets.pls dun assume something which dun hv any proof.lets be fair to everyone ok

and sorry if any other forumers not agree with my opinion.think bout it urself.thanks and sorry again

Duh... I'm just a end user, wat's the benefit if i purposely spoil link2u's reputation? As if I can drive benz if i do so? Have u ever seen a brand new N73ME bundle with DNA 2GB MiniSd? With silver color camera shutter button?

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Added on June 18, 2007, 12:36 pmI'm not here to accuse Link2U, I just want to share the true story based on my experience, so that all the potential buyers will be more aware of this

This post has been edited by Ryo`: Jun 18 2007, 12:36 PM

there is a suspicious money-scavenging investment company called Uptrend2U recently made marketing speech at my campus.. is this Link2U related to that?

the uptrend2U at 1st innocently explain "we gotta keep up with business trend.. bla,bla,bla... now is internet trend! so gimme ur cash n i show u formula its guarantee to work u get more money back thing!"

i definitely feel thats a scam n i hope none of my colleagues signed up for it.. still,anyone have encounter this b4?

like what u said to us , we believe with our own eyes .
now that i 've noticed , everything they market their business is just by word of mouth .... they didn't even have a proof of what they are selling .
now to me all they said is just bullshits , everything also use talk to settle only ...
i believe there;s alot of victim of link2u around , coz last time they use the talking way to shut me up also , i think it happens the same thing with the others ..

now that they are uncontactable by me , perhaps anyone there's fren of link2u shareholders can investigate this for us , just do it for the community dude ,
lots of cheating from frenz these days

in related-issue,i think our governments move on banning illegal "investment" internet companies is good for us.. we're still haven't completely open to the dangers of non-face-2-face business yet.. lets all spread awareness message whenever we can..

is this issue related to link2u company??i dun think so.

erm.."andrewkhoo_83",join on the june of 2007,total post 4,which are only in here.does it feels like purposely set up this thread?no offence yar..juz wonder can trust ma.
btw,got evidence ma?buy from which Link2U agent leh?
at least u got his or her's nick name?or real name?but u nvr stated it leh.
once again,i din against anyone ar.juz say out my question.thx..

This post has been edited by michaelyii1988: Jun 18 2007, 11:43 PM

After seeing all this and looking at the content of the whole topic since it had started, I had come out with a conclusion, but I wouldn't want to jump to it directly. I would like to analyze the whole content of the post and replies in this topic.

First of all, the topic starter stated that he is in doubt of the originality and the source of the phone. Of course, this issue is welcome to be raised up, so that we can discuss that with the public, and then from there, we can clarify to the public that what we are dealing with actually.

But what the topic starter wants to express out at the start, which is the originality and the source of the phone that we got, suddenly evolved into a sudden complaint of our company product and services lead by some of the new registered members of the LYN. Cases like unsatisfied services from Link2u connection, and even reconditioned phone (as known as RECOND phone) sold to the customer by Link2U agents.

From what I had analyzed out is that everything seems so dramatically real. But what is and was said is just so surface and immature. The content or complaints are not even backed up by proof or facts, but just a word of mouth.

The issue that I see is that this is a short and easy way of a purposeful defamation of a company by the public, either with reasons supported or no reasons at all. From the perspective of a business view, this type of defamation is just way too common in the world. I would like to analyze this with the public, together with the accuser of Link2U connection.

First of all, Link2u is a company that enables individual to sell handphone and other digital devices as well at a certain price, with a certain profit margin as well. And the powerful thing is that, almost each individual can be an agent for our company (agents for the company are limited) and can sell products to the end users or even supplying to retailing outlets, without stocking the products. For this reason, it will directly or indirectly affect the sales of the retailing outlets that are out in the market.

I would further analyze this with an example provided here. The market for handphone in Kuala Lumpur is like a pie (100%). And lets say there are 5 existing retailer out there, and assumed that each of them are getting 20% from the pie (this make up 100%). And here comes Link2u, of course the pie must be shared because we are here to do business and to serve the community too. The introduction of Link2U in the market will of course result to lesser earnings and profit by the retailing shop. Therefore, the competition arises and only the winners will remain in the run and continue to compete with the others in the market.

After all this analyze, I would now conclude that the all the content in this topic is a clear and straight forward way of defaming Link2U in the public. The accuser maybe correct in a sense that I cannot eliminates the chances of this happening one in a hundredth. But I cannot eliminate the possibilities that the accuser is clearly intended to defame Link2u connection in the LYN and indirectly to the public. This type of accusation without any based of proof and factual reviews is categorized as an unethical way of doing business in the corporate world although a lot of organization are doing this to psycho the consumer's mind. I would like to say frankly that if the products that we are selling are used, reconditioned, fake or whatever you would like to name it as, Link2U would not survive until now. In fact, I have sold quite a numbers of phone, cameras, and digital devices from Link2u, and my customer's feedback so far is all good and excellent services.

For the accuser of this post that Link2u had sold a reconditioned phone to you. First of all, you are a newly registered member in the LYN, and straight away you are accusing us in the LYN. Beside that, how do I know that you had done something on the phone and then accused us of the phone is reconditioned? I would like to inform you that all the phone that Link2U is going to sell are double and triple checked and certified that it is new before it is sold and deliver to the customer. This is our company quality checking of the product before delivering it to the customer. And if the accuser would like to seek justice to the phone sold to you is a reconditioned phone, I would kindly ask you to DISCLOSED your name here and your contact number also so that our staff will come and service to you.

For any more unethical way of doing business by defaming Link2U because of jealousy or whatever, would like to say that we are competing in the market are a right way. For those who will say that link2u prices are very cheap, please check through the whole LYN before saying that the agents from link2u are selling super cheap products that will sounds like we are going to monopoly the whole market (exceptional situation applies under certain terms and conditions). There are far lots of seller in LYN that had a cheaper price than we do.

For more complaints or enquiries, please do voice it out here. For defamation purposes, please do it in PM.

Thank you

In your service,
Daniel Lum

yeah..you are right.he is still newbie and suddenly straight jump to talking bad about link2u right here.that's what i have been saying.he dun really have any proof to prove it.just based on mouth only.besides he not sure whether they are selling ricons also.it is just he assumes that and asking about it here.show us the proof man.dun jus simply assume something which you have no idea on.i really feel like there are people sabotaging link2u n spoiling the reputation here.

I have no idea whether they are selling good phone or recons but one thing for sure is that their service is quite poor....Promise to cod few times dy keep on ffk and delay the time
Its not like i wanna sabotage them but this is what i get frm them

I'm not newly registered, am i allowed to voice out my personal experience here?

I doubt this, if the phone was really double n triple checked, how come u all still unable to notice the navigation button is badly scratch n sell it to ur customer?

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Added on June 19, 2007, 1:01 amOhh ya, since u sound like u r from link2u, can u pls answer me y ur N73ME came with silver color camera shutter button? Thx in advance!

This post has been edited by Ryo`: Jun 19 2007, 01:09 AM

Your question are welcomed. Thanks for voicing out your personal experience.
For your problem here. Yes i would sincerely admit that this are prone to happen because there is still a chance of a faulty product in the box containing handphones.

For your problem here, let me tell you why. Because all these are AP phone sets, so the phone are stacked up on each other in a box, and shipped here for pakaging. Believe or not, if you had connection on import export in handphone, this is the true thing that i need to tell you. The phone in the box are exposed to chances that the phone are scratched, or dented because of transportation. Imagine a box of 30 phones together, some will get defects during the whole transportation.

If that is your case that you get a badly scratched navigation button, why dont you at 1st hand call the agent who sell it to you, or call the company to inform about that?

But rather doing that, you are delaying all this things, and because of delaying, you are creating chances that we can assume that your navigation button is scratched by yourself and then claim that it is scratched when you received the phone.

For the N73 and N73ME. The housing of N73 is silver in color and N73ME is black in color. Whether the N73 is bundle up with a 2GB Mini SD, it is still a N73 and cannot be considered as N73ME because it is silver in color. N73ME is black in color and comes with a 2GB Mini SD.

But for the camera shutter button,if i am not wrong about it, both N73 and N73ME shuttter button are silver color. The difference is just in the housing which can differentiate them. I am be wrong, but i maybe right. Correct me if i am wrong with proof of the product.

Thank you

good explanation.so is there anymore argues about this??i am interested to listen more on this problem.i think this explanation cleares up the doubts here.or correct it if it is wrong??

andrewkhoo_83 last login in time is "Today 12.38AM",but wher is he/she o?y no come out comment de?his/her login in time is gan gan hao when u guys post up this,erm...tak mungkin andrewkhoo_83 juz leave the "thread" tat he/she open rite.
No offence. XD

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Added on June 19, 2007, 7:34 amanother thing,services bad doesnt mean will jual recon set gua..hehe..juz my own opinion.

This post has been edited by michaelyii1988: Jun 19 2007, 07:34 AM

oh my.... i didnt know AP sets are stacked that way! i always thought they came in separate boxes... in tat case,i'd hv to cough up extra cash on getting original 6300.. oh well

y they can sell cheaper? because they charge the member fees on the ppl who wanna take stock from them.

hmm....i wondered the same thing like you as well.so where is the fellow??i would like to know more comments about it from him.perhaps he dun hv anymore words to say.that is what i told here people.dun simply assume something which you dunno.

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Added on June 19, 2007, 11:20 amhello....even the company charge the members membership fee but the price quotation given by them to their agents is not cheap.there are other sellers who having cheaper price than them.

one example i can give you is link2u sell w810i for RM775 like that.there is one seller selling w810i=RM705.so are you still saying link2u price is the most cheapest??i can give you the seller's name if you want because i am not sure whether i can mention his name as i dun want to violates the rules here.

the point i am saying here there are other sellers selling more cheap.but is it really AP sets or maybe recon.we never know.so y jus wanna blame link2u selling cheap??y dun blame other sellers as well??think about it

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Added on June 19, 2007, 12:06 pmthat one is because their phones and cameras are imported.so it need a few days to reach here.so of course you need to wait like around 5-6 days.even after they delayed a few times finally u got the item yet.it is not like they delay and suddenly dissapear after that.the issue we talking here is about the condition of phones

This post has been edited by tajinder: Jun 19 2007, 12:06 PM

this is off-topic question, when buying hp, do we really need give deposit so the shop go buy from supplier? i afraid of con case of buying AP set but the condition not okay..

u mean u wanna buy from a shop n it ask u to pay some deposit first??i think it is con case.cz the shops is cash and carry.means you pay the full amount and take the handphone at the same time.i never heard of shops asking you to pay deposit first.

but for online business yes the dealer need deposits first to take the stocks from the supplier.it it because usually the dealer do not keep ready stocks with them to avoid losing a lot if the stocks didn't get to sell.so upon order they will take from supplier and pay the deposit.besides it is also for avoid FFK cases as there are a lot of people not serious in buying out there

If u check back my previous reply, i did stated clearly that i've withdrawn in the last minutes after i've noticed the phone's condition n the difference of package right? And sad to say, u're wrong, all n73me, no matter ap or ori should come with BLACK camera shutter but not SILVER, unless it's a n73 that has been replaced housing, google around n u will have the answer. U claim that u r a honest businessman - swap the original memory card with other brand to maximize ur profit, does it consider ethical?

Good explanation huh? Frankly speaking, I find ur reply is so so irritating, u just blindly support what Bonescythe said without further investigation to secure ur own business, does it consider ethical as well?

Good explanation? hahaah

how about the DNA 2GB mini SD card?

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Added on June 19, 2007, 1:27 pmOf course he is supporting..... after paid the money to join in as agent,

he wants back to money,,,,eheheheh...

So, he must try to save his ass.

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Added on June 19, 2007, 1:29 pmFor me, u also a newbie. Joined in 2006. Look at my date first.

Don't simply judge ppl with the date.

This post has been edited by thunderbird: Jun 19 2007, 01:30 PM

hello.....i didn't insult you or whatever.so you have no right way of saying my reply is irrirating.i just voice out my opinions.nobody ask you to agree with it.everyone have the right to voice out their opinions.what you know about ethical if you are so good in it??mind to give me a definition of it??there are other people saying things without any black and white proof.so why u didn't consider whether it is ethical as well??

Well, at 1st u say i have no right way (rights is it?) of saying ur reply is irritating, on the other hand u tell me everyone has the right to voice out their opinions, wat r u trying to say? Slapping on ur own face? If u dunno wat's the definition of ethical, simple, just google "ethical" u will have millions of definitions. If u were talking about black n white proof, i can say u oso dun hv proof to show that they r accusing u too, slapping on ur own face again?

stop using d sentence "slapping on your own face again'??u think i am what??stupid crazy person slap on my own face ar??do you have any respect for other forumers here??ya the rights of voicing out their opinions in a proper way and proper laguange.do you see me using any harsh words here?? i did say correct me if i am wrong.so use proper laguange to correct others here.the way you are saying is like you wanna slap those not agree with your opinions.well i am not the one who started complaining about link2u here.since the person started here so i think he should have some black and white proof to be show here to everyone.or else anyone could say anything without giving any proof.

those who started this topic no black n white,those who defending oso no black n white.then keep say oso no point ba.hmm..

Wow... chill man, it's just a figure of speech, pls dun get me wrong

Yes, you got the point I don't think there will be any outcome if we keep arguing like this, just want to warn all the consumers out there, be more aware when u want to purchase ap phone, double n triple check b4 u pay, this is not only apply to link2u, to other ap company as well, if u have the money, buy original

yes..so i think both company n buyer hv to know wad they hv to do lo..company dun give so-called fake or low quality products to buyers,buyers oso hv to check clearly everything n everything again b4 hand in the money,if afraid duno how check,bring along a fren too..dun afterward take the item home le or after a few days le baru find out its fake item,then will b hard for company to pay bac or wadever lah coz who noes buyer themselves do something on it leh.so...duno lah..everything muz double,triple check again de lah..lets stop saying each others lah.hehe.. PEACE..

this topic just getting ridiculous till become hot topics now.since the person started this thread dun hv black and white proof no point of arguing about anything which everyone doesn't have proof of it.so i think lets just stop discussing about this especially talking about link2u names.there are a lot of sellers out there selling underwater stocks and recons as well

Get all the black and white and bring this to the consumer tribunal. No need to argue here. PEACE

After all the arguements happening here, i would like to conclude that consumer should be aware of what he is buying always. By right, the consumer should get the product with the quality at the price he/she paid for.

If this topic is clearly for the defamation of Link2u connection, i have no point arguing and arguing over and over again, because this will lead to no end. Even there is an end, one party suffers damage, while what will the another party get?

To Ryo`,

Sorry for my misunderstanding that you had bought the phone. If you withdraw from buying, of course you can do it, with reason that the phone navigation button is scratched. But for the camera shutter. At 1st, you had mention the camera shutter button, but now you mentioned camera shutter.
I am quite confused of this, and if you want to see actual picture of the phone, you can browse for the picture at

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n73-pictures-1550.php

And what we sell is exactly what is shown there.

And for the 2GB Mini SD. This one, i would recommend that you should refer this case to the agent that sold you this. The set i sold to my customer are bundle with 2GB Mini SD with the "Nokia" print there.
And for your knowledge, i am not the director or owner of the company. So please be aware of what you speak like accusing me of swapping the memory card with a DNA brand 2GB to get more profit.

As a conclusion, consumer must becareful of what they are buying and dealing with. And for Ryo' who accused me of not being a honest businessman or seller here, would like you to apologize to me by saying that because you had say things that is just out of your mouth. If i am a cheater here, i would be selling crap and spoiled products and wouldn't be here selling again after i sold a few product.

And if i had directly or indirectly hurt someone because of my sayings, i would apologize here too.

In your service,
Daniel Lum

Pls refer to the bold sentences for my reply

This post has been edited by Ryo`: Jun 19 2007, 06:00 PM

Ok. For the 1st question.
The button to shoot/take picture. It is silver in color. This one i am sure of it, and it is not black in color. Take a browse on the link that i had provide you with.

I may sound like a director or owner of the company, but actually i am not. I am just a trainer staff there, and knows quite a lot in the phone industry.

For your walk in purchase of the N73ME, whether recommended by friends or just a normal walk in, then this is beyond my saying already. What they ( the company responsible staff at that time) do, i have no control over it. But it is still something that i need to investigate out since you voice this out. It may due to the irresposible act of some staff there. But this is just an assumption.
Yes, it is not correct to bundle up the N73ME with a DNA Mini SD 2GB. I agree that statement of yours. And for the different in box, this need to be investigate again as i would say.

Thanks for your detailed reply on the situation that you had faced. In fact, by telling out the whole situation, things are better now in a sense that the seller here from link2u connection are not to be blame, because they are also just selling. But they are to ensure that the product that they are to sell and deliver to the customer should be now and in good condition.

Please provide me with some of your details through PM. I will investigate this matter with you through PM.
Provide me the followings:
1. Approx time and date when you go to company.
2. Self walk in or refered by agents?
3. Offered to buy or already intended to buy?
4. The name/outlook of the staff that offer you the phone.
5. Your name and contact.

Thank you very much for your corporation.

If we are found wrong in this area, we will apologize here to the public.

In your service,
Daniel Lum

Refer to the bold sentences for my reply, would like to hear from you soon

This post has been edited by Ryo`: Jun 20 2007, 12:07 PM

hey guys, I am newly step into this thread. However, I'm consider myself as one of the victim in this Link2u MLM structure. I sign up as membership in Early of May 2007 for half yearly subscription of RM388 to be an agent to get the price lists from them on selling mobile phones, IT gadgets.

At first, their explanation was fantastic and show us about how good their services before sign up. After we sign up, I feel cheated and most of the time when I start t order stock then they mentioned no stock la, No longer have the product la, and many many more extra reason to reject order.

I try a few times then I fet up with their services, therefore I give up and look for my own sources of supplier. Just to share with all of you, actually when you really do homework then you can score. I wanted to share with all lyn members actually you can walk into any AP company like CSL, I-mobile and get a dealership free from them and immediate open an account and provide you with the price list. Another best thing would be, you can't even believe all the phone prices are 10-15% lower than what Link2u prices. You may be angry and feel cheated by this gang of people from link2u.

So on, I got all my stock from few AP company and the price are great and earn more compare to link2u. Another things to share, as per Daniel explanation on the packaging of AP phones, I can share my experience so far from CSL, I-mobile, Nefion all this big AP company. Their phone was perfect and you will not see a single of the set same as the N73 they sell. Most of the AP set, come differently and are not packaging together as per Daniel mentioned. I experienced most of the time when I took the phone set from AP company, they will provide you phone then collect boxes from another specific place. The AP company allowed you to check all set before you leave the place therefore shouldnt have any scratches or silver colour button like N73.

I am actually looking forward to get link2u provide me a refund on the memberships signup. May i know how many victims so far are being cheated by the gang of people in Lyn? Do you guys planning to get back a refund from them and start sourcing by your own.

Hi~ just want to share something here.... ^^

on the 23 May 2007, morning, i received a call from steve1227 saying that w810i got stock, and N73 Music Edition also got stock. So, ryo decided to purchase the phone together with the w810i that I wanted to buy for my brother. I agreed to buy and told him that I will be there to take the 2 phones at 7pm in endah parade.

at 7pm while I am on my way to endah parade after work, with ryo, I called the number that steve gave me (which I really forgotten his name and did not save his number because I did not tend to remember this issue as I am really really angry =.='') and he said tmr only got stock. I was in a heart attack status that I freaked out. Basically, it is claimed that both the agent and supplier had a misunderstanding but still it is not an efficient way to do things. I reached their office and waited for 1 hour for the w810i. While waiting, I was looking at ryo's N73 ME that he wanted to buy. To be honest, the condition of the phone really doesn't, at any way, looks new. The navigator button in the middle had scratches and the color has worn out, the box itself looks like its been used, and the content in the box, like very kosong larrr compared to the one he bought and also 1 of my fren, who is also a N73ME user.
at 850pm, I only got my w810i which is later on, I am super late for my brother's birthday dinner. *faint*

To Bonescythe,

I understand that you are working under Link2u, I will not blame you if you are siding them. But like you said, please do investigate this matter. Also, 1 thing that I am still curious and wonders about, the office is at endah parade, the store itself is at sri petaling or desa petaling cos he told me it is in sri petaling. as i know, it doesnt need to take 2 hours to take 1 stock.

He said that it need soooo many procedure just to open the store. I basically thinks that it is kinda ridiculous, its your store ma, how come no one from the office has access to it? my 2 hours means that since the time I called him and told him, he could have went off after that. To me, link2u the image is really bad already as for the service that I got, the efficiency and the communication is.....(=.='') Hope to get a reply from u soon. Thanks in advance.

Btw, steve is really a nice guy and he did his best to get me the w810i on that very date itself. I feel it really is the communication within and the efficiency of the service larr.... really hope you will investigate this matter as I do not want their company to be the word of mouth in the forum too...

2 hours to get 1 phone. Because they need to get it from another supplier mar,

of course need time. Procedure to open store? ahaha, dont know who will believe.

Even big AP company like comsat, csl do not have a store.

Does this picture help?
Source: http://www.nseries.com/index.html#l=produc...3_music,gallery

This is funny.... lolz~ FYI, there is this phrase in english (which is in proper english language and it is not a harsh word) slapping your own face / slapping our own face. Its something like peribahasa. FYI only ya... haha...

That is what he told me through the phone.... then while waiting, I asked how long more, he said that his collegue is getting it from KL. There I lagi confuse liao.... I didnt' ask more as I was too busy calming myself down that day lolz~~~

Yes, i agree with this picture.
The button is coated in black color coating for the N73ME only.
And beside that, the button got blue color light when the phone is in use.

Yes, as i had mention to all of you here.
I will surely investigate this matter till the truth of it.

By the way, please do not mistaken me as a director or owner of Link2U connection. I am just a normal unpaid staff in Link2u connection only.

I will do my best in getting a reply to all of you here. The truth shall be revealed, so that we will not be bugged of this case again and again.

For those who had help in giving out useful information in this area, a very thank you for your information. I believe with this, things and trouble will be able to come to a solution.

In your service,
Daniel Lum

All the while I've been kept on mentioning the set that I getting from Link2U is N73ME with SILVER color camera button right? So does this prove that the set that they tried to sell to me is RECON set?... Provides if they admit it's their fault la of course.

Comparison:

N73 Normal Edition:


N73 Music Edition:


One more thing, as you said you are not director or owner of Link2U connection, what if you found the staff guilty after the investigation, I wonder what action can you take as a unpaid staff, apologize on behalf?

This post has been edited by Ryo`: Jun 20 2007, 05:40 PM

unpaid staff can run an investigation in a company? Do u believe? ahahah....funny

Yes, i am an unpaid staff, or just agent.

For me to investigate about this problem, because i find that there is a problem here, and would want the truth to be known and revealed eventhough it is very indirectly related to me.

For me to ignore this and keep on living my life without all this problem and trouble, i can do so as i dont have to take care so much about this. I can still continue to be my agent and service my own customer to the best and make sure that they are satisfied.

I am a person who take ownership of what i am doing and what i am involved in. Since i am from Link2U, then i feel that i have a responsibility here to clarify things out, eventhough sometimes the truth is unpleasant to be known. But before that, i need to investigate before making a jugde on it.

To Mr "thunderbird" statement. If you feel that it is funny or whatever, mocking me of what i am doing or what so ever, i can't care much about it if you want to do so. Or you are thinking why there is such a person in the world doing somthing that wont benefit him at all, i cant care much about it too. I am just helping Ryo' out in this whole thing, and also to reveal the truth in the public. And by right,i can avoid all this though.

If it is really Link2U wrong, then it is Link2U wrong. If it is another factor, then it is that factor.

What ever, hopefully someone will believe you.

i don't really care much about it and why don't u just starting

the investigatin instead of spending time here?

And mind to tell if u just an agent, how could you investigate

it? It doesn't make any sense here. You can just question ur supplier

but not investigate, that's a huge different.

Why don't u just admit u working in Link2U? There's nothing to be shame.

This post has been edited by thunderbird: Jun 20 2007, 09:56 PM

This is a big problem if they sell u N73ME with N73 button...Most probably they reflash N73 into N73ME and change the housing...

Yes, it is in the process with Ryo' already.
And if you insist that i am working there, or i am a staff there, that you can go to the office and check whether Daniel Lum is working there or not.
I am not in shame declaring i am a Link2U agent, but i cant admit something that i am not doing, like you said that i am working for Link2U there.

I use "investigate" because the action is investigating about the problem. Or if you dont like the sound of it, then i can use "check with them", or "find out what is happening".

And why cant an agent investigate? We paid rm388/688, of course we should know what is the company doing. If the company is hiding from us, then it is not right. And if you dont trust what i do/say or whatever, and you would want to just go against everything that i say, then let it be, because i cant control you either for the mouth of yours i cant control, but only my own. Yes, it doesnt make sense to you, because you are just an outsider and dont even know how our company structure is, but you are just acting like a pro saying everything that comes out from your mouth. Maybe worse to worse, i can just ignore what you are saying. But i will surely want to know Ryo's case.

I am straight forward and direct. Maybe i will hurt you by saying this. Would hereby apologize to you too if i do.

If u just an agent, u still an "outsider" also, not much different.

I don't have interest to know where are you working because non

of my business.

This is a community forum, i have the right to speak out from my mouth,

so what?

Hello, just now u said u just an agent, now using the word "our" company,

if you just an agent, that's NOT your company, you are just an agent.



An agent can run an investigation? altough u paid an amount to join, but,

so what?? Have u ever heard people who joined those direct sales company

able to investigate the company? You make me laugh again.

Brother, i did say i take ownership of what i am doing.
Yes,i am an agent. And Link2u is a company, and i would want to consider it as my company also can, because i paid for it.
Do you know that when you do something and treated it like yours, you will give 110% to it. But if you are just going along, your effort is just 50-60%, and will die off.

And yes, that is your mouth. So i cant do anything of what your mouth wishes to do.

And as for that "investigation". Nothing can defeat a man's will when he is determined to do it and achieve it. Havent you see people that are limped or born imperfect can become a successful being in the world?

And as for the conversation between you and me, i find that talking with you will surfacely seems interesting, but what you are talking about are just mockings, and negative talks. Contentless from top to the bottom. Rather than seeking a solution, giving out supports, you are emphasizing on mocking people.

hey people.... chill la..... seriously if this goes on, there wont be any solutions out of it rather than just plain arguements that has no conclusion.

to thunderbird,
I believe you are kinda angry and feeling unpleasant after all the cases that had mention earlier here. but you have your rights and he has his right to do whatever both of u wishes rite?? after all, no one can control both of u ma... so let him be if he wants to investigate/find out/etc cos at the end of the day, he gets nothing but the truth about the company that he is paying. no offence larr... but really... chill la bro....come lets hug! haha!

to Bonescythe,
It is great to have someone like you who give the client the best service, a perfect phone and etc. but both me and ryo' are kinda unlucky larr. that is why we need your help (that is if you are willing to do it) to find out why does link2u do this and what is the purpose. honestly speaking, link2u's name is all over the forum. it is abit unpleasant too for ppl to misjudge u as the "owner/director/etc" larr cos i am sure this will affect ur sales too...i am glad that you are willling to help out as you are aware that it has no benefit to you, but at the very least, you get to know the real truth about link2u. isnt it a benefit too? =) I hope that you will find the answer to this matter and foresee it asap. good luck~

btw, ryo' did mention alot of times that he wanted to purchase the N73ME many times... or isit just a misunderstanding from you earlier on? =)

This post has been edited by bB_BerNi: Jun 21 2007, 05:21 PM

Hi there ~ i am steve1227 who dealt with berni for the w810i white and ryo who almost bought the N73 me ...once again i apologize for the mess i caused but it is really a misunderstanding btw me and the staff there, when i heard they didnt place order for you, i as well nearly got a heart attack.

I have not running this business for sometime for quite awhile for some reasons, and didnt check my thread until just now i saw my thread and there is a guy call thunderbird left a msg on my thread, say i pretend innocent cause of copying fruities thread (Honestly i didnt copy , anyhow its not important anymore), then i started to check his post history ( feel like he is very proud of himself of being a senior forumer and keep comment on ppl post,very funny), interestingly i found a post call Link2u and i am linked to here.

Ryo, must say sorry to you 1st as i myself not at the scene and i didnt even know hows the product, its my fault and if i knew that i wont reserved it. U know i sold N73 me b4 and it has no problem ( those are not reserved 1, and not cheaper 1). For your issue i have some similar taughts like you but i didnt insist and breaking the walls to get explaination from company cos my fren is 1 of the shareholder. I am really not sure its a recon set or not (till now), but its quite funny when they answer u they deal with DNA,did they really told u like this?

p/s : I think you/berni mistaken another person as me ...i nvr go office deal with ppl.

Well, just to share something to u guys tat the main reason i retreat from selling hp is mainly due to my day job. And another quite important reason is the service and efficency of office, especially after berni's incident ( i actually stop running bizness 1 week after the incident),i have lost confidence because quite a couple of time i promised to get the stock on certain day then i arrange deal with customer but eventually i end up breaking promise. I understand they also face problem but its quite distracting to me as i am breaking my reputation lo.

p/s : Berni sorry again as i had really do my best to get u the phone, i dont know the detail thing that happens btw u and the staff tat day but sorry for the mess.

And finally the reason i gav up is the margin is not very very nice and there are a lot of others agent started to sell here already. Somemore they promised us to free deliver the stocks to us at 1st but after tat change policy will have charges if 1 delivery, otherwise need to take stock directly at office.With all the reasons stated,i decided to stop lo.

Not supporting my fren but the goods from L2u basically have a competative price and they selling new set lo... But when come to bizness i think they are not up to standard as the company don have a proper system so far as they are new. Just my 2 cents to other L2u agents here, think before there are some special sets or shipment sets tat require waiting days la..cause the stock always delay 1 and u have no stock to give customer, and inspect the goods before give customer la,don like me lo ( i dont noe hows the company do now la, i just share my experience).

And finally thanks for Berni saying i am a nice person, i am happy le .. . Ryo bro glad tat u voice it out la ... else i also don think so much things ( actually i didnt even think it might be a recon set, i just tot it was a spoilt goods case)

REgards

Steve

No worry, I know you weren't there, and yes, one of the staff there really answered me that way.

And thanks to Bonescythe, the investigation is in the process already.

This post has been edited by Ryo`: Jun 21 2007, 09:34 PM

Hi Steve,

It is not your fault as you are only an agent/dealer, not supplier. What I am refering to is when I was there to collect the item. I was refering to the staff thr.. I know you tried but now its your supplier who cant fulfill it, not you. but this oso reflect to you as you are dealing under Link2U. No worries larr... ald past so long, what for I want to keep it in heart. =) dont blame yourself... =)

I hope bone get some info le... like no reply from him liao tim...

Ok, I've been patient enough to wait for your answer,
I choose to disclose the conversation

good info, must be careful next time

Thanks for Ryo sharing such useful info to us...

Hey lyn members,

Any of you sign up for the link2u connection membership for half yearly RM388 & 1 year for RM688? Please take note that do not sign up. I have been cheated by the following guys:

Daniel Lum - lyn Id (Bonescythe)
Alex Loke
Leon Sim
Lim Chun Wing

Their Office located at Sri Petaling Carrefour, I have been sign up for the membership of RM388. They mentioned, they are the main distributor for laptop, mobile phone, digital camera, and etc. I believe quite a numbers of lyn member also sign up for the memberships.

My experience was happened on May 2007, I sign up for the membership and they mentioned I can used their so call e-commerce website to access for price lists and ordering. www.link2uconnection.com. However, all the while I been trying to access the account for ordering and pricelists. There was always message prompt out that not avaiable or still underconstruction.

Therefore, I complaint to everybody mentioned above. Everytime when I complaint then they also mentioned that the website is under maintenance or suspended due to virus all these nonesence. Te worst part is further July2007 I called again to request for a refund on the membership since I do not use it at all and I do not mind the panalty. I contacted Daniel Lum the one wo brought me in for membership and also Alex Loke. They both mentioned that they have left the company and no longer incharged of the business. However, you may also see that Daniel Lum is still replying on behalf of Link2u in the thread.

Recently I called again and spoke to all of them and they all mentioned that all no longer in the business and been take over by another uncle(so call) and ask me to call him to get refund. Until now I do not have anything refund from them yet and all are ignoring my call and I will get this case to be complaint to Jabatan Pengguna and make a police report and provide all their names together with all the evidence and documents to the police for further investigation.

Dear Lyn members,

If you are also have this experience may need to further complaint please kindly PM me or post here. We can complaint and submit all the document to police for our refund. Thanks

I copy pasted this from their website ....
Seen like this company is all bullshit....

SOME FORUMER SAY THEY WAS INFORMED THE COMPANY IS SPECIALIST IN LAPPY, HANDPHONE AND GAMING PRODUCT ...

BUT I CAN SEE NOW MANY CHEATER IS SELLING CAMERA IN THE CAMERA SECTION ... SO PLEASE BECAREFUL....



TERM AND CONDITION THEY POSTED TO JOIN THE COMPANY.....



Posted SS as prove....

This post has been edited by denver1347: Sep 16 2007, 10:30 PM